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Originally posted by Flighty
I wasn't trying to cloud the issue.
Did you read the links? Probably not eh.
Besides, this whole thread has been about obesity, so I fail to see how highlighting other issues that can cause obesity as well, is clouding the issue.
Originally posted by RogerT
Originally posted by VelmaLu
So steroids don't make you gain weight?
No of course not. You only gain weight when your intake exceeds your bodies requirements and the body stores the excess
If you confuse the body by messing with it's chemistry, you'll find the balance a lot harder to maintain, but it's still a choice, no matter how much you wish to paint the victim picture.
Of course, some weight gain can be water retention, but if you're dumb enough to take steroids, then you'll also have no problem taking diuretic drugs to poison yourself back to a slimmer physique
Originally posted by jfj123
Originally posted by LostNemesis
Obese have right to 2 airline seats: Canada court
news.yahoo.com
(visit the link for the full news article)
The high court declined to hear an appeal by Canadian airlines of a decision by the Canadian Transportation Agency that people who are "functionally disabled by obesity" deserve to have two seats for one fare.
The airlines had lost an appeal at the Federal Court of Appeal in May and had sought to launch a fresh appeal at the Supreme Court. The court's decision not to hear a new appeal means the one-person-one-fare policy stands.
This is really simple. You pay for one seat, you get one seat.
If you decided to overeat, then unfortunately, you must pay the consequences. I have no interest in having my ticket price raised to compensate for someone who can't say no to a cheeseburger.
Originally posted by RogerT
reply to post by VelmaLu
Nice rant. Here's mine in response ...
1. You don't know ANYTHING about my current physical condition.
2. You don't know ANYTHING about my current level of medical knowlege or my knowlege of health and healing.
3. You don't know ANYTHING about the motivations behind my posts.
4. You don't appear to know much if ANYTHING about steroid use beyond what you read at the mayonaise clinic website [which you misread, misunderstood or misrepresented]
5. You certainly have not done much if ANY research on pharmaceutical steroid alternatives.
What do you know?
Do you know anything about the many natural cures for MS that don't involve systematic destruction of the bodies natural mechanisms through the use of toxic chemicals?
Maybe you should take a dose of your own medicine and do some research before assuming others haven't. Perhaps then you could be of more assistance to your friend and offer her more than your pity and blind emotional defense ( I applaud you for the latter )
[edit on 28/11/08 by RogerT]
Prescription Drugs That Cause Weight Gain
Weight gain can range from a few pounds to more than a hundred pounds, which can occur with corticosteroids.
Some drugs alter metabolism, causing the body to burn calories more slowly or to store fat. Some corticosteroids, for example, make the body less able to absorb blood glucose, and this can lead to fat deposits in the trunk and weight gain.
Originally posted by Now_Then
It's a safety hazard for people to be that large
Originally posted by Flighty
reply to post by blueorder
Thats about as intelligent as using Cancer victims as an example.
Originally posted by RogerT
"Argue for your limitations and they are yours."
There is no convincing a victim that they have choice until they are willing to take responsibility for those choices they have already made.
The shame here is that your friend must live out the rest of her shortened life in a wheelchair, suffering the uncomfortableness and indignities of being fat as well as the MS, and you are more interested in being right than discovering how to set her free. sigh.
last post in this thread from me. feel free to have the last word.
Originally posted by VelmaLu
Actually, I'm trying to determine where you draw the line. Is it the excess weight, size or just fat people in general? Or is it based on body fat percentage?
Should a very short 5' tall obese woman who fits in the seat be charged the same as a very tall body builder who weighs 250 lbs but doesn't? If his chest and back are so big and muscular that they extend over the sides of the seat, should they be charged for two seats?
I'm asking you to be specific. Obviously, if you believe your solution is fair, you should have no issue applying it to real world examples.