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reply posted on 24-11-2008 @ 10:43 AM by paxnatus

This is ridiculous and laughable!

How peoples OPINION passes as FACT is beyond me! Just like "something else", everyone has one!!

Why do you people continue to fantasize about the past! Move on!! It's time for "CHANGE" Good thing a nice "brown shirt" goes with everything!

When they cart him off in shackles I will believe it!
Until then

DENY IGNORANCE!!

reply posted on 24-11-2008 @ 11:01 AM by jibeho

reply to post by paxnatus

Well said. The delusional witch hunters have to grasp at something between now and January. Reality will hit after the inauguration and all bets will be off.

If you really want to go after the political criminals may I suggest that you start with: Chavez, Castro, ahmadinejad, Kim Jong-Il and you might as well turn Africa upside down and shake the thugs out. Need I go on?

To blame one man for the problems of the world is the ultimate act of stupidity and utter ignorance of the facts of politics. Look around. Read a newspaper. Read about the UN and NATO. I am certainly not one of Bush's bigggestt fans but, I can at least get in touch with reality.

People blame one man because they are told to do so. They blame one man because it is cool. They blame one man because they fear reality.

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reply posted on 24-11-2008 @ 11:08 AM by mind is the universe

Originally posted by jibeho
reply to post by paxnatus

If you really want to go after the political criminals may I suggest that you start with: Chavez, Castro, ahmadinejad, Kim Jong-Il and you might as well turn Africa upside down and shake the thugs out. Need I go on?

Em, what about a real criminal such as Bush? No, your post is most hypocritical and ignorant.

There is nothing wrong with admadinegad either.

Most of the African leaders, are given arms by the American's
God your post is oozing with ignorance...........

reply posted on 24-11-2008 @ 11:13 AM by jibeho

Originally posted by mind is the universe

Originally posted by jibeho
reply to post by paxnatus

If you really want to go after the political criminals may I suggest that you start with: Chavez, Castro, ahmadinejad, Kim Jong-Il and you might as well turn Africa upside down and shake the thugs out. Need I go on?

Em, what about a real criminal such as Bush? No, your post is most hypocritical and ignorant.

There is nothing wrong with admadinegad either.

Most of the African leaders, are given arms by the American's
God your post is oozing with ignorance...........

How can you blame one person for the problems of the world? Please explain you delusions in detail? Better yet, leave the safety of Ireland and move to Iran. I am sure you will love it.

reply posted on 24-11-2008 @ 11:23 AM by mind is the universe

Originally posted by jibeho

Originally posted by mind is the universe

Originally posted by jibeho
reply to post by paxnatus

If you really want to go after the political criminals may I suggest that you start with: Chavez, Castro, ahmadinejad, Kim Jong-Il and you might as well turn Africa upside down and shake the thugs out. Need I go on?

Em, what about a real criminal such as Bush? No, your post is most hypocritical and ignorant.

There is nothing wrong with admadinegad either.

Most of the African leaders, are given arms by the American's
God your post is oozing with ignorance...........

How can you blame one person for the problems of the world? Please explain you delusions in detail? Better yet, leave the safety of Ireland and move to Iran. I am sure you will love it.

I'm not blaming everything on Bush, You pointed out war criminals, but forgot to mention Bush.

That's all I wanted to point out

Maybe America should solve it's own problem's first before it meddles with other nations problem's AGAIN. Your opionions are inane. America has alot of problem's stop worrying about other countries please

Tell me what's wrong with Iran? Irish people have a little more sense, not to believe everything they hear on the news jibehol! ffs. We are not afraid of Iran or paranoid about the world like some few ignorant American's are.

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reply posted on 24-11-2008 @ 11:34 AM by ravenflt

reply to post by jam321

It does not matter if you agree with the war crimes charge or not, the fact remains that Bush pardoned himself for warcrimes, so he has acknowledged that he is a warcriminal whether you like it or not.

reply posted on 24-11-2008 @ 11:39 AM by dariousg

Originally posted by Irish Matador
He certainly has played a major part in the problems facing the world
The sooner Bush and his NWO greedy selfish members are out then we all might have some chance of organising a recovery.

Although I do believe that Bush (and company) have had a HUGE impact on why we are where we are today, I simply must ask you: Do you believe that the NWO and their greedy selfish members will be removed when Bush leaves? I mean, seriously, even though I want to give Obama the benefit of the doubt, there just seems to be too much financial 'influence' from the wealthy. We'll see.

reply posted on 24-11-2008 @ 11:40 AM by jibeho

reply to post by mind is the universe

Here is an Iranian example for you

Iranian students say there is a second cultural revolution under way in the universities with scores of professors forcibly retired and politically active students being threatened with expulsion.

news.bbc.co.uk...

from same source sound familiar

Student anger exploded with an unprecedented show of defiance when President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad went to Tehran's Amir Kabir University on 12 December. Pictures shot on a mobile phone showed angry students chanting against the president, accusing him of being a fascist and a puppet of the hardliners. They held portraits of Mr Ahmadinejad upside down to mock him and then set them on fire. The ears of the government are open to hear the student demands Mahmoud Ahmadinejad Iranian President The day before the president visited, the university was in turmoil with students shouting "Death to the dictator".

IF you want to live there, be my guest.

Read more from the article.

It is reasons such as this that motivated a family friend and his family to literally escape from Iran one by one back in the mid 80's. The father wanted his sons out of Iran before they would be forced into military service.

Regarding US involvement in other countries. I wish we would back off from the world and let everyone just suffer and duke it out on their own. I guess were learned our lessons from the early days of the British Empire.

reply posted on 24-11-2008 @ 11:44 AM by dariousg

reply to post by jibeho

Again, a post I tend to agree with but also, not. I don't think that people, when they are blaming 'Bush' are blaming SOLELY him. I believe they are blaming him and the people behind him. The people that advised him. The corporations that he relaxed restrictions on in order to 'grow' jobs. Jobs that went overseas after the restrictions were removed.

There are a lot of things that contributed to it. Much of them have taken place over the past 8 years. THAT is why people blame Bush.

He is the leader of the free world. Just because he dresses nice and is the American president doesn't mean he is not on par with the other names you listed. He is a greedy man and that was very evident with the decisions he made/supported.

He is responsible for the actions of those under him thus he is responsible for a GREAT deal of what is taking place now.

Not ignorance speaking or idiocy, or moronism, or anything like that. Just plain 'ole facts.

reply posted on 24-11-2008 @ 11:50 AM by paxnatus

Originally posted by mind is the universe

Originally posted by jibeho

Originally posted by mind is the universe

Originally posted by jibeho
reply to post by paxnatus

If you really want to go after the political criminals may I suggest that you start with: Chavez, Castro, ahmadinejad, Kim Jong-Il and you might as well turn Africa upside down and shake the thugs out. Need I go on?

Em, what about a real criminal such as Bush? No, your post is most hypocritical and ignorant.

There is nothing wrong with admadinegad either.

Most of the African leaders, are given arms by the American's
God your post is oozing with ignorance...........

How can you blame one person for the problems of the world? Please explain you delusions in detail? Better yet, leave the safety of Ireland and move to Iran. I am sure you will love it.

I'm not blaming everything on Bush, You pointed out war criminals, but forgot to mention Bush.

That's all I wanted to point out :Maybe America
Should solve it's own problem's first before it meddles with other nations problem's AGAIN. Your opionions are inane. America has alot of problem's stop worrying about other countries please

Tell me what's wrong with Iran? Irish people have a little more sense, not to believe everything they hear on the news jibehol! ffs. We are not afraid of Iran or paranoid about the world like some few ignorant American's are.

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Mind, stop please your ignorance is showing! You do not have the political savy to take on one such as "jibeho"

Talk about hypocritical, Why are YOU Mr.Ireland so concerned about a president of. the United States of America? and one leaving office. Last time I checked "We the people"were not talking about the United States of Ireland!! Maybe you should take your own advice and stop medaling in AMERICAN. POLITICS. Or if you must, take the time to do some research so you don't sound like a fool!

I do believe Ireland has enough problems of her own.
And does not need to criticize a leaving American president.

I also hear Putin has plenty
Of room in his country!!

reply posted on 24-11-2008 @ 11:57 AM by jibeho

reply to post by dariousg

I certainly can't disagree with you. The figurehead will always take the fall and the glory. I personally blame congress for the greater part of our economic mess.

Regarding crimes of war... You can certainly go back in history and technically call any sitting president during war time a war criminal. Questionable judgment, tactics, and intelligence have been used in the past and will be used in the future. The nature of wars and our enemies will continually evolve over time. War is hell and no one likes to be the loser.

reply posted on 24-11-2008 @ 11:57 AM by jam321

reply to post by ravenflt

It does not matter if you agree with the war crimes charge or not, the fact remains that Bush pardoned himself for warcrimes, so he has acknowledged that he is a warcriminal whether you like it or not.

Could you please be so kind as to show me or tell me what document he signed? Please do not link me to some video. I request the actual words in black and white signed, sealed, and delivered.

Will be waiting.

reply posted on 24-11-2008 @ 12:17 PM by JayTaylor

Then, hopefully, with the arrest of Bush, he will chicken out and spill the beans on all that was pushed his way to enact...

As much as I'd like to see it happen, I doubt he will ever face any real repercussions for his actions. Granted, the secret service might have to beat down one or two people in the long run but I bet most people will pretend like the last several years never happened. Americans may moan and groan but they don't dwell on anything if it isn't an immediate problem to them...besides, actually trying to do something about it is inconvenient, especially when Lost or Heroes is going to come on in fifteen minutes.

People have already began to forget about it, if you don't believe me just look at all the anti-Obama posts. He hasn't even gotten into the White House yet he has already become the next scape goat.

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reply posted on 24-11-2008 @ 02:35 PM by mind is the universe

Originally posted by paxnatus

Mind, stop please your ignorance is showing! You do not have the political savy to take on one such as "jibeho"

Well he failed oblivingly on certain aspects on simple world politics.

I don't "need" to challenge anyone, I agree with common sense.

Talk about hypocritical, Why are YOU Mr.Ireland so concerned about a president of. the United States of America? and one leaving office. Last time I checked "We the people"were not talking about the United States of Ireland!! Maybe you should take your own advice and stop medaling in AMERICAN. POLITICS. Or if you must, take the time to do some research so you don't sound like a fool!

That post was very immature. Firstly Your president get's involved in World affairs, In everyone of these affairs, his behaviour and decisions are not acceptable.

Therefore I have every right to say to you, that I don't respect or agree with what His administration does.

You better get used to this format

I do believe Ireland has enough problems of her own.
And does not need to criticize a leaving American president.

And? America should stop creating genoicde and war across the globe.

reply posted on 24-11-2008 @ 02:38 PM by mind is the universe

reply to post by jibeho

I would like to see the video. And actual evidence. I don't really like western media

It's almost biased.

reply posted on 24-11-2008 @ 02:50 PM by jibeho

reply to post by mind is the universe

I presume that you are referring to Iran. Perhaps you should check your sources at the Jihad News Network. Your brain is obviously cooked or you are pro Iranian in which case I strongly suggest that you move back to Iran. The fact that you think all Western media is biased tells me enough about you and is a weak method of discrediting a source.

reply posted on 24-11-2008 @ 03:13 PM by mind is the universe

Originally posted by jibeho
reply to post by mind is the universe

I presume that you are referring to Iran. Perhaps you should check your sources at the Jihad News Network. Your brain is obviously cooked or you are pro Iranian in which case I strongly suggest that you move back to Iran. The fact that you think all Western media is biased tells me enough about you and is a weak method of discrediting a source.

Im not pro in any country.

This war mongering is retarded. And America worrying about Iran, is very illogical. When America is the one country that never stops conflict.

Move back to Iran? You don't even sound credible or intellegent on world politics, to say such childish nonsense!

Western media has long, tried to separate the east and west. Capitolism most obviously. Derrange the western population to thinking the West is good, and the East is bad.

That is what has caused so much ignorance within America today. Dance around this fact. This is the reality. I'm western. But I'm a worldy person. I don't put the world into categories

I would like to say I'm a little wiser than that.

reply posted on 24-11-2008 @ 03:28 PM by jibeho

Originally posted by mind is the universe

Originally posted by jibeho
reply to post by mind is the universe

I presume that you are referring to Iran. Perhaps you should check your sources at the Jihad News Network. Your brain is obviously cooked or you are pro Iranian in which case I strongly suggest that you move back to Iran. The fact that you think all Western media is biased tells me enough about you and is a weak method of discrediting a source.

Im not pro in any country.

This war mongering is retarded. And America worrying about Iran, is very illogical. When America is the one country that never stops conflict.

Move back to Iran? You don't even sound credible or intellegent on world politics, to say such childish nonsense!

Western media has long, tried to separate the east and west. Capitolism most obviously. Derrange the western population to thinking the West is good, and the East is bad.

That is what has caused so much ignorance within America today. Dance around this fact. This is the reality. I'm western. But I'm a worldy person. I don't put the world into categories

I would like to say I'm a little wiser than that.

If you are searching for a typical American response then I will give it to you. Lock and Load. Shoot em all, Let God sort em out. I Love the smell of Napalm in the morning. Semper Fi.

You are clearly better than the rest of us because of your self proclaimed worldliness. I suppose you get your information first hand by traveling throughout the war ravaged countries of the world.

Have you lived in Iran lately? Do you have friends that have lived there and escaped there? Before the fall of the Shaw, Iran was a great place to live. It all changed with the rise of the Ayatollah. Put your wisdom to the test and live there for a while.

You misspelled Intelligent. Seems a bit ironic.

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reply posted on 24-11-2008 @ 04:52 PM by Averysmallfoxx

Lets just go back to basics here folks, the congress gave bush limitless spending to wage the war on terror no? So...then they whether they like it or not helped bring this all about, accident or not-GUILTY. Bush didn't just mess up our domestic and foreign policy IN ADDITION to getting us all sucked into a terribly futile war but ran our deficit up to the point where its safe to stop counting how deep in the mire we are financially.If you look at what jobs he had prior to being president you'll find at least a couple FAILED oil companies and not much in the way striking you as competent in ANY thing but being a puppet,and even then.... THOUSANDS of troops, American and British died because Mr.Dubby did what Daddy told him to....oh and you all remember where Daddy's influence lies don't you? Ex-Director of CIA and all that... I mean this guy is seriously either INTENDED to look like a moron to soften us all up for a guy with a little less residual coke on the brain or just an affront to the standards we are suppose to set for our COMMANDER IN CHIEF....None of the people whom helped him get us under his thumb for 8 miserable years have clean hands and as for the congress thing.....just in the last two years how many people were caught taking bribes and such, pretty much confirming ALL the stereotyping of sleeze being the upper class shot callers....I mean we traded a decent president who had a blow job need for a crackhead with an itchy trigger finger.....at least Clinton kept the deficit in check,never had no wars jump off. I mean don't you think the man deserved some head from time to time? Like, what? that's unreasonable??