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Bright Beams of Light Seen Over Pennsylvania Skies


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reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 05:57 PM by Phage


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Sounds like Berkland uses the "shotgun" technique. Throw enough lead around and you're bound to get a bullseye once in while.

I've spent a great deal of time and effort in evaluating the predictions made by Jim Berkland in his monthly newsletters. He predicts for 4 areas and each area has the same magnitude range every month. His predictions are well suited to the effort because they are identical except for dates. This means that the probability of success is identical which is necessary for statistical evaluation of probability.

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Berkland retired in 1994 and continues to be a voice in the wilderness. Andy Michael, a geophysicist with the USGS in Menlo Park said his agency has "never been able to find any support for his claims. "Michael said that Berkland predicts so many quakes that he's bound to be right on occasion. "Based on the moon, he makes a prediction of something to happen every month," Michael said. "There are studies of lunar tides that show you can find an extremely small effect, but it's not large enough to be useful. The literature goes back decades."

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reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 06:07 PM by MOFreemason


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Well after reading your post, I'm glad I didn't stay up late last night just to hear him!



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reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 07:23 PM by Anonymous ATS


I saw these lights around 7:45 PM 'till about 8:40 PM on 11/19/08 near Allentown PA. I think they started earlier but I didn't go out and notice them 'till then. I saw 7 very bright white ones. One green dim one in the distance. First I noticed one and it looked like a bright spotlight was shining straight up. I was driving and looked for a light source on the ground - none. I was not near town when I saw this one. Then I noticed there where other lights as I drove more. They were just randomly scattered every direction I looked. They looked like they all started at the same altitiude above the ground.. not very high up they started. They all were the same size wide. The pictures I saw online were of many together. The lights I saw were not close together. They were maybe a mile or more apart. There were some clouds near some of them and others had no clouds near them at all and you could see the stars above them. I parked my car and was standing almost directly below one amazed at how it just went so staight up and where it started on the bottom was so bright.

I have lived in Northern Vermont just by the border of Canada and have seen the Aurora very often. There was only one time I saw it look sort of like this and it was summer time. The shafts of light that time didn't stay in one spot like these PA ones. Those VT ones came down towards the ground and then went back up disappearing as they moved up. The PA lights just looked like a spotlight was up high suspended in the air shining white light upwards in shafts of light.

I thought it was just Aurora, but since then I was commented by someone that it looked like H.A.A.R.P. and now reading about that..I'm not so sure what I saw. It was a little eery unlike the awesomeness of the Aurora. It seemed to be like they were all just too much like each other all shining staight up and the same size. The Auroras I have seen move, sometimes very slow, but still move or change in some way. These PA ones stayed stationary (the shafts of light themselves), but the light inside them sort of seemed to flow about a little bit.

I don't know... but it sure was unusual.



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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 04:07 AM by waveguide3


These are Light Pillars an atmospheric effect of ice crystals above bright lights. Even the US Army is fooled by 'em.

WG3



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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 04:18 AM by internos


Before my post gets misinterpreted, i'd like to point out that "False Aurora" and "Pillars" are the same thing (check the links i've provided)
Ice pillars are caused by ice crystals in the air which intercept urban lights and create pillars of light. Also know as false aurora. Conditions were perfect for this display at 3 degrees.
Image was taken in Hinckley, Ohio on the morning of February 20th. Cannon 20D mounted on an aluminum ladder 20sec exposure, ISO 400


www.buytelescopes.com...

If i'm correct, the definition of "False Aurora" is mostly used by photographers, but it's definately the same phenomenon.



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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 01:21 PM by MOFreemason


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Well, I must say...they're beautiful.



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reply posted on 16-12-2008 @ 02:55 PM by Anonymous ATS


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Im a proffesional photo retoucher. Those pictures were not photoshopped as far as i can tell.



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reply posted on 16-12-2008 @ 03:01 PM by veryrandomannonomous


I live in Pennsylvania, but I have never seen anything like that before, I haven't a clue what it is. But northern lights sounds believable.

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reply posted on 16-12-2008 @ 04:22 PM by C.H.U.D.


As Internos and WG have already said, these are light pillars. Nothing at all to do with the Aurora Borealis, although there are superficial resemblances in photographs.



Source: blog.syracuse.com...


Source: www.arborsci.com...


Source: www.icstars.com...


Source: apod.nasa.gov...


Source: www.extremeinstability.com...


Source: indigofarm.blog106.fc2.com...

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