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reply posted on 27-11-2008 @ 09:53 PM by BO XIAN
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We have a FREEPER at

WWW.FREEREPUBLIC.COM...

who worked with Greer in the ER. She says he's a top flight MD and was a great guy with high integrity and smarts.

However, a couple of things seemed to happen after he'd dedicated himself to this cause for a few years . . .

1. he hobnobbed with a lot of biggies and it seemed to go to his head overmuch.

2. he seemed to get immersed in/get seduced by the occultic new age mysticism aspects and hasn't been the same since.

Sad. Sounds very sad, to me.

However, that would be one way to neutralize him. Drive, lead or seduce him over an edge into blithering silliness.


reply posted on 27-11-2008 @ 11:53 PM by jritzmann
reply to post by BO XIAN



I have been told by a veteran, highly respected researcher, that essentially he's always been a bit "off".

But aside from that, this enigma does in fact tend to have an effect on people. Over the long haul, I've seen quite a few people obsessed to the point of psychosis, paranoia, and it's debilitating.

Now, do I believe Greer is one of them? No. I don't think he's tuned into anything past what he can gain from it. I think he's a smart guy who sees opportunity, and provenance to gain foothold in a "field" that doesn't have a long term memory for nonsense and broken claims.

Lemme be brutally honest with you folks. When you have this thing effect your life, in profound ways, the idea of "selling" it for big cash or profiting unreasonable sums for it...is damned near unthinkable. Part of you says you've suffered because of it, and why not make it pay for you. The other half asks you how you can live with yourself to sell such a personal experience. It's part of you. It is for me, one of the deepest parts, because it's interaction was one of my first memories of childhood.

One of the many reasons (besides the ridiculous claims and nonsense, and a host of other crap) I put no stock in Greer is the aspect of money, NDA's and absurd fees. Because you know when you've had any experience like this, that it's not a frigging product....it fits into no box, no label, and no price.

Write a book? Fine. Sell art inspired by experience? Sure. But, sell an experience? Sell YOUR experience? If you've had it, and I know some of you have...you'd never dream of it.

You'd just want to share it. And you don't need Greer, or any of the rest of them to meet the alien. Any of you can. But be careful what you wish for.



reply posted on 28-11-2008 @ 08:33 AM by jritzmann
reply to post by GoldenAge



Moving goalposts again. You're behaving as if no one believes in or condones new forms of energy, or research into alternate power. That is not, and has never been, what this discussion is about.

If anyone wants to fund exploration of this kind of research, which is certainly needed, that's great, but I certainly wouldn't start with sending anything to Greer's bunch. There may be no problem with who he's assembled together, but ultimately he's running it, and associated with it.

That's the problem.

But, that's not the discussion. The discussion is his UFO related claims and statements. However we seem to be continually brought to associates with Orion and alt. energy.

Again, discarded.


reply posted on 28-11-2008 @ 05:35 PM by Jeremy_Vaeni
reply to post by GoldenAge




I don't know if they are or not as you've not linked to any quotes from them...but let's assume Greer is getting props from decent people in that field. Why would he?--Because he's championing their cause and they've not checked out his background. That would be my guess.

Greer, on the surface, probably seems competent, confident, and is a doctor. What's not to love? This is how he suckered the likes of Robert Salas into joining his disclosure movement--He was an open ear with the above listed qualities when the man didn't know to whom to turn. I've read in some forum--maybe this one--the argument for Greer is that a guy like Salas surely would not have trusted him with his story without doing a proper background check. That sounds logical but it isn't generally what people do. Salas didn't. I asked him.

So how many other credible, smart people just trusted the guy blindly because he sold them on his credentials and go-getter spirit? It's as old as Avon calling.


[edit on 28-11-2008 by Jeremy_Vaeni]


reply posted on 28-11-2008 @ 05:58 PM by Jeremy_Vaeni
reply to post by GoldenAge



Correct, I don't know. I also don't know if my chair is going to come alive and shove me off of it and demand equal rights.

I'm dealing in probabilities.

And the probability, based on Greer being a snake oil salesman is... I'll let you guess.

I'm done with this. It's tired. Your stupidity is boring. I hope you're secretly intelligent and this is part of an experiment to see how many times you can get morons like me to respond to your repetitive nonsense.


reply posted on 28-11-2008 @ 06:03 PM by GoldenAge
reply to post by Jeremy_Vaeni



Well, I was secretly intelligent enough to actually talk to Nora Maccoby and Todd Hathaway, for example.

And they said, "yeah we do volunteer work for Greer/AERO and other people...." (Orion Project didn't exist at that time.)

See? You guess, and deal with your "probabilities".... I know. Because I do my homework, and you don't.


reply posted on 28-11-2008 @ 06:13 PM by GoldenAge
reply to post by Jeremy_Vaeni



They already are available, Vaeni. That's the whole point.
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