Obese have right to 2 airline seats: Canada court, page 2
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reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 04:52 PM by deadline527
Im going to say it, and I know i'll get crap for it but oh well..

Being that obese is disgusting. period. Only a very small percentage of people in the world get that fat because of genetics. The rest of these walking heart attacks is due to their own laziness.

How many fat people have you seen come out of military boot camp?

Exactly.

Its called effort. If you work hard, eat right, and exercise, chances are you wont be fat. If you decide to sit on your bum all day, eat french fries and pizza, and do nothing to better yourself then of course your going to be fat, as well as a risk to your own health.

Why are we not demonizing obesity? Is it not disturbing to see so many fat people? Who cares if we hurt their feelings, sometimes that is what it takes to get them to realize they are doing themselves no good and need to start working towards a healtheir lifestyle. I for one am fed up with hearing that its ok to be fat. ITS NOT.

So now when Obama gets elected and tries to implement universal health care, us tax payers are going to be paying for these morbidly obese people and their constant doctor visits due to their poor health. If I am paying someones healthcare, I want to be absolutely sure they are doing their best to be as healthy as possibly. Otherwise they are nothing but a waste of our tax money. Heart attacks, strokes, diabetes, broken bones, joint pain, depression... these are all side effects of obesity. These are side effects that we as tax payers will be forced to pay for.

So yes, I said it. Its NOT ok to be fat. It never was. We need to stop making people think its ok to live such horrible lifestyles, and maybe then, people will get off their lazy butts and try to become a healthier individual.


(As I said before, a very small percentage is actually caused by genetics - the rest of the fat crowd gets no sympathy from me. I'm not skinny by any means, but I also exercise and eat healthy. I could eat three double cheeseburgers, a large fry, and a milk shake - but I dont.. know why? Because i'd turn into a disgusting fat body.)

I feel sorry for anyone who has to sit next to these people not only on planes, but public transportation as well. Its not right to cause somebody else greif because you cant say no to a super sized meal.


reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 04:59 PM by BlackOps719
reply to post by deadline527





I agree there really isnt an excuse for anyone to be morbidly obese, but these airplanes were designed evidently for 5'2" 130 lb Chinamen or something....they sure didnt have the average American in mind.

Super fat people do it to themselves for the most part and that is a seperate matter entirely, but why cant these planes be designed with some leg room and a little elbow room? Why must we all be crammed together in such a horrible manner?

I have a borderline phobia of germs and I hate it when I am forced to be in direct contact with strangers. For some reason I never get lucky and get a seat next to some nice looking female. I always get the fat guy who snores and farts and insists on touching me every ten seconds. Kids are the worst.



reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 05:09 PM by LostNemesis
reply to post by deadline527



You obviously do not know that there is more to being obese than laziness?

It's been said before, and people do not seem to get it. A depressed person does not have the energy needed to get up and jog around town everyday. An overworked person does not have the energy to cook a healthy meal at the end of the day.
A few extra pounds can turn into depression, that causes so much weight to pile on.

As far as I know, many people are obese because they are simply depressed, and instead of having a friend to offer companionship, some turn to food for comfort, because people have turned their backs on them.

Depression causes a lot of self-destructive behaviour. For some it causes anorexia. For others, maybe cutting. All of which will be criticized by those of you who are perfect in every way.
Afterall, isn't that why people attack others? Not because they are insecure in their own lives, right?


reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 05:28 PM by Unit541
Originally posted by LostNemesis

You obviously do not know that there is more to being obese than laziness?


And you're obviously still under the impression that life is fair.

Do I think an obese person should be "forced to squeeze into one seat"? No. That would put them in as much discomfort as the guy next to him, and obese or not, I do have compassion for my fellow human beings.

So, should they be given a free seat? No. In fact, I think those that are overly obese should be required to purchase a second seat. I wouldn't let them wedge themselves into a single if they wanted to.

Special requirements come at a special cost. Flying is expensive enough, and I'll be damned if I'll agree to pay more for my seat in order to offset the free seats given away to those that are too fat to fit in one.

Should they get free knee replacements too? I mean, they've got to carry around all that extra weight, the knees they're born with just don't cut the mustard. We should all chip in and make sure they all get free titanium suspension systems too, right?

Again, if you need to seats, you need to pay for two seats. Do you not understand that these additional seats are not actually "free"? Do you not understand that someone is going to pay for them? Do you not understand that that someone is everyone else buying a ticket?

Your justification for giving them a free seat is simply the fact that they need it. This logic is laughable. I need to eat, but I can't seem to convince anyone to give me free food. I needed equipment for my business, guess what... No dice, had to pay for it.

Ever wonder why it costs more to ship large, heavy packages than small, light packages? They take more space on the plane, and require more fuel to fly. Humans are no different.

The only thing more ridiculous than this discussion is the ruling the discussion revolves around.

Again, it's not free just because you need it.


reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 05:30 PM by Europe
reply to post by LostNemesis



you are right, many poeple dont fit into airline seats, but here is the kicker...... MOST PEOPLE DO.
If im gettin charged 40 euro to bring a bag on a plane when the fella im sittin next to gets charged the same but is twice the size of me your god damn right im gonna complain


reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 05:33 PM by bknapple32
Originally posted by LostNemesis
So, most people agree, that they do not want someone larger sitting next to them, and flowing into their seat. But still you insist that they MUST be squeezed into a tiny seat, where they obviously do not fit... Therefor, shoving them into you anyway??

This can be seen both ways. Large people are human beings. I am sick of everyone treating others as second-class citizens. It is sick.

Personally, I love my 'personal space' being mine alone, and do not want to have to share a space with someone who cannot physically keep out of my 'personal space' either.

Human beings shouldn't be treated with so much lack of respect. You people are CRUEL, and I saw this coming.


We arent treating them like second class citizens. But When you let laziness get in the way of life, there are consequences. We the non fat people have to pay for the fat persons decisions?? Sure, give them two seats, but make them pay for it. If they dont want to pay for it keep them on stand by until two seats together can become available if the flight isnt sold out.

Id gladly switch seats around to give a fat person two seats if the flight isnt sold out. this case, the fat person wont have to pay more.

But if that's not the case, then too bad. Should I, at 6'2'' 200lbs (some muscles, no fat, but still hard to sit) be allowed to stretch my legs out so that i feel the same comfort as a 5'7'' person gets??? It is the same case as a fat person demanding to lift the arm rest or completely enveloping it.


Quit complaining at skip the next mcdonalds you drive by. Go to the gym. You'll be surprised at results even after a month. Flame me all you want, but its a fact. Im just bringing it to you. When I was in college I almost took a turn to fatville. I was drinking beer, eating In n Out burger( you have to try one if you haven't) And I stopped exercising. I hit 230lbs and noticed an overall health setback. I didn't need to airplane seats, but I could see where this road was leading. What'd I do? I STOPPED. I limited myself to beer once or twice a month, cut the soda and fast food out and started cooking at home more. Magically im back to 200 and have never felt better.

I understand everyone is different, but its pure laziness and bad habits that get in the way of progress.

now if the person has an actual medical condition.. i.e a thyroid problem.. Then I believe the airline should cover the price of that second seat. the % is so small, the gesture alone would make them look like a better company and offset any costs.


reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 05:36 PM by bknapple32
reply to post by VelmaLu




the line is drawn of course. But lets get one thing straight people. FLYING IS A LUXURY.

If you are required to fly for work, then work should cover the costs of lying for a fat person. If that prevents you from getting a job, GO TO THE GYM.

The person in the wheel chair still gets one seat sir, drunk driver or not. So I fail to see your point.


The sweaty person who is buff can be the sweaty person who is fat. Sweat and hygiene is luck of the draw when going out into public. Again, I fail to see the point.



reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 06:17 PM by bknapple32
reply to post by LostNemesis



I directed my remarks at you because you seem to be on the other side of the debate. Where did I say I was perfection? I threw my stats in there because I have a hard time sitting because I am tall. Others who are taller have an even worse time than I.

Your whole response to me seems uber-defensive. And this is spiraling into the pits of a debate here. My picture is up on my avatar. As you can see I am NOT fat. Sorry. Im not ashamed of it either. I am not lazy, I work out and diet. If everyone worked out and dieted in the US we wouldn't be one of the most obese countries of all time.

That doesnt mean I dont have compassion, but when you expect me to pay extra money on my ticket to pay for the extra seat for the fat person, I take offense.
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