Obese have right to 2 airline seats: Canada court

I'm sure there are conditions that cause a person to gain more weight from a regular diet than they would normally, but it's not like weight gain happens via osmosis from thin air.

Less burgers, more salads. And for crying out loud, walk to the shops to get them!

This is just as much about *not* being forced to sit next to someone so large that you begin to be gravitationally attracted to them. I recall about 10 years ago when I went to a movie theater with my brother; the theater was basically empty - but wouldn't you know it, a 300+ pound behemoth, wheezing, slurping, snorting and all, sits down right next to me and slumps fat over the handles of his seat while he goes on sounding like his lungs are broken vacuum pumps!

THOSE PEOPLE (THOSE OBESE PEOPLE) SHOULD GET EXTRA MOVIE SEATS, EXTRA BUS SEATS, EXTRA PLANE SEATS, EXTRA TRAIN SEATS, AND EXTRA BENCH SEATS!

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This is really simple. You pay for one seat, you get one seat.
If you decided to overeat, then unfortunately, you must pay the consequences. I have no interest in having my ticket price raised to compensate for someone who can't say no to a cheeseburger.

Why stop there? Don't fat people have to pay more for food because they eat more? Those poor afflicted people.. They shouldn't have to pay more then a skinny person for food even if the meal is three times the size. It's not there fault their fat, amarite?

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Fat people should pay for being fat. End of story.

reply to post by libertytoall

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That sounds about right. Also, since it takes more gas to haul them around, they should have to pay less to fill up their car. It's tricky math to factor in the many different mpg's that vehicles get these days to come up with the right amount to discount them, so let's just give them gas for free. To make sure they aren't paying more than everyone else for gas.

I wonder if this will spread over into the private medical insurance world. I mean right now how much you pay is directly linked to your health. So will the insurance companies be forced to bring their prices for obese people directly in line with an athlete?

The government has no right telling a private company what to do, as long as that company is behaving within the law. Telling someone to pay for the service they're using is not descrimination, it's business. Are we going to take this further and say that they shouldn't have to pay for the 4 burgers they eat in one sitting? Burger bars are descriminating against their appetite!!!

What rubbish, how come these others businesses don't have to pay but the airlines do?

For all the obese apologisers out there. Firstly few people here are putting down the obese because it makes them feel better about themselves and to insinuate such a silly thing just takes all serious discussion out of the arguement. People here are annoyed that someone is getting preferential treatment because they choose t eat to much.

For all those people saying medical conditions make people fat, well i'm sorry but if you took these obese people and stuck them in a famine they would lose weight just like anyone else. Simple energy equation, if you take in less than you use you will lose weight.

My father has type 2 diabetes and many ther health conditions and he keeps his weight under control with careful managment of his diet. My mother has hypothyroidism and isn't obese as she takes care of her diet and exercises. There isn't any excuse.

You choose to be obese, stop trying to lay the blaim off on something because you're to weak to take responsibility and to lazy to do anything about it.

So steroids don't make you gain weight?

reply to post by VelmaLu

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Some make you lose it.

And yes, before you ask... AGAIN, I will explain... AGAIN... steroid users who take up two seats count as somebody who takes up two seats, and thus should be charged for taking up two seats.

That is just ridiculous. You buy a seat on an airline and the airline makes profits based upon the number of seats sold. If you need 2 seats then you should have to pay for two or else either not travel or use another form of transport.

Whilst I accept that in a minority of cases there may be a medical reason for obesity in the vast majority it is wilful self abuse that causes the problem and there is absolutely no justification for people being compensated for that.

Please also bear in mind that if fat peole get 2 seats for the price of one then the cost for the rest of us will rise proportionately in order that the airline can maintain its profit margins - how exactly is that fair?

So I wonder if they are going to start training their staff to ask specifically obese people if they would like 2 seats for their fat rear?

What happens if somebody books their flight online, shows up, and surprise! They're a fat person!

But.. uh-oh... the plane's filled up!

I guess that means they kick the person flying next to him off the plane, to comply with the court ruling.

If I were that person, I'd be suing the fatso for whatever I missed out on by getting kicked off the flight. And oh, at that point, would I sure hope it was something juicy.

Well actually there are studies that are proving that a chemical in plastic can promote obesity.



www.washingtonpost.com...



www.dailymail.co.uk...



www.sciencedaily.com...

Just thought I'd add that to help with the conundrum of those who we all know who don't eat a gazzillion calories a day or who aren't cemented to the lounge.
It appears that if a mother is exposed to these chemicals while babies are in vitro, then those babies have a lifelong propensity to obesity.

Back to the regular programming.....

reply to post by Flighty

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I'm not saying they won't have a tendency towards it, hell, I know I do (by the rate my stomach grows) but I don't suck fat out of the air, neither do they.

Weight gain is simply thus:

Calories in > calories used. Easy. If you take in less calories than you use, you lose weight.

I'm sorry, but no amount of studies will change that rule.

reply to post by Flighty

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The key words are 'propensity' and 'promote'.

It's still a choice to be fat and a rich man's prerogative. Stop trying to cloud the issue.

Now this is something

this is absolutley rediculous, not just the fact that fat people need 2 seats, but the fact that a court actually wasted their time on this situation

since when are airlines public? maybe im missing something here but shouldnt those airlines be able to do what they want?

people are getting way out of hand, in todays day and age obesity is a SERIOUS problem, and by doing this, you're just encouraging the problem and making it look like its ok to be fat,

and NO its not ok to be fat

go ahead and attack me for saying that, i just wont bother to read your post

i know that some people out there have true medical conditions that are responsible for their obesity and for them i have nothing but compassion for their horrible problem

but the rest are just lazy or dont care and thats wrong, people should care about their health, not only because it affects them but it affects everyone

all these obese people put strains on healthcare etc etc etc

right now in every city there are people who are going hungry

yet in every city theres a bunch of fat people pigging out at mcdonalds

lack of food isnt the issue its there we could feed everyone, but portions just arent equal

i think alot of time and money is being wasted paying attention to airline seats when it could be better used to come up with a way to help these obese people

in my eyes obesity is a disease and those people need help

whats next we gotta reinforce our busses and cabs to support the extra weight??

add supports to our buildings because they cant handle all the extra thousands of pounds these sad office workers keep adding on?

(maybe not the most serious post of my on ats here but i think thats a good way to get the point across on such a ludicrous topic)

No of course not. You only gain weight when your intake exceeds your bodies requirements and the body stores the excess

If you confuse the body by messing with it's chemistry, you'll find the balance a lot harder to maintain, but it's still a choice, no matter how much you wish to paint the victim picture.

Of course, some weight gain can be water retention, but if you're dumb enough to take steroids, then you'll also have no problem taking diuretic drugs to poison yourself back to a slimmer physique

I wasn't trying to cloud the issue.
Did you read the links? Probably not eh.

Besides, this whole thread has been about obesity, so I fail to see how highlighting other issues that can cause obesity as well, is clouding the issue.

having an opinion is what this is all about- how come there were no fat people liberated at Belsen?