A strange spraying cylinder UFO , page 2

reply to post by FIFIGI

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That is most certainly a Cruise Missile. Don't ya think?

Missiles don't usually fly near population, unless it's during combat.
So the next logical thought would be a test of some sort.

So we gotta ask a few questions:
What sort of missiles does Italy have?
Were there any tests that day?
Why was it so close to population?


Could it be one of these?
The Otomat

The Otomat is a long range anti-ship missile capable of reaching around 180 km at an average speed of 1,000-1,100km/h. It is stored and launched in a fiberglass box which weights 1,610 kg fully loaded. This container has a rectangular shape to accommodate the fixed wings of the missile and an inclination of 15 degrees. At launch, the boosters propel the missile up to a height of 200 m before the main engine starts and a descent to 20 m is made. Otomat Mk2 missiles have a data-link for mid-course updates. They are designed to strike their targets in a 180 m dive or in a sea-skimming mode at an altitude of 2 m with a 210 kg warhead capable piercing up to 80 mm of steel. The warhead is designed to explode inside the ship with the force of the explosion directed to the bottom of the target ship.

Technical data are[4]: 4.46 m length, 40 cm diameter, 1.35 wingspan, 770 kg launch weight.

Source: en.wikipedia.org...



The other two questions I'm not sure if we'll find an answer.

Originally posted by Nola213
Internos video is cool but since there;s no trail and it's spae is like =|=
it reminds me of a satellite. Possibly it was shot through a telescope?

Hi Nola213: almost certainly that wasn't filmed thought a telescope, but i'll try to get in touch with the guy who filmed it (imshrike, a fellow member, can contact him) in order to ask for more details. This is its description:

This strange unidentified flying object was filmed on September 29th, 2006 at 20:09 (flying in direction south-west / north east), after a massive campaign by military planes. The object, consisting of two sections and with some kind of rudder on its top edge, seemed to emit some light (not reflected from the sun) as the unusual glow was obvious even when the object side was oriented toward East (side opposite the sun).

straker-61.blogspot.com...

However to me it just looks like a plane and the dent in the middle is the wing viewed head on and slightly below.

That's right! Being an avid sky watcher, I can confirm that this so-called "cylinder UFO" is just a standard airplane.

Here's one of my own photographs compared to the "UFO". The brightness of the plane's hull pushed my camera and its lens to the limit. Observe how the wings have seemingly dissapeared, how the glare makes the plane appear larger than it actually is, and finally, the red lens flare.

Finally, here is a picture of what 'Prophet Yahweh' claims is a "cigar shaped UFO". Pretty similar, eh?

The object, consisting of two sections and with some kind of rudder on its top edge, seemed to emit some light (not reflected from the sun) as the unusual glow was obvious even when the object side was oriented toward East (side opposite the sun).

If an object is high enough, will it not reflect the sun at almost any angle/direction?

[edit on 22-11-2008 by JH80]

reply to post by JH80

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Thank you for making my point.
Most likely explanation is indeed an aircraft. Good photo I was tired of waiting for the plane.

The video that is being compared with a plane, is NOT the one of the OP.
THIS is the one of the OP


Regarding the comparisons with this video, that is NOT the one of the OP

could please someone to outline the wings, the tip, the tail, the contrails in some screenshot of the video? I don't see anything like that, and actually the comparison that i see some posts above seems to confirm that the object was NOT a plane, unless i'm missing something: in the photo of the plane i see all: wings, rudder, contrail etcetera, in the screen-capture from the video i don't se anything of that: am i the only one?
The closest airport, (Nice), is 43 miles far away, and even if that would explain the take off, where was it supposed to LAND? It draws a parabol, its path is firstly ascending, then horizontal, then descending (unless it was used some camera angulation trick, which can't be ruled out due to lack of points of reference) but that wouldn't explain the shape, anyway):


and anyway before calling it plane i would like to see... the plane, with its wings, its rudder and all the rest: ah, and some valid explanation about the total absence of contrails, of course. Alternatively, i would like to see some shot of a plane that looks like that, and i havent seen one so far.

The problems with this video are other ones, IMHO:

first, the object looks to be unvisible to the naked eye, so i wonder ho the cameraman has been able to spot it before zooming (and it's obvious that he did zoom KNOWING where the object was)

second, the video ends in the most interesting part with no apparent reason, so it doesn't show neither where nor how it landed/crashed:
and these are both red flags, IMHO.

I don't think that some RC stuff can be ruled out, including some nice toy, but also military activities are continuosly reported from the area, including planes with no insignas, so who really knows? I believe it to be man made, but i could be wrong.
Just my 2 cents


[edit on 23/11/2008 by internos]

reply to post by Alles

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Wow. This is exactly like what we keep seeing here, in the early morning just at sunrise. Over and over my hubby and I have seen this thing taking different paths, it looks just like the one posted here. Thanks for the post!

Originally posted by JH80

However to me it just looks like a plane and the dent in the middle is the wing viewed head on and slightly below.

That's right! Being an avid sky watcher, I can confirm that this so-called "cylinder UFO" is just a standard airplane.

Here's one of my own photographs compared to the "UFO". The brightness of the plane's hull pushed my camera and its lens to the limit. Observe how the wings have seemingly dissapeared, how the glare makes the plane appear larger than it actually is, and finally, the red lens flare.

Finally, here is a picture of what 'Prophet Yahweh' claims is a "cigar shaped UFO". Pretty similar, eh?

The object, consisting of two sections and with some kind of rudder on its top edge, seemed to emit some light (not reflected from the sun) as the unusual glow was obvious even when the object side was oriented toward East (side opposite the sun).

If an object is high enough, will it not reflect the sun at almost any angle/direction?

[edit on 22-11-2008 by JH80]

Slow down there......You can "confirm" that this is an airplane? Your photo, although a bit obscure, clearly has photographic outlines of the the wing and tail of the aircraft. This video shows a streak of light that is not (in my opinion) suggestive of anything extra-terrestrial, but it is not suggestive of an airplane either. If it IS an airplane, then it has no running lights, no wings or a tail, and has a fuselage that is uniformly lit from front to back. If the glow of the fuselage were due to the sun reflecting, it seems like there would be some suggestion of wings and a tail, given that the camera was tracking this thing for around 2 minutes. I don't consider this a very interesting sighting, but it does not look like a plane to me.

reply to post by internos

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In my opinion, both videos are caused by normal airliners, at relatively high altitude and from a distance. The sunlight reflects off the white fuselage, causing the grey wings to be washed out. The grey wings, themselves, are difficult to spot as they blend into the sky very well - this is why military aircraft are usually grey. The same may of happened with the tail of the aircraft, too.

That being said, the trail in the first video looks very strange, and very unlike a contrail - they usually form about one plane length behind the plane. The second one appears like it may be climbing then decending like an arch, as you said, but it might just be an illusion. The plane could of been turning right? Still, it is strange.

Great finds, keep on filming the skies!

[edit on 23/11/2008 by C0bzz]

reply to post by C0bzz

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Now THESE are explanations that make sense
I've also mentioned in my previous post that it may be a trick of the cameraman: the absence of grounded points of reference impeed any possible assesment so the camera could have rotated in order to get the parabol trajectory effect. And regarding the appearance, and the apparently missing parts, it all makes sense as well: there has been the case of the "missile" allegedly spotted in Flight Over Utah that turned out to be jet airliner with dark colored wings.

Besides, as said many military activities in the are continuosly being reported.

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