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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 12:13 PM by fatdad
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Originally posted by Ign0rant
reply to post by MegaCurious
This man should have known his rights. The cop would have never been allowed to search his car if he hadn't been smoking marijuana. The reek of weed
in his car gave the cop the right to search the vehicle and take the XBOX 360. In most cases that Xbox will never make it to the evidence room. Just
another crime perpetuated against the minorities of society.
-Ign0RanT
so by a cop saying he thought he smelt weed gives him the right to search.. wow i wonder if he could abuse such a power ... hmmmm...
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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 12:22 PM by Ign0rant
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Usually Cops cannot search your car. Yet if they have the suspicions that drugs may be in your car they have the right to search your car. Since he
"smelled" weed he had the right to search the victim's car.
On April 5, the Supreme Court ruled 6-to-3 that police officers who have probable cause to search a vehicle for illicit drugs may search every object
in the vehicle, including the property of passengers who are not suspected of illegal activity. Possessions that are physically on the person of the
passenger, such as objects in the passenger's pockets, are not subject to search (Wyoming v. Houghton, No. 98-184; Linda Greenhouse, "Police
Searching Car May Include Passenger's Things", New York Times, April 6, 1999, p. A17; David G. Savage, "Police Power Expanded in Traffic
Searches," Los Angeles Times, April 6, 1999, p. A3; "More Leeway for Police in Drug Searches in Cars," Sacramento Bee, April 6, 1999).
Source
-Ign0RanT
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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 12:31 PM by Ign0rant
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Originally posted by fatdad
so by a cop saying he thought he smelt weed gives him the right to search.. wow i wonder if he could abuse such a power ... hmmmm...
In essence, merely being stopped for speeding should not allow the officer to search your car; however, if the officer saw you throw an empty beer can
out the window, that may be sufficient probable cause to search your car. Or, if the officer smells marijuana as he approaches the car, he may
have an articulable suspicion to search.
law.freeadvice.com...
-Ign0RanT
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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 12:31 PM by Dark Realms
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"You are very right. We are all quick to call cops the "bad" guys and judge them as monsters. What we forget is that they have lives and families
to. They need to live and provide for their families just like us. Cops are told to act such a way, or rather they are conditioned into believing that
their actions are helping society. Instead of blaming the cops we should blame the PTB that made them that way."
So, this excuses them? No one made them become a cop. They could have gotten any number of other jobs.
"Sorry I joined the SS, I was just trying to provide for my family"
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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 12:35 PM by Ign0rant
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This doesn't excuse them. Sometimes that may be the only job they could have gotten. If you are a soldier you will be trained to kill. If you are a
janitor you will be trained to clean. If you are a police officer you will be trained to enforce the law. Yet it is during that training that they are
subjected to views that hinder their vision. The training you get is biased for the job in which you train for.
-Ign0RanT
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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 12:37 PM by jam321
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reply to post by Ign0rant
Thank you Ig. I am very aware of this because it has happened to me. Of course, I had no drugs nor do I smoke, but the officer swore he smelled weed.
All in all, I was handcuffed for their safety but shortly released to go my merry way.
BTW, I think the Supreme Court decision leaves the door open to abuse but that is a different thread.
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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 12:40 PM by jam321
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I see cops just like I do military people. They are doing their jobs with the utmost professionalism. However, I am quick to point out that even
within these organizations you have your 10% of bad apples. Unfortunately, these are the 10% you hear about on TV that gives the whole organization a
bad name.
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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 12:41 PM by Ign0rant
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reply to post by jam321
Yes I greatly agree with you. When it comes down to it is the victim's word against the officers which opens plenty of doors for abuse. Any corrupt
cop can easily say I smelt "marijuana" on the driver. It's just that if you have an ideology that all cops are crooked and corrupt don't give them
an opportunity to harass you.
-Ign0RanT
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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 12:51 PM by anonymousATS
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Originally posted by Ign0rant
When it comes down to it is the victim's word against the officers which opens plenty of doors for abuse. Any corrupt cop can easily say I smelt
"marijuana" on the driver. It's just that if you have an ideology that all cops are crooked and corrupt don't give them an opportunity to harass
you.
-Ign0RanT
Based on the experiences of my life, I want cameras rolling when I deal with these people.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Modern "law enforcement" (war on drugs, war on terror, war on liberties) is the very defination of that
expression. These people are serving and protecting the wrong elements of our society.
The corruption rate is far higher than a few percent......
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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 02:29 PM by nh_ee
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I call it the 9mm rule of authority. I didn't find a reason to 'cuff you so out of spite I am keeping your XBOX because I have the 9mm AND the
Badge.
Unfortunately our system of law enforcement has turned into a point based reward system.
Just as the recent thread describing Police Chiefs admitting that speeding tickets aren't about safety as we're told, but instead they're
essentially an easy source of boosting revenues for the local city government.
Law enforcement officers are now focusing moreso upon trying to keep their jobs by scoring more points (contacts, tickets, arrests) instead of
adhering to their oath of law enforcement officers in upholding the supreme law of the land the US Constitution.
Once again, it's all about the money. The root of all evil.
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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 05:09 PM by falcon
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I got rid of my playstation because I figured sooner or later gov would have come down here and tried to take it. It's a dam good thing I wasnt the
one driving that car otherwise this news story would have turned out quite differently.
"Cop found naked in florida after leaving his car for a few moment's around no witness's to who did it."
Authorities in florida were stunned at was surposed to be a random stop when the call came in by the police officer in question there was no responce
after a hour. One hour later another police dispach arrived only to find the cop handcuffed in the back of his car and the police car stripped of
everything of vaule.
After hours of searching the handcuffed officers car no fingerprints were found on the officer or motive. The only thing were being told is the
handcuffed officer keep's repeating these words. I wont take it I wont take it.
After the officer was found half naked in the back of the police car his tazer was mounted over his head with what officers are discibing as a booby
trap rigged in the event the handcuffed officer would move the tazer would active.
One officer told 13 news we have never seen anything like this before with as rigged as this trap was it would have taken someone hours but he's
telling us he was out cold in seconds and the next thing he knew he was naked in the car and told keep your hands off other people's video games you
are to repeat I wont take it when they find you.
Why we dont have all the details yet were being told the officer that was found half naked might have been tazed over and over again and that could be
the cause of the stutter in his speach.
Local police are telling 13 news anyone with any evidence of who would have done this to this police officer who tried to steal what didnt belong to
him to call the crime line.
Thats how the story should have read. Just my 2 cents.
Viva la francia
Falcon
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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 05:51 PM by Phatcat
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Falcon, didn't you ever see those reality-shows about cops arresting people?
Or some threads on these pages containing video footage from conduct unbecoming a police officer, right down to tazering civilians in their own
cars?
That footage is taken by a camera inside the car.. even before they pull you over, they still have you on candid camera.. so if you assaulted the
officer, and thought you made a 'clean getaway', you might find the SWAT waiting at your front porch.
This ain't the 50's anymore sonny..
offcourse, those videotapes do not have olfactory recording devices, so the cop could state he smelled pot, cocaine ànd serious alcohol abuse coming
from a bus full of nuns, and he'd be the official representative of the state.. guess who'd TPTB would believe?
Could have been worse I guess.. imagine the model of car the victim was driving was a 'popular object' for car thieves in the region..
Whatever happened to 'innocent untill proven guilty' ?
Nowadays people have to prove being innocent after being charged..
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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 06:35 PM by Angry Potato
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I wonder what his gamertag is.
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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 06:46 PM by unnamedninja
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The irony of this is that the cop is probably sitting there playing Grand Theft Auto from that xbox.
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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 08:01 PM by kyred
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I don't smoke cigarettes anymore. But up until 12 years ago I smoked Marlboro reds. They often smelled like marijuana. Anybody else notice this in
the past? Do they still smell that way? Meanwhile, what a buttheaded cop!
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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 08:58 PM by falcon
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Originally posted by Phatcat
Falcon, didn't you ever see those reality-shows about cops arresting people?
Or some threads on these pages containing video footage from conduct unbecoming a police officer, right down to tazering civilians in their own
cars?
That footage is taken by a camera inside the car.. even before they pull you over, they still have you on candid camera.. so if you assaulted the
officer, and thought you made a 'clean getaway', you might find the SWAT waiting at your front porch.
Your assuming that video tape will still be there before he stops and after they find him  .
Ammonium Nitrate is a good material for a makeshift explosive you cant take out a officer without getting the whole police force after you but you can
take out the whole police force why there focused on one man. Cops cost money and if there's no money to pay the cops they dont have any incentive
to do there jobs.
Investigations cost money the more money someone has to spend trying to bust someone for a crime they might have commited the more time is wasted
going after someone who really did commit a crime. Such actions taken can infulence the highest offices in the land.
Lets not forget about the fact that remote control emp generator's already exist there small enough now you can run one underneath someones car and
take out the electrical system including any camera's
Not that I have ever done something like this suggested list of detailed paragraphs listed above.
Falcon
Viva la francia
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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 10:39 PM by SeekerOfAUTMN
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So far, the police as a whole have been called pigs, compared to Nazis, and accused of corruption in this thread.
I'm disgusted, sickened really. You people are so quick to hate on authority that you fail to recognize the reality; that like EVERY organization
known to man, there are bad apples within the police force.
Men and women of the police force join up for many different reasons, some of them good, some bad. Reminds me of the armed forces, except no one hates
on soldiers... They live to serve us after all...
But when the police are mentioned, out fly the "pigs!" and "nazis!". The police take crap from everyone and still manage to keep us relatively
safe.
But of course no one thinks of that when they get a speeding ticket...
Bitterness at its finest.
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reply posted on 23-11-2008 @ 07:09 AM by Oldtimer2
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I think they are just like anyone,there are good cops and bad cops,my brother told me when he worked vice he could make over 150k on the side,but why?
risking your job isn't smart,yes they have busted cops for taking drugs as evidence and it disappears,good cops and bad,doubt that will ever
change,and yes my brother could differenciate cigarette smoke with pot smoke,but we won't get into that
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