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When Do We Start To Fight Back?

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posted on Nov, 22 2008 @ 11:02 AM
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Just a thought and please OP dont take this personally, but has anyone noticed how these " lets rebel, take them all out" posts are becoming more prominent nowadays?. I wouldnt put it past those who are already prepared with FEMA camps, military based at home and black clad mercenaries, to incite a rebellion to plan in this and many other forums.

As I said " just a thought".

Respects




posted on Nov, 22 2008 @ 11:03 AM
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We start to fight back when we decide to stand up and voice our opinions. Sitting here typing all this on a thread and blog doesnt do it. We need to stand up and be heard. I am a country boy, waiting for the South to rise again. I am not racist, I hate every one equally. But right now We need to band together, regardless of religion and beliefs. It is time we seperate from the communist ways of this "Obama our savior" crap. Until That one person stands up and people listen, we will never truly be free. They have tanks and missles... so do we. But we have pride and desire, do they???



posted on Nov, 22 2008 @ 11:06 AM
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Did you see anything in my post that even came close to saying "lets rebel"? Dont classify me or put words in my mouth please. I was only asking a hypothetical question, alluding to the phsycology involved in the actions and decisions of different people.



posted on Nov, 22 2008 @ 11:15 AM
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That is a very tough question......When is crossing the line crossing the line? I think it will be when the government makes the first move. It will take something along the lines of banning of firearms and then an attempted confiscation.....or a rounding up of the "Red and Blue listers".
If "We the People" act first we become rebels.......

We have allowed those in power to corrupt the Constitution, corrupt of election system, and intentionally rob the US Treasury. In my opinion, within the next year there will be open fighting in the streets, and then it will sprial out of control and the government will run and hide like the cockroaches that they are.



posted on Nov, 22 2008 @ 11:43 AM
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Originally posted by omega007
reply to post by spookjr
 


That is a very tough question......When is crossing the line crossing the line? I think it will be when the government makes the first move. It will take something along the lines of banning of firearms and then an attempted confiscation.....or a rounding up of the "Red and Blue listers".
If "We the People" act first we become rebels.......

We have allowed those in power to corrupt the Constitution, corrupt of election system, and intentionally rob the US Treasury. In my opinion, within the next year there will be open fighting in the streets, and then it will sprial out of control and the government will run and hide like the cockroaches that they are.


The People will NOT do anything about this UNTIL every resemblance of FREEDOM has been taken away and gone. Then and ONLY then will the People rise up and take their country back from the TYRANTS who have used decades of lies and facades to take it away, swapping a sense of FALSE SECURITY for FREEDOM.



posted on Nov, 22 2008 @ 11:59 AM
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The line might be crossed when they force a president on us that isn't a U.S. citizen. That day will come very soon, like 1-20-09. If I'm remembering my U.S. history correctly, it was only a very small number of men capable of fighting that actually fought in the Revolution. I believe it was less than 10%. If there is only 50 million men of age or have the health to fight, that's still 5 million men (assuming 10% are willing). That is two or 3 times the size of our current military.

Start training with friends and family that are of like mind. At this point, don't trust anyone you don't really know. I would only trust long time friends or family members. Take an inventory of supplies and equipment. Work together on getting the things you need. Don't be a loner. You can't survive a combat situation by yourself in the long run. There is no such thing as a "Rambo" or a one man army.

We are fighting powers greater than mankind. Get right with the LORD. Keep the faith. Don't give up this country without a fight. We may lose many battles and maybe our life as an individual, but we the people will win in the end!!

God bless.



posted on Nov, 22 2008 @ 12:44 PM
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The line was crossed a very long time ago. The time to fight back came a long time ago. Defense of liberty is a full time occupation and a life-long battle. You should be defending your liberty everyday.

For those of you who keep asking when is the time to get violent, when is the time to fire a shot.....

You will know that time has come when you find your finger on a trigger.

Nobody else can tell you when, for each man has his own limits.
I figure most will wait until long after that first shot is fired. You will probably never hear about the first shot. It may very well have already happened. But is spun as just another psychotic conspiracy nut gone off the deep end. Most will wait to see the consequences the first ones face, and react accordingly.

It will not be televised as a revolution in the beginning. It will be televised as some nut in clock tower shooting people.

What I'm trying to say is... if you're looking for some kind of big signal to start fighting, you're not going to get it. So you may as well just sit back down and wait for it to happen. If and when it does happen, I assure you somebody will let you know.



posted on Nov, 22 2008 @ 01:06 PM
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I've posted similar thoughts on a couple of other threads. I invite anyone who is passionate about doing SOMETHING to U2U me. If you do, I'll suggest a practical plan of action.



posted on Nov, 22 2008 @ 01:09 PM
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Slimpickens........Well said. I agree 100 percent. The first shot will be when each one of us pulls the trigger for the first time, when each and everyone of us realize how far "They" have taken our God Given rights.

Your words are of a true patriot, I applaud them.



posted on Nov, 22 2008 @ 02:56 PM
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If we start shooting people we'll just end up in "camp." Email and phone calls are a great way to voice your opinion. I've emailed Pelosi, Obama and even the White House. Emailed my congressmen. If more people will mail these higher ups and let me know we ARE the bosses here! Come election time we might forget to vote for you! We the people ... we the people need our opinions heard! Get mad and get loud ... don't get violent!



posted on Nov, 23 2008 @ 02:41 AM
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Originally posted by NellahB
If we start shooting people we'll just end up in "camp." Email and phone calls are a great way to voice your opinion. I've emailed Pelosi, Obama and even the White House. Emailed my congressmen. If more people will mail these higher ups and let me know we ARE the bosses here! Come election time we might forget to vote for you! We the people ... we the people need our opinions heard! Get mad and get loud ... don't get violent!


That is the way it is supposed to work. Unfortunately it is not reality.

Look to the recent Economic Stabilization Act as an example.

Another is the Trans Texas Corridor project.

The general response to emails and letters is a scripted reply to the effect of "it is the will of the voters".

They will have you believe the will of our representatives is eqivalent to the will of the people, this too is how it's supposed to work and again it is not reality.

It is why many important and heinous laws and regulations are buried in "economic stimulus" or other "benevolent" type bills.

I'm not promoting violence as a solution.

Violence will be not an action but rather a reaction to increasing use of
force by the government to implement their will.



posted on Nov, 23 2008 @ 03:25 AM
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""First they came…" is a poem attributed to Pastor Martin Niemoller about the inactivity of German intellectuals following the Nazi rise to power and the purging of their chosen targets, group after group...."

"In Germany, they came first for the Communists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist;
And then they came for the trade unionists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist;
And then they came for the Jews, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew;
And then . . . they came for me . . . And by that time there was no one left to speak up."
from wikipedia

At one point we have to tell them enough is enough. Do we let them take our money, our health, our homes?



posted on Nov, 23 2008 @ 10:32 AM
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It always amazes me when people let their paranoia blind them to the reality of what they are arguing against.

The Trans Texas Corridor?! What is so wrong with bridging the continents? Transportation routes ALWAYS lead to development. And in this case we are talking about allowing Mexico to develop along with us.
Having the world on a level playing field is THE ONLY WAY to progress as a species. Until then we still have nationalistic agendas.
Sure it is always nice to talk about peace on Earth, but when people are presented with a means to make it a reality, they fight it tooth and nail!



posted on Nov, 23 2008 @ 01:04 PM
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It is theft of our land and forfeiture of our sovereignty. Both of which
are encroachments of our liberty, regardless of the end result.



posted on Nov, 23 2008 @ 04:49 PM
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I am already saying "NO MORE!" I have no 'Drivers License', I carry a firearm without a 'permit'. I do not contract with Police officers, I do not give my Date of Birth (no Human can remember their birth, so why lie about it) I do not carry ID, nor give the Social Security number they assigned to my fictional birth record.

People always rant about how they will not give in, yet there are things they can do right now to not submitt to the Corporate US Government or contract with it, yet do they do it? No.

But somehow, when the big day comes, these people believe they will have the skills needed to be free of the New World Order. Practice makes perfect. When they tell me "papers please" I will know how to say "No" lawfully, how? Because I am already doing it! Fear and ignorance is all that is stopping we, the people from empowering ourselves.



posted on Nov, 24 2008 @ 11:50 AM
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We are not in a position to actively fight back, unfortunately. I think that much is depressingly clear. All we are to them are a bunch of sacrificial lambs. They have us exactly where they want us (ignorant, distracted, and helpless) Sorry to be so blunt, but I think there needs to be a reality check. Obviously we can't forcefully combat them. We have to be creative in our resistance. Think about it. They expect us to try to physically fight back. They would never expect us to use our brains!



posted on Nov, 24 2008 @ 01:55 PM
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We are fighting back! We just elected by a huge margin a President for the people! Let's see what he can do to get the Filthy Rich to pay their share, and give a break to the working man! ...if that doesn't work, I'm ready to join you in arms;-)



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posted on Nov, 24 2008 @ 02:07 PM
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We should have started to fight back when Christianity was invented, like really how did so many get dupe3d into believing such lies?



posted on Nov, 24 2008 @ 04:59 PM
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Back to the sign thing, we as america didnt get a big sign, but england did a very long time ago. anyone remember the fifth of november. called a treason against england. in reality, it was a mere plot of freedom. freedom from government control. if you're looking for a sign, there it was. yet no one saw it as one. the fight for liberty has begun, a lot of us know that. it just hasnt began in a full scale, how should i say this, "rebellion" i guess. I think we are also getting clues to react from, oh, say television shows, movies, books. if you think about it, a lot of resources encourage rebellion against your government if it is trying to controll you. if anyone watched the new 24 that was just recently on. 24 REDEMPTION, it showed the government silencing a person who was trying to expose something it was doing. it shows thses higher powers, actually giving aid to tyrants who are trying to take over small countries, who have little to no defenses. also, me being still a kid kind of, the among the hidden books. the government was controlling everything, from what crops farmers can make, to what animals can live, to how many children people can have. they encourage you to revolt against your government, in pursuit of liberty, freedom, and the chance to live without fear. we need to look outside the box too. it sometimes helps encourage us. if i offended anyone here, i am truly sorry. this is my first time on here and i couldnt pass up the opportunity to post my thoughts on here. i love this website.



posted on Nov, 24 2008 @ 05:46 PM
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I agree totally with your comment about using our brains. That's the only way we can overcome the PTB's technical advantage that allows them to read our email, and monitor us electronically. There are things we can do that will 'mess with their heads'. Use your imagination and while we conduct PsyOps against them, we should also be connecting with members in both the regular Army and National Guard units. Even if the Generals won't stand up to the PTB, we can still beat them if the Captains, Lieutenants and NCOs collectively say NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO YOUR DIRTY WORK FOR YOU. There is already some evidence that some senior military officers do not like what they see coming down road. If they think their illegal orders won't be obeyed, they won't even issue those illegal orders. IF they think the NWO plan will fail, they'll be even more inclined to resist it. IF we use our heads, we might even be able to get members of the PTB to turn on each other. Wouldn't that be something to see?



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