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Originally posted by KMFNWO
A BW buddy of mine who I questioned about O'reillys treatment of Professor Fetzer was answered by "I think people who don't know what they are talking about should just shut their effing mouths and let "this thing" run its course".
Originally posted by munkey66
Just because someone works for homeland security does not make them the enemy.
Remember these people usually take on these jobs to try and make a difference, there are a few bad apples and they must follow orders, but people in general are usually decent people.
If he was leaving the store and felt a genuine hint of humanity and actually liked the OP as a person even after such a brief encounter, he may have been willing to at least give the OP a bit of a heads up on what is going to go down.
Originally posted by s0ndernet
He got you an arab-american to admit to owning a gun(s), and 'being ready' with it.
And he fed you a story about, what you would assume to be a trained airplane hijacker now living in New York who was being followed by FBI and DHS....
IS NO LONGER BEING FOLLOWED
Now all they have to do is keep their eyes and ears open and see where this story shows up.
If it pops up on some terrorist board somewhere saying 'all clear' then they know YOU are an inside man on terror plot and they know the man they were following in NY is as well.
If it ends up on ATS....the FBI and DHS just wasted a time and effort dishing another story to an arab-american they are investigating or see as a potential threat?
(I hope you dont see this view of your story as racist on my part im telling the concept from the perspective of a government agent who thinks the worst of everyone. peace)
[edited to remove quote]
[edit on 22-11-2008 by s0ndernet]
On the contrary the "seeding the OP" I interpret the statement (paraphrasing) get a shot gun because there will be riots was a forewarning to aid the OP with inside information for his safety.
Originally posted by DocMoreau
The 'See ID' on the back of the credit card makes this feel a bit weird.
He created a situation that enabled him to show you those IDs. He could have paid cash. He could have shown you a driver's license, which is what "he should have done".
In fact, SEE ID is "not legal" per se.
If the card has a “See ID” in place of a signature…
Request a signature. Ask the cardholder to sign the card and provide current government identification, such as a driver's license or passport (if local law permits).
Check the signature. Be sure that the signature on the card matches the one on the transaction receipt and the additional identification.
If the signatures appear reasonably the same and the authorization request is approved, go ahead and complete the transaction.
I have a gut feeling that you were a victim of some sort of fraud or social engineering. You felt compelled to give a ton of information because he was so casual with his clearances, past experiences and such.
Perhaps he was really with Homeland Security, or maybe he was using a stolen credit card. But something about the guy, and the experience screams at me. I am just not sure what it is....
[edit on 21/11/2008 by DocMoreau]
Originally posted by EldersCouncil
Interesting set of comments, but he was probably just messing with you. Maybe he went to one too many emergency preparedness meetings that week
Originally posted by whiteraven
So as an Arab American i would'nt worry. They are watching everyone...and with good reason..a lot of guys are really pissed off about the goverment.
I believe your guy was trying to warn you. I mean the warning sighns are everywhere and it does not take a genius to understand that we are in for some hard times.
Originally posted by AceWombat04
I think it's important to keep in mind that government or law enforcement employees are people too, and often voice personal opinions or suspicions regardless of whether they have any validity or foundation in anything other than their own feelings.
Originally posted by foremanator
You know I get the impression that the Government definitely thinks rioting or civil war is going to occur in the near future.
But why do they think that? I mean not to draw comparisons, but this isn't south America or Tajikistan.
What is it that people are going to become aware of, that is going to piss them off so much as to incite them to rebel ignore the law and overthrow their Government? I mean it has to obvious and blatant with no denying or hiding
I would say the looming possible econimic disaster, this would cause comple shut down of every thing until the milatary gained control. I know where I live they would be in my back yard protecting what I live next to.