Originally posted by ukuli
Then again Stanton Friedman seems quite sane. He only sometimes speculates too much, like when he thinks that the aliens are coming from Zeta Reticuli - not enough evidence for this one, I think. He also is strongly biased against the SETI research, although I think SETI would be a good way to get some hard evidence about aliens. You know, the kind of evidence that is approved even by sceptics, those mad cultists of unbelief. So I think now that Stanton Friedman has a relatively low BS factor of only 25%.

Is he actually against SETI or does he feel they aren't doing enough? Most people will say SETI is a waste, but they usually mean that they don't think SETI is doing everything possible (and that's probably due to funding problems and lacking technology). Anyway, I don't see a problem with speculation as long as it's not presented as a fact. Anything that is eventually proven usually starts off as speculation.

So I wouldn't give Stanton Friedman a 25% BS rating, but that's just me.

I'd say Richard Dolan has a BS factor of about 2-3%, and Stanton Friedman has a BS factor of about 10%. Sometimes he is a bit biased, while Dolan most often appears objective about things, while presenting the facts

Jacques Valle is one of the few professional honest and ethical UFO investigators ever. That's wh, in his last couple books he politely said it's a con and most of his peers are either well intentiond but delusional, or outright con artists.

Then you get to an academic loser like Stanton Friedman who gets undeserved media attention and some low level celebrity status out of the interest level. These frauds know they have to push the buttons people expect or no one buys their books or pays them to go on talk shows.

There may be alien intelligences among us now, and we aren't even aware or able to communicate with them. How do you talk to or see a complex algorithm, a cluster of highly organized electronic activity, etc.

The flying saucers hovering in the atmosphere observing, with humanoid types behund a high tech steering wheel os straight from bad 50s movies, and has pretty much played itself out. After a zillion photos, accounts, video footage, still not one solid undisputable piece of evidence.

But a lot of guys making a career trying to convince you it's coming.

In the 18th Centruy they were looking for evidence of angels and fairies, in the 19th Century they looked for ghosts. The 20th Century it was aliens.

A lot of unexplained mysteries on earth, many in the ocean. So far nothing to indicate beyond the hypothetical, that any life form from another planet has entered our atmosphere.


Mike F

Mikesingh B.S factor =0 thats my entry I believe everything the man says no matter what
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Michael Horn is 100% BS, stay away from this guy. Unless you want a laugh, just email him and say you don't believe the Meier case, then sit back and await the abuse.