when the benefits outweigh the risks and the public is given the opportunity to form a common voice.

In learning about all the cospiracies,groups,etc, ive often asked myself the same question. "What would be the best way to fight "them"? ". I have thought about it and thought about it. I truly cannot come up with the correct answer that would be a solution of peace. Because i know "they" will not willingly just give up their "power" or whatever you wanna call it, so the only thing i can say when the time comes, it will be the time to act. Because if it's meant to happen then it will happen and whatever happens will happen. I know that i am a strong advocate of free-will and the constitution, so if ever they come to my door with some none sense about NWO and taking my rights etc, then by that time I would have already started the revolution!!!!!

Europe has a similar problem,but not as bad as in the states, where i think the line has been crossed already. Civil rights don't exist there anymore.
I work often with people from other nations, and we all agree that a single world government, police force etc IS necessary if we are to go further as a species.(Army, navy etc no longer neccesary)
Only we must do it on our own, in our own time, and NOT their way!
Their way would mean a total dictatorship and the treatment of fellow man as an animal.
I for one would fight (i won't make it easy for them).
Guns are illegal in Europe, and, having seen 2000 years of warfare, they are less motivated to take up arms. Their best weapon would be to strike and bring the whole country to a halt, but it would take a BIG PUSH to get them started. They are too comfortable right now, and the Elite know it.
Our BEST WEAPON is the INTERNET. They have no or little control over it and it scares the crap out of them.
Whatever happens next in America is of great importance, and will probably be repeated in England. One thing's for sure: The 'energy crisis' and 'financial' crisis were carefully planned, as a result of this millions could die-and for that alone i say; Hang em high!
Let's start with the Bilderberg group.

I have thought about this topic constantly, for several years...

What can WE the PEOPLE do to make changes so that THEY dont use us as slaves in there little games?

The answer: Nothing without violence

Is violence the answer?

NO!!!

So what can we do?

NOTHING!!

Yet is this true?

Absolutely not.

The truth of the matter is no matter if there is a NWO or not our rights are trampled on a little at a time. So slowly that average people do not care. We cannot elect officials because of the electoral college. We do not see 90% of the laws that are passed which strip our rights even more. I mean something as simple as wearing a seat belt??? Who are you (NWO, Gov whatever) to tell me I have to wear a seat belt? How about taxes? Well what did the government do to earn my money? So how can they arbitrarily take out 45% in taxes every paycheck just to turn around and add 7% in sales taxes, property taxes and every other way so that you wake up one day and now I am paying them for me to work????

Yes yes I know you all know this so here is the answer you all seek...

Peacefully and without confrontation, STOP PLAYING THERE GAMES.

Imagine what would happen if we all stopped paying taxes? They gonna try to take ALL of our homes??? If we stop wearing seatbelts. They gonna give ALL of us tickets. Yeah right try again.

There power is based off of fear. WE are afraid of getting into trouble and loosing our prized possessions. But explain to me how they can take away stuff??

We as citizens should NEVER instigate any violent actions or by course of inaction cause harm to our fellows. Yet do not turn the other cheek either. If the government tries to harm you for living as a free person then by all means defend yourself, or help defend your neighbor.

Certainly do not wait on some fabled "leader" to come about. For I gaurantee that such a leader would inevitably abuse their position and fashion society in a way to benefit him or her.

Wait on second thought... I will be your leader!!!!

J/K

Originally posted by Jay-in-AR
I mean, I'm looking at this thing (and I have been for quite some time) from a future historical standpoint...

Think about it. How significant is the day that mankind dropped nationality and developed a TRULY global community... COMPLETELY united?

Imagine the utopia. That is EXACTLY what utopia would be. A unified world with a peaceful existance... Now, what does it take to get there? The simple fact of the matter is that people do NOT WANT a global community.

I ask why. Why not?
Hey, if we can agree that a peaceful global community would be our "mythical" utopian society, then surely we can avoid a lot of the pain in getting there.

The NWO and the elite think most of us are useless eaters. These people want control. They want power and wealth. And they have no intention whatsoever of sharing.

Think of the corruption we've seen everyday for the last 100 years from our own "local" politicians (local, state, federal). Now imagine that corruption multipled by a factor of 1000. That is what a NWO government built today would behave like. Is that a future where you'd like to raise your kids?

One day, maybe in another 1000 years, we will have grown enough to get by this greed and power lust. Until that day happens, I'll count myself as cannon fodder for the resistance.

I'm sorry to interrupt the little peace fest to those that dismissed violence as an option. I'm sorry but the words of our founding fathers "The tree of freedom must be refreshed with blood every generation" In other words? They KNEW that peaceful means won't work as long as the elite retain power. Yeah, you can try and live off the grid and off the system, but what do you think will happen once they discover this? They'll use bulldozers and chase you out of your own land.

You want the realistic solution? Then you have to get rid of the leaders. No, I don't mean the politicians, everyone in here knows that our politicians are nothing more than puppets who simply do what their elit overlords tell them. What has to be done is find out who these elite at the top are. I'm sure it can't be that hard to find out. Heck if we can find them in the bohemian grove and the bilderberg meetins, it can't be hard to find out who they really are. Remove the heads at the top, and any second in command wanting to take over, and it will send a clear message to them.

If you do this covertly, in secrecy, they won't see it coming and what's even better, is that it will start scaring them so much, that whoever is left will actually start having second thoughts about their whole NWO plan. Nothing scares humans more to the core, than that which they can't see. These elites are no different. "Criminals are a superstitious and cowardly lot" the saying goes, and that includes even those in organized crime and yes, that's exactly what these elitists are, criminals.

Get rid of the head, quickly and swiftly, and the rest of the body will fall.

Sometimes, some people don't learn until you fight back violently. I know because I've tried being a pacifist (what a crock! by the way), and seen that for some people it just doesn't work. It was only until I started defending myself and they got a swift kick in the A*** that they realized that they can't mess with me and left me alone.

[edit on 6-12-2008 by Question]

Originally posted by psychedeliack
it would be more fun to water board them and force them to confess on camera for the whole world to see. Surely there are some people easily capable of such a mission.

Yeah. This would (imo) probably be the most effective way to thwart these clowns. I don't think any other way would be a success.

[edit on 7-12-2008 by The Scarecrow]

Originally posted by NellahB
If we start shooting people we'll just end up in "camp." Email and phone calls are a great way to voice your opinion. I've emailed Pelosi, Obama and even the White House. Emailed my congressmen. If more people will mail these higher ups and let me know we ARE the bosses here! Come election time we might forget to vote for you! We the people ... we the people need our opinions heard! Get mad and get loud ... don't get violent!

Yep! just like they did with the 7 billion dollar bail out. Our messages really scared them into doing what we wanted!

the only thing i can think to do is hunker down and try to live ur life the best you can and jump in with ppl fighting,

but if it were me i would stay in my town and launch guerilla attacks on the occuping forces. you cant win but be a pain in the ass for them and dont go willingly

To Studenofhistory...

The money that you say was invented in the Bronze Age was actually based on something wether it be grain holdings, precious metals, whatever.

What is today's money based on? Thin air. Perception, that's what. You are working for debt. (if you are working) You are spending 7-10 hrs per day at least five days per week to earn something that doesn't exist.

Money no longer serves us and indeed it is used to enslave us. If it doesn't work, get rid of it and move to something which does. Does the barter system work? I think it is a partial solution, locally at least. As for the rest of the solution, I do not have a suitable answer. Perhaps I have been brainwashed to the extent that even though I am able to identify money as THE most negative and corrupting influence on our planet at this time, I am unable to come up with a suitable overarching alternative.

To Question...

Welcome to the love fest.

I have studied the problem from your perspective, extensively. Cut the head off the snake? C'mon, these systems which control us are self-sustaining. You could take out all the World's leaders at the United Nations in NY and what would it achieve? Nothing. Replacements will be brought in. All you battlestar galactica fans will remember how far down the line President Roslin was before she was next in line for the presidency. That is quite accurate in the real world. It is part of a thing called Continuity of Government planning. Notice there are no Continuity of Community plans.

They actually want attempts at revolution. They want uprisings and they want rebellion. Not only would this identify their enemies for them, but it would also let them enact legislation that will make the Patriot Act look like the UN Declaration of Human Rights.

You let them stay relevant to your life and you will reap what you have sowed one way or the other.

If you do not agree with the oppressive laws, do not follow them. If the government, illuminati, NWO gets in your way, apologise to them then when their back is turned, go around them while they are not looking.

Make them irrelevant and you win the battle, not only for yourself, but for your children and grandchildren.

As Sun Tsu said, "The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting."

If you just want fondle your camo painted M4-gery, AK or SKS while dreaming of fighting the NWO in the backwoods, that is your perogative.

If you ever put those fantasies into actualisation, you will be perforated in many places and maybe someone nearby will hear you sobbing for your mother as your lifeblood ebbs into the soil. Your sacrifice will mean nothing. You will not have made the world a better place through your painful death and you will have simply made the Beast stronger because it feeds off your rage, your pain and finally, off your blood.

[edit on 7-12-2008 by traveller]