I am worried about the situation in the country too. I see everything falling apart in the future, and it doesn't seem like it will be long.

Guns? So #ing what... Like guns will do any of us good. They've got biological weapons, and nukes. Do you really think we could fight effectively? If a small amount of people have nukes, they could wipe the population out. Guns are out of date.

I am from Europe (Holland) so I view what is going on in the US from a distance. What I see is that many americans are complaining about the corruptcy of your government and that they think nothing will be left of their once 'land of the free and opportunity for all'. Instead of talking about the american dream it has become the american nightmare.

These complains are not from yesterday but from more than 10 years ago. And the american citizens are right...their country is being invested by a decease that will continue to break down the health of american society and economic structure until there is nothing left. This decease got a firm grip in the american body after taking out the last border of significant defence...JFK.

From that time on this 'virus' has tightly sealed off the way to the top of the american government. Nobody will get there unless being no treat and a promising contribution for spreading the decease further. Now I hear more and more talk about civilwar and unlawful resistance when unpoppular legislation is to be laid upon the citizens of the USA. Stuff like this indentification chip, gun control, ect. Moving house to an other country is not the solution.

To save the US from people who think they are 'ubermenschen' is a big problem because it seems that they cannot be touched. You, the people of the US, decide who is SERVING you in the whitehouse. Well I know that it is easy said for me from the other side of the ocean and that it is not easily done to round up the ones responisible for the mess they have made of the US but i guess nobody wants to wait untill the entire country is plundered and brought to civilwar.

Something needs to be done to bring the USA back to the worldly respected and healthy nation it, not so long ago, was. Here in The Netherlands we can also feel the same 'virus' grow. It is working very subtile, forcing the euro upon us was a public, in the open display of these dark forces at work. Ofcourse it will bring economic wealth, but not for the hard working family Doe.

We also pay taxes and some people pay close to 40% of their income on taxes. And it is so strange that the taxes increase, the salaries do not that much. Where is all this money going? To make it possible that my children can go to school? To maintain and built civilstructures like roads and such...no.. we pay specified taxes fot that. A few years ago our government also sold some of the gold backup for our money, they said we had to much of it and that we shouldn't worry. I belief that this was short before we got the euro.

The countries who are member of the EEG are up for the same scam that was introduced to the US. Anyways,..i wanted to make it short...but hey...What I wanted to say is that we cannot flee to an other country and give them what they want. It will never be enough for them and in the end there will be no country left to go to. This decease is a worldwide problem and to get it out of our system we need to investigate with honnest people and give those who feel better than the rest what they deserve.

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When the world is going down ( which is gonna be very soon ) there will be no place to hide. The US country and people are just the most favourable for mind/control that's why the elite is very active in the USA.

[edit on 18-1-2008 by Paul the seeker]

Nice necroposting

But funny it that the thread is from 2004. A lot happend between 2004 and today. But its not getting better. Every day we getting deeper and deeper and soon we loosing it all. Freedom and soverinity.

We have already decided to move out of the USA in 2010. That way we will be close to my mother in law. But also I believe its safer then being here. We have a Nueclear plant less then 40 miles from here. I also noticed something strange going on the other day they were putting up new air raid Sirens around the area. Should we be worried? Yeah we sure should be.

Hilda

Originally posted by DeusEx
Come to Canada... it's nice and polite. At any rate, I could use some company. *grumbles*

Yeah, basically, if anyone wants to visit and test the waters up here, I'm more than happy to meet up with you and show you around. I'll be back down near Toronto by May first, so...ya'll know where to find me. I agree, by the way- things are rapidly spinning out of control, and the US has a big target painted all over it.

DE

I might actually take you up on that offer some day in the future. I've always wanted to visit Quebec when I was learning french in high school. Although I doubt it would do any good since the NWO is basically planning on taking the U.S., Mexico AND Canada. So even there we won't really be safe.

I know the perfect place to go. The Phillipine Islands. Oh, better yet, why not Thailand? Ah, no, I'm sure you'd like to live in a great place like Cambodia. Wait! I got it! You're going to go live in Burma! Because their government is WAY better than our oppresive dictatorship.

In my opinion, if you turn your back on this country, you may as well not even be an american.

May as well move to China, because you're a communist.

Okay that last part was a bad joke, but seriously, do you think that America is the only country that has problems? After seeing what other countries in this world goes through with their governments, our countrys government is f'ing gold! You have no clue! Unless, you've seen first hand, like I have, what these other countries go through, then fine, leave this country. But you're still a traitor.

patriotism for any race or country for that matter is subjective.

The reality is, you are a soul and none of you really are "american citizens"

Your on this planet alive for a blink of an eye than your body dies and then it cares not about being american...

...you then discover that your actually an infitie eternal citizen of infinity.

All of this fighting and revolution will never work versus a global communistic corporate fascism thats comming soon called the NWO.

AM I willing to die for this country??? NO WAY JOSE. Not because I'm Not Patriotic, I was born in the the US but it matters not where I will die.

I'm not willing to die for this country because its not my country. I dont own it and never have. I'm just passin through. I could have been born in russia, japan, south america.....its all irrelevant.

WE ARE GLOBAL CITIZENS. There's no difference between an American Citizen and a Japanese Communist Citizen. Both bleed red blood when you cut em, both will one day die whether war or natural causes, and both have a soul.

While I'm completely gainst any unions, nwo's, global fadcist corporate pigs, I'm aslo against this "seperatism" that is the reason for all the wars, murders, hatred, rapes, pillaging, atomic bombs, and innocent deaths that have taken place since the beginning of the world.

Until there's Divine intervention and a theocracy in place, there will never be hope for peace on this planet. Seperatism and Ego is the reason why are in the position we are in today and is the ingredians that lead to the NWO.

I too plan on leaving this country to somewhere safer, where not everyone is sleepwalking with their violent movies, selfishness, greed, brain-washing, and picking an idiot to be in office. And thats many of you on this site who im sure voted for Bush twice. I have no respect for any Bush voters what so ever.

This country (U.S.) is SCREWED !!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Ambient Sound
Guess you are off to Canada then. Take some warm clothes...

Canada and Mexico are to be part of the NAU, that won't help.

You will need to be out of all of the Americas by my reckoning to
be 100% clear of what is planned long term.

I'd say some of the southern pacific islands that are not inhabited,
or some of the uninhabited islands in the Bahamas if you can make
a VERY strong hurricane proof shelter at least 30 feet above sea level.

There are thousands of islands in the Bahamas, learn the laws though.

They plan to plunder the resources of Africa, so do not go there.

Some of the canary islands might be good if you keep an eye out
for the Cumbre Veija sliding into the sea making a giant Tsunami.

In the rest of the Caribbean I'd steer clear as outsiders are only tolerated
as they have money.