Is there any doubt remaining about who bush minor and his team has been working for?
I'll give you a hint... it ain't you and me.
All presidents sign midnight regulations, that's no secret... what is stunning about bush minor's is that they are not designed to push through or to
reinforce new rules and regulations but to dismantle them.
And the sweep of his actions are stunning... if left unchecked consumers and workers will have fewer protections and rights...polluters will find it
easier to pollute without fear of reprocussion and pristine wilderness and national jewels will be opened for drilling, mining and exploration and so
on...
.... and all of it benefits big business.
www.guardian.co.uk
(visit the link for the full news article)
Bush tearing apart protection for America's wilderness, page 1
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Topic started on 22-11-2008 @ 07:13 AM by grover
www.guardian.co.uk
Bush tearing apart protection for America's wilderness
www.guardian.co.uk
George Bush is working at a breakneck pace to dismantle at least 10 major environmental safeguards protecting America's wildlife, national parks and rivers before he leaves office in January.(visit the link for the full news article)
With barely 60 days to go until Bush hands over to Barack Obama, his White House is working methodically to weaken or reverse an array of regulations that protect America's wilderness from logging or mining operations, and compel factory farms to clean up dangerous waste.
In the latest such move this week, Bush opened up some 800,000 hectares (2m acres) of land in Rocky Mountain states for the development of oil shale, one of the dirtiest fuels on the planet. The law goes into effect on January 17, three days before Obama takes office.
The timing is crucial. Most regulations take effect 60 days after publication, and Bush wants the new rules in place before he leaves the White House on January 20. That will make it more difficult for Obama to undo them.
"There are probably going to be scores of rules that are issued between now and January 20," said John Walke, a senior attorney at the National Resources Defence Council. "And there are at least a dozen very controversial rules that will weaken public health and environment protection that have no business being adopted and would not be acceptable to the incoming Obama administration, based on stances he has taken as a senator and during the campaign."
The flurry of new rules - known as midnight regulations - is part of a broader campaign by the Bush administration to leave a lasting imprint on environmental policy. Some of the actions have provoked widespread protests such as the Bureau of Land Management's plans to auction off 20,000 hectares of oil and gas parcels within sight of Utah's Delicate Arch natural bridge.
reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 07:55 AM by stinkhorn
reply to post by grover
The US has more oil in oilshale than the entire rest of the worlds oil supply, that is why Bush is opening it to extraction, so that we can become independant from the rest of the world and set our own destiny.
You think wind turbines are going to propel your car? How about solar?
The US has more oil in oilshale than the entire rest of the worlds oil supply, that is why Bush is opening it to extraction, so that we can become independant from the rest of the world and set our own destiny.
You think wind turbines are going to propel your car? How about solar?
reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 07:55 AM by grover
reply to post by jsobecky
Nonsense josbecky Nonsense.
If he (Obama) pushes through his plan it will be a boon for both the people and industry...
even so big business should not be allowed to benefit at the expense of the rest of us.
Whats good for business is not always whats good for the country and its foolish to think so.
[edit on 22-11-2008 by grover]
Nonsense josbecky Nonsense.
If he (Obama) pushes through his plan it will be a boon for both the people and industry...
even so big business should not be allowed to benefit at the expense of the rest of us.
Whats good for business is not always whats good for the country and its foolish to think so.
[edit on 22-11-2008 by grover]
reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 09:15 AM by BluegrassRevolutionary
reply to post by stinkhorn
reply to post by hinky
reply to post by jsobecky
People like all of you are what is wrong with this country. You all have the inability to admit when you are wrong. Even now, as Bush is prepared to ruin our environment, irradiate our water, and further weaken the constitution, you still defend him and his actions. For generations, people will wonder why YOU were so shortsighted as to vote for this man and why you were so hardheaded as to support him as he tore this country asunder.
Do you realize that we will NEVER drill ourselves to energy independence?
Do you realize that we could have easily become energy independent already had we invested the money spent in Iraq to advance clean energy sources?
Do you realize that once we have ruined our environment, it stays ruined forever?
Do you realize that Bush, who swore an oath to protect the constitution, has done more to weaken its power than all of the other presidents before him combined?
Do you realize that all of the acts he his trying to institute have one thing in common, they seek to allow horrible corporations to make more money at the expense of our personal safety?
Do you realize that, thanks to Bush, when you turn on your faucet in the coming years it may contain harmful levels of radiation?
Do you realize that when you support Bush, you are supporting the president that 98% of living historians agree has been the worst president in American history?
Do you realize that if not reversed, the actions of this president in his last 60 days in office will adversely affect future generations for hundreds of years?
I could go on and on. However, I am afraid too many people like you are so hell bent on being right in voting for and supporting Bush that you would support him in his decision to put a gun to your head and pull the trigger. Please, for your sake and the sake of your children, stop supporting Bush, he does not have your interests at heart.
reply to post by hinky
reply to post by jsobecky
People like all of you are what is wrong with this country. You all have the inability to admit when you are wrong. Even now, as Bush is prepared to ruin our environment, irradiate our water, and further weaken the constitution, you still defend him and his actions. For generations, people will wonder why YOU were so shortsighted as to vote for this man and why you were so hardheaded as to support him as he tore this country asunder.
Do you realize that we will NEVER drill ourselves to energy independence?
Do you realize that we could have easily become energy independent already had we invested the money spent in Iraq to advance clean energy sources?
Do you realize that once we have ruined our environment, it stays ruined forever?
Do you realize that Bush, who swore an oath to protect the constitution, has done more to weaken its power than all of the other presidents before him combined?
Do you realize that all of the acts he his trying to institute have one thing in common, they seek to allow horrible corporations to make more money at the expense of our personal safety?
Do you realize that, thanks to Bush, when you turn on your faucet in the coming years it may contain harmful levels of radiation?
Do you realize that when you support Bush, you are supporting the president that 98% of living historians agree has been the worst president in American history?
Do you realize that if not reversed, the actions of this president in his last 60 days in office will adversely affect future generations for hundreds of years?
I could go on and on. However, I am afraid too many people like you are so hell bent on being right in voting for and supporting Bush that you would support him in his decision to put a gun to your head and pull the trigger. Please, for your sake and the sake of your children, stop supporting Bush, he does not have your interests at heart.
reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 09:22 AM by jsobecky
reply to post by grover
grover, you are so irrationally against anything "big business" that I'm afraid it clouds your thinking.
If it weren't for big business, we'd still be communicating through smoke signals and parchment.
grover, you are so irrationally against anything "big business" that I'm afraid it clouds your thinking.
If it weren't for big business, we'd still be communicating through smoke signals and parchment.
reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 09:27 AM by jsobecky
reply to post by BluegrassRevolutionary
And people like you are so close-minded that you automatically spout the same anti-Bush rhetoric regardless of what he does.
I won't bother demolishing your post point by point, because, although it would be easy to do, I don't have the time.
Pfffft!
And people like you are so close-minded that you automatically spout the same anti-Bush rhetoric regardless of what he does.
I won't bother demolishing your post point by point, because, although it would be easy to do, I don't have the time.
Pfffft!
reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 09:51 AM by infolurker
I have never been a Bush Defender as there are many things I disagree with BUT if this is related to dismantling the "executive orders" that Clinton
put in for the Utah Federal Preserve and the Colorado oil shale grounds then I am all for it.
Many people don't know that Utah is full of low sulfur coal. We now import this coal from Indonesia!
You know why? Our politicians are heavily invested in foreign companies that DO NOT want the US to mine our own resources and buy from them.
Commerce documents show that Lippo business partner Mission Energy (now named Edison Mission Energy) received strong Clinton administration support for the Paiton project. One 1994 document, obtained by Larry Klayman of Judicial Watch, noted the Indonesian government-backed project had "state-of-the-art emissions-control technology... by using low-sulfur Indonesian coal, the project will be one of the cleanest, most efficient coal-fired facilities in the world."
www.converge.org.nz...
On November 16, 1994, President Bill Clinton and the late Secretary of Commerce, Ron Brown, travelled to Jakarta for the Asia Pacific Economic Conference (APEC), at which Clinton signed deals to supply Indonesia with electric power using US taxpayer loans. The deals were worth billions of dollars to US corporations such as Cal Energy, Mission Energy (now named Edison Mission Energy) and General Electric.
The leader of the US project in the Paiton power plant, Mission Energy, is also a partner of Indonesia's Lippo Group, a consortium partly owned by Indonesian billionaire Mochtar Riady and the Chinese Army's bank, CITIC (China International Trust and Investment Corporation.)
According to US Federal Electoral Commission records, Mission Energy CEO, John Bryson, donated money to Clinton's campaigns and also donated money to Clinton's legal defence fund. Riady is also accused of illegally donating money to Clinton's political campaigns.
The Paiton power plant was designed to burn "low-sulfur coal." But in 1996, President Clinton created the 1.7 millon-acre Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument in Utah, placing off-limits the world's largest deposit of low-sulfur coal.
In the process, Clinton also greatly enriched his supporters and the Suharto family. The coal for the Paiton plant is provided under a no-bid contract from the only other supply of "soft" environmental coal - located in Indonesia - and primarily owned by Lippo Group.
By locking-up the US coal reserves into a national park, Clinton vastly increased the value of Riady's low-sulfur coal reserves in a single stroke of his pen. Prabowo's brother-in-law, Hashim Djojohadikusumo, is also a shareholder of the Indonesian reserves of soft coal and is also another partner in the Mission Energy-General Electric partner at Paiton. Hashim's brother is Suharto's son-in-law and a general in the Indonesian Army.
www.worldnetdaily.com...
Please note the Paiton power plant was designed to burn "low-sulfur Indonesian coal". In 1996 President Clinton created the 1.7 million-acre Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument in Utah, placing off-limits the world's largest deposit of low-sulfur coal. The Lippo group is the primary owner of the only other supply of low-sulfur coal in the world, located in Indonesia.
Clinton's move left the only remaining low-sulfur coal supply in Lippo hands, creating a Riady monopoly. The move vastly increased the dollar value of Riady's low-sulfur coal reserves in a single stroke of Clinton's pen. The Indonesian coal reserves, co-incidentally, just happen to be located close to the U.S. taxpayer backed Paiton power plant.
Many people don't know that Utah is full of low sulfur coal. We now import this coal from Indonesia!
You know why? Our politicians are heavily invested in foreign companies that DO NOT want the US to mine our own resources and buy from them.
Commerce documents show that Lippo business partner Mission Energy (now named Edison Mission Energy) received strong Clinton administration support for the Paiton project. One 1994 document, obtained by Larry Klayman of Judicial Watch, noted the Indonesian government-backed project had "state-of-the-art emissions-control technology... by using low-sulfur Indonesian coal, the project will be one of the cleanest, most efficient coal-fired facilities in the world."
www.converge.org.nz...
On November 16, 1994, President Bill Clinton and the late Secretary of Commerce, Ron Brown, travelled to Jakarta for the Asia Pacific Economic Conference (APEC), at which Clinton signed deals to supply Indonesia with electric power using US taxpayer loans. The deals were worth billions of dollars to US corporations such as Cal Energy, Mission Energy (now named Edison Mission Energy) and General Electric.
The leader of the US project in the Paiton power plant, Mission Energy, is also a partner of Indonesia's Lippo Group, a consortium partly owned by Indonesian billionaire Mochtar Riady and the Chinese Army's bank, CITIC (China International Trust and Investment Corporation.)
According to US Federal Electoral Commission records, Mission Energy CEO, John Bryson, donated money to Clinton's campaigns and also donated money to Clinton's legal defence fund. Riady is also accused of illegally donating money to Clinton's political campaigns.
The Paiton power plant was designed to burn "low-sulfur coal." But in 1996, President Clinton created the 1.7 millon-acre Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument in Utah, placing off-limits the world's largest deposit of low-sulfur coal.
In the process, Clinton also greatly enriched his supporters and the Suharto family. The coal for the Paiton plant is provided under a no-bid contract from the only other supply of "soft" environmental coal - located in Indonesia - and primarily owned by Lippo Group.
By locking-up the US coal reserves into a national park, Clinton vastly increased the value of Riady's low-sulfur coal reserves in a single stroke of his pen. Prabowo's brother-in-law, Hashim Djojohadikusumo, is also a shareholder of the Indonesian reserves of soft coal and is also another partner in the Mission Energy-General Electric partner at Paiton. Hashim's brother is Suharto's son-in-law and a general in the Indonesian Army.
www.worldnetdaily.com...
Please note the Paiton power plant was designed to burn "low-sulfur Indonesian coal". In 1996 President Clinton created the 1.7 million-acre Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument in Utah, placing off-limits the world's largest deposit of low-sulfur coal. The Lippo group is the primary owner of the only other supply of low-sulfur coal in the world, located in Indonesia.
Clinton's move left the only remaining low-sulfur coal supply in Lippo hands, creating a Riady monopoly. The move vastly increased the dollar value of Riady's low-sulfur coal reserves in a single stroke of Clinton's pen. The Indonesian coal reserves, co-incidentally, just happen to be located close to the U.S. taxpayer backed Paiton power plant.
reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 10:04 AM by infolurker
Why coal-rich US is seeing record imports - This is a damned shame that we are importing coal because personal gain and corruption trumps national
security. And to many American "buy into" the stories of "preserves" and "environmental BS" while we are being sold down the river.
With nearly a quarter of the world's coal supply - enough to last centuries - the United States has been dubbed the "Saudi Arabia of Coal," by US officials and energy experts.
But thanks to growing global coal markets and clean air regulations, the US is witnessing a latter-day equivalent of "carrying coals to Newcastle" - a 230 percent leap in coal imports to the US since 1999.
www.csmonitor.com...
Another reason imports must grow is long-term fundamentals, experts said. U.S. electricity demand continues to grow. Key eastern coal supplies are in decline, and area utilities will need coal, which generates about half of U.S. electricity supply. (AND WERE NOT ALLOWED TO MINE OUR OWN VAST RESERVES!)
U.S. coal imports, 36.3 million short tons in 2007 and reach 40 million tons by 2015, Kolojeski said. "If there is spot demand in the United States, particularly for plants near the coast, they are as likely to be served by imports as domestic coal," said Howard Gatiss of Coal Marketing Co (USA) Inc, the marketing arm for Colombia's Cerrejon mine.
With nearly a quarter of the world's coal supply - enough to last centuries - the United States has been dubbed the "Saudi Arabia of Coal," by US officials and energy experts.
But thanks to growing global coal markets and clean air regulations, the US is witnessing a latter-day equivalent of "carrying coals to Newcastle" - a 230 percent leap in coal imports to the US since 1999.
www.csmonitor.com...
Another reason imports must grow is long-term fundamentals, experts said. U.S. electricity demand continues to grow. Key eastern coal supplies are in decline, and area utilities will need coal, which generates about half of U.S. electricity supply. (AND WERE NOT ALLOWED TO MINE OUR OWN VAST RESERVES!)
U.S. coal imports, 36.3 million short tons in 2007 and reach 40 million tons by 2015, Kolojeski said. "If there is spot demand in the United States, particularly for plants near the coast, they are as likely to be served by imports as domestic coal," said Howard Gatiss of Coal Marketing Co (USA) Inc, the marketing arm for Colombia's Cerrejon mine.
reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 10:18 AM by BluegrassRevolutionary
reply to post by jsobecky
lol
I am one of the most open-minded people you well ever meet. In fact, if you look up the definition of "liberal," you will see that the term "open-minded" is included. You are correct about one thing though, I am proudly anti-Bush. However, I have always been open to admitting that something he did was correct. I just have not been lucky enough to encounter one of these situations. Please...feel free to enlighten me, if you can. You know, if it were so easy for you to debunk my claims, you could have chosen one or two of them to counter. However, somehow I feel that deep down inside, your better half knows I am right.
[edit on 22-11-2008 by BluegrassRevolutionary]
lol
I am one of the most open-minded people you well ever meet. In fact, if you look up the definition of "liberal," you will see that the term "open-minded" is included. You are correct about one thing though, I am proudly anti-Bush. However, I have always been open to admitting that something he did was correct. I just have not been lucky enough to encounter one of these situations. Please...feel free to enlighten me, if you can. You know, if it were so easy for you to debunk my claims, you could have chosen one or two of them to counter. However, somehow I feel that deep down inside, your better half knows I am right.
[edit on 22-11-2008 by BluegrassRevolutionary]
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