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A strange spraying cylinder UFO


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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 03:37 PM by eniac


i'd guess its a missile. Either a test or...
Hard to know the location of this event.



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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 03:37 PM by Blaine91555


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That is most certainly a Cruise Missile. Don't ya think?



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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 04:15 PM by Chadwickus


Missiles don't usually fly near population, unless it's during combat.
So the next logical thought would be a test of some sort.

So we gotta ask a few questions:
What sort of missiles does Italy have?
Were there any tests that day?
Why was it so close to population?


Could it be one of these?
The Otomat


The Otomat is a long range anti-ship missile capable of reaching around 180 km at an average speed of 1,000-1,100km/h. It is stored and launched in a fiberglass box which weights 1,610 kg fully loaded. This container has a rectangular shape to accommodate the fixed wings of the missile and an inclination of 15 degrees. At launch, the boosters propel the missile up to a height of 200 m before the main engine starts and a descent to 20 m is made. Otomat Mk2 missiles have a data-link for mid-course updates. They are designed to strike their targets in a 180 m dive or in a sea-skimming mode at an altitude of 2 m with a 210 kg warhead capable piercing up to 80 mm of steel. The warhead is designed to explode inside the ship with the force of the explosion directed to the bottom of the target ship.

Technical data are[4]: 4.46 m length, 40 cm diameter, 1.35 wingspan, 770 kg launch weight.

Source: en.wikipedia.org...



The other two questions I'm not sure if we'll find an answer.



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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 04:17 PM by internos


Originally posted by Nola213
Internos video is cool but since there;s no trail and it's spae is like =|=
it reminds me of a satellite. Possibly it was shot through a telescope?


Hi Nola213: almost certainly that wasn't filmed thought a telescope, but i'll try to get in touch with the guy who filmed it (imshrike, a fellow member, can contact him) in order to ask for more details. This is its description:

This strange unidentified flying object was filmed on September 29th, 2006 at 20:09 (flying in direction south-west / north east), after a massive campaign by military planes. The object, consisting of two sections and with some kind of rudder on its top edge, seemed to emit some light (not reflected from the sun) as the unusual glow was obvious even when the object side was oriented toward East (side opposite the sun).

straker-61.blogspot.com...




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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 04:21 PM by JH80



However to me it just looks like a plane and the dent in the middle is the wing viewed head on and slightly below.



That's right! Being an avid sky watcher, I can confirm that this so-called "cylinder UFO" is just a standard airplane.

Here's one of my own photographs compared to the "UFO". The brightness of the plane's hull pushed my camera and its lens to the limit. Observe how the wings have seemingly dissapeared, how the glare makes the plane appear larger than it actually is, and finally, the red lens flare.



Finally, here is a picture of what 'Prophet Yahweh' claims is a "cigar shaped UFO". Pretty similar, eh?




The object, consisting of two sections and with some kind of rudder on its top edge, seemed to emit some light (not reflected from the sun) as the unusual glow was obvious even when the object side was oriented toward East (side opposite the sun).



If an object is high enough, will it not reflect the sun at almost any angle/direction?

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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 06:59 PM by snowen20


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Thank you for making my point.
Most likely explanation is indeed an aircraft. Good photo I was tired of waiting for the plane.



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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 09:00 PM by Anonymous ATS


This a recon missile. Latest in military intel tools. This flys through the area taking images of the surrounding area. The split part is actually the end of the missile and the flames.. the flames are blue... tried to google some information but didnt find anything online... however, 2 years ago this topic was brought up... looks like this is the testing faze..



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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 09:35 PM by riotact1


after further thought...my observation was not correct.
edit to remove comment

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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 10:37 PM by MoothyKnight


The video is pretty cool, it could possibly be a prototype drone or missile but distorted by heat or light, who knows. A+ vid though

Or it could be a plane like the one 3 posts up



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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 11:22 PM by AceWombat04


Could it be some sort of satellite launch or other space program launch (or test)? It's reminiscent of a two stage rocket of some kind in my mind. At one point it almost looks like there's some sort of a booster attached as well.



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reply posted on 23-11-2008 @ 12:28 AM by Anonymous ATS


It looks like a cruise missle. look on youtube.



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reply posted on 23-11-2008 @ 12:45 AM by internos


The video that is being compared with a plane, is NOT the one of the OP.
THIS is the one of the OP

YouTube Link


Regarding the comparisons with this video, that is NOT the one of the OP

YouTube Link

could please someone to outline the wings, the tip, the tail, the contrails in some screenshot of the video? I don't see anything like that, and actually the comparison that i see some posts above seems to confirm that the object was NOT a plane, unless i'm missing something: in the photo of the plane i see all: wings, rudder, contrail etcetera, in the screen-capture from the video i don't se anything of that: am i the only one?
The closest airport, (Nice), is 43 miles far away, and even if that would explain the take off, where was it supposed to LAND? It draws a parabol, its path is firstly ascending, then horizontal, then descending (unless it was used some camera angulation trick, which can't be ruled out due to lack of points of reference) but that wouldn't explain the shape, anyway):


and anyway before calling it plane i would like to see... the plane, with its wings, its rudder and all the rest: ah, and some valid explanation about the total absence of contrails, of course. Alternatively, i would like to see some shot of a plane that looks like that, and i havent seen one so far.

The problems with this video are other ones, IMHO:
  • first, the object looks to be unvisible to the naked eye, so i wonder ho the cameraman has been able to spot it before zooming (and it's obvious that he did zoom KNOWING where the object was)
  • second, the video ends in the most interesting part with no apparent reason, so it doesn't show neither where nor how it landed/crashed:
    and these are both red flags, IMHO.

    I don't think that some RC stuff can be ruled out, including some nice toy, but also military activities are continuosly reported from the area, including planes with no insignas, so who really knows? I believe it to be man made, but i could be wrong.
    Just my 2 cents


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    reply posted on 23-11-2008 @ 12:48 AM by space cadet


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    Wow. This is exactly like what we keep seeing here, in the early morning just at sunrise. Over and over my hubby and I have seen this thing taking different paths, it looks just like the one posted here. Thanks for the post!



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    reply posted on 23-11-2008 @ 01:48 AM by longfade


    Originally posted by JH80

    However to me it just looks like a plane and the dent in the middle is the wing viewed head on and slightly below.



    That's right! Being an avid sky watcher, I can confirm that this so-called "cylinder UFO" is just a standard airplane.

    Here's one of my own photographs compared to the "UFO". The brightness of the plane's hull pushed my camera and its lens to the limit. Observe how the wings have seemingly dissapeared, how the glare makes the plane appear larger than it actually is, and finally, the red lens flare.



    Finally, here is a picture of what 'Prophet Yahweh' claims is a "cigar shaped UFO". Pretty similar, eh?




    The object, consisting of two sections and with some kind of rudder on its top edge, seemed to emit some light (not reflected from the sun) as the unusual glow was obvious even when the object side was oriented toward East (side opposite the sun).



    If an object is high enough, will it not reflect the sun at almost any angle/direction?

    [edit on 22-11-2008 by JH80]


    Slow down there......You can "confirm" that this is an airplane? Your photo, although a bit obscure, clearly has photographic outlines of the the wing and tail of the aircraft. This video shows a streak of light that is not (in my opinion) suggestive of anything extra-terrestrial, but it is not suggestive of an airplane either. If it IS an airplane, then it has no running lights, no wings or a tail, and has a fuselage that is uniformly lit from front to back. If the glow of the fuselage were due to the sun reflecting, it seems like there would be some suggestion of wings and a tail, given that the camera was tracking this thing for around 2 minutes. I don't consider this a very interesting sighting, but it does not look like a plane to me.



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    reply posted on 23-11-2008 @ 02:05 AM by snowen20


    Somewhere there is a pilot laughing at everyone who thinks this is anything but an airplane.

    Border line rediculous, but whatever just enjoy.



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    reply posted on 23-11-2008 @ 02:17 AM by NuclearPaul


    Originally posted by Quazze
    In relation to the object in the sky ... well ... when did UFO's start running on diesel fuel? The long streak of combustion is certainly not a Green effort on their part.


    Maybe the elite have found a more efficient way to spray us.



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    reply posted on 23-11-2008 @ 03:09 AM by C0bzz


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    In my opinion, both videos are caused by normal airliners, at relatively high altitude and from a distance. The sunlight reflects off the white fuselage, causing the grey wings to be washed out. The grey wings, themselves, are difficult to spot as they blend into the sky very well - this is why military aircraft are usually grey. The same may of happened with the tail of the aircraft, too.

    That being said, the trail in the first video looks very strange, and very unlike a contrail - they usually form about one plane length behind the plane. The second one appears like it may be climbing then decending like an arch, as you said, but it might just be an illusion. The plane could of been turning right? Still, it is strange.

    Great finds, keep on filming the skies!

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    reply posted on 23-11-2008 @ 03:35 AM by internos


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    Now THESE are explanations that make sense
    I've also mentioned in my previous post that it may be a trick of the cameraman: the absence of grounded points of reference impeed any possible assesment so the camera could have rotated in order to get the parabol trajectory effect. And regarding the appearance, and the apparently missing parts, it all makes sense as well: there has been the case of the "missile" allegedly spotted in Flight Over Utah that turned out to be jet airliner with dark colored wings.

    Besides, as said many military activities in the are continuosly being reported.



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    reply posted on 23-11-2008 @ 04:34 AM by Unubuh


    could be a UAV! But i think it has somethig scientific about it! Possibly chemtrail device. But i don't know!

    Deffinately nothing from outer space!



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    reply posted on 23-11-2008 @ 05:10 AM by Nola213


    thanks for the reply internos. Now that you say it was almost def. NOT shot through a scope, I gotta take your word on that. As you have the ey for these things.

    However after looking at the stills of the same craft from the video, have you ruled out the possiblity of it being an antique propellar driven plane, shot from the underside? Think Red-Baron , but maybe not a bi, or tri wing, just a single wing(did they even make those?) hehe I'm not an aviator buff,although I do build models, but I'm only familiar with the dozen or so I've built, A-10 Warthogs (most beautiful plane ever made), f-15 Tomcats (which were built at grumman, a stones throw from where I grew up in LI, NY),F-16's, F-18's, ect.

    I see you mention the possibility of an RC plane. That's also a good guess.

    As for the Original Video.....in the topic:

    I would find it ALOT more interesting if it wasn't leaving a half mile long contrail. I mean, are aliens going back to diesel? (as one member posted?)
    Looks like some sort of missile, and with the number of types out there...., gonna be tough to pin down without clearer pictures.

    Thanks again for replying.

    [edit on 23-11-2008 by Nola213]



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