Obese have right to 2 airline seats: Canada court, page 15
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reply posted on 26-11-2008 @ 04:58 PM by jfj123
Originally posted by LostNemesis

Obese have right to 2 airline seats: Canada court


news.yahoo.com
The high court declined to hear an appeal by Canadian airlines of a decision by the Canadian Transportation Agency that people who are "functionally disabled by obesity" deserve to have two seats for one fare.

The airlines had lost an appeal at the Federal Court of Appeal in May and had sought to launch a fresh appeal at the Supreme Court. The court's decision not to hear a new appeal means the one-person-one-fare policy stands.
(visit the link for the full news article)



This is really simple. You pay for one seat, you get one seat.
If you decided to overeat, then unfortunately, you must pay the consequences. I have no interest in having my ticket price raised to compensate for someone who can't say no to a cheeseburger.



reply posted on 26-11-2008 @ 06:32 PM by mattifikation
reply to post by libertytoall



That sounds about right. Also, since it takes more gas to haul them around, they should have to pay less to fill up their car. It's tricky math to factor in the many different mpg's that vehicles get these days to come up with the right amount to discount them, so let's just give them gas for free. To make sure they aren't paying more than everyone else for gas.


reply posted on 26-11-2008 @ 09:02 PM by ImaginaryReality1984
I wonder if this will spread over into the private medical insurance world. I mean right now how much you pay is directly linked to your health. So will the insurance companies be forced to bring their prices for obese people directly in line with an athlete?

The government has no right telling a private company what to do, as long as that company is behaving within the law. Telling someone to pay for the service they're using is not descrimination, it's business. Are we going to take this further and say that they shouldn't have to pay for the 4 burgers they eat in one sitting? Burger bars are descriminating against their appetite!!!

What rubbish, how come these others businesses don't have to pay but the airlines do?

For all the obese apologisers out there. Firstly few people here are putting down the obese because it makes them feel better about themselves and to insinuate such a silly thing just takes all serious discussion out of the arguement. People here are annoyed that someone is getting preferential treatment because they choose t eat to much.

For all those people saying medical conditions make people fat, well i'm sorry but if you took these obese people and stuck them in a famine they would lose weight just like anyone else. Simple energy equation, if you take in less than you use you will lose weight.

My father has type 2 diabetes and many ther health conditions and he keeps his weight under control with careful managment of his diet. My mother has hypothyroidism and isn't obese as she takes care of her diet and exercises. There isn't any excuse.

You choose to be obese, stop trying to lay the blaim off on something because you're to weak to take responsibility and to lazy to do anything about it.



reply posted on 26-11-2008 @ 11:55 PM by mattifikation
reply to post by VelmaLu



Some make you lose it.

And yes, before you ask... AGAIN, I will explain... AGAIN... steroid users who take up two seats count as somebody who takes up two seats, and thus should be charged for taking up two seats.




reply posted on 27-11-2008 @ 01:13 AM by Flighty
Originally posted by The Last Man on Earth
I'm sure there are conditions that cause a person to gain more weight from a regular diet than they would normally, but it's not like weight gain happens via osmosis from thin air.

Less burgers, more salads. And for crying out loud, walk to the shops to get them!


Well actually there are studies that are proving that a chemical in plastic can promote obesity.

The evidence is preliminary, but a number of researchers are pursuing indications that the chemicals, which have been shown to cause abnormal changes in animals' sexual development, can also trigger fat-cell activity -- a process scientists call adipogenesis.


www.washingtonpost.com...

xperts believe that the new research could explain why there is unexplained obesity in children who are eating a normal diet and get sufficient exercise.


www.dailymail.co.uk...

Exposure to phthalates, a common chemical found in everything from plastics to soaps, already has been connected to reproductive problems and now, for the first time, is linked to abdominal obesity and insulin resistance in adult males, according to a study by the University of Rochester Medical Center.


www.sciencedaily.com...

Just thought I'd add that to help with the conundrum of those who we all know who don't eat a gazzillion calories a day or who aren't cemented to the lounge.
It appears that if a mother is exposed to these chemicals while babies are in vitro, then those babies have a lifelong propensity to obesity.

Back to the regular programming.....


reply posted on 27-11-2008 @ 01:57 AM by The Last Man on Earth
reply to post by Flighty



I'm not saying they won't have a tendency towards it, hell, I know I do (by the rate my stomach grows) but I don't suck fat out of the air, neither do they.

Weight gain is simply thus:

Calories in > calories used. Easy. If you take in less calories than you use, you lose weight.

I'm sorry, but no amount of studies will change that rule.



reply posted on 27-11-2008 @ 04:12 AM by RogerT
reply to post by Flighty



The key words are 'propensity' and 'promote'.

It's still a choice to be fat and a rich man's prerogative. Stop trying to cloud the issue.


reply posted on 27-11-2008 @ 04:31 AM by Dramey
Now this is something

this is absolutley rediculous, not just the fact that fat people need 2 seats, but the fact that a court actually wasted their time on this situation

since when are airlines public? maybe im missing something here but shouldnt those airlines be able to do what they want?

people are getting way out of hand, in todays day and age obesity is a SERIOUS problem, and by doing this, you're just encouraging the problem and making it look like its ok to be fat,

and NO its not ok to be fat

go ahead and attack me for saying that, i just wont bother to read your post

i know that some people out there have true medical conditions that are responsible for their obesity and for them i have nothing but compassion for their horrible problem

but the rest are just lazy or dont care and thats wrong, people should care about their health, not only because it affects them but it affects everyone

all these obese people put strains on healthcare etc etc etc

right now in every city there are people who are going hungry

yet in every city theres a bunch of fat people pigging out at mcdonalds

lack of food isnt the issue its there we could feed everyone, but portions just arent equal

i think alot of time and money is being wasted paying attention to airline seats when it could be better used to come up with a way to help these obese people

in my eyes obesity is a disease and those people need help

whats next we gotta reinforce our busses and cabs to support the extra weight??

add supports to our buildings because they cant handle all the extra thousands of pounds these sad office workers keep adding on?

(maybe not the most serious post of my on ats here but i think thats a good way to get the point across on such a ludicrous topic)


reply posted on 27-11-2008 @ 04:43 AM by Flighty
Originally posted by RogerT
reply to
post by Flighty



The key words are 'propensity' and 'promote'.

It's still a choice to be fat and a rich man's prerogative. Stop trying to cloud the issue.



I wasn't trying to cloud the issue.
Did you read the links? Probably not eh.

Besides, this whole thread has been about obesity, so I fail to see how highlighting other issues that can cause obesity as well, is clouding the issue.
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