Ultimate Snub Fest: World Leaders Refuse to Shake Bush's Hand During G20 Photo-Op , page 5
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reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 12:35 PM by Frankidealist35
reply to post by Jay-in-AR


Yes, I agree with you. Personally, I don't think we have gone down that road of serfdom yet here in the USA, but it certainly looks like at times that we're headed that way. I am an anarchist at heart, and, I would love to see communities replace Governments, as ruling bodies for the people, but, I know that this will never happen in this day and age.


reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 12:41 PM by Jay-in-AR
reply to post by Frankidealist35



I'm not so conservative. I think unification is the answer. However, that can only be an answer if the Governments revert to being true to the people and act on their behalf...

Anyhow, that is aside from the point. And all of this has been.

I think it is hilarious that the propaganda machine is now painting the picture of G.W.B. being a defeated man.

I guess I'm dropping my participation in this thread. In actuality this thread should be dead by now. I was just making a commentary on how this thing may shine in the eyes of the simpleminded average American.


reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 01:54 PM by jaamaan
Originally posted by stereotype
The video is misleading so heres the other side.

www.youtube.com...



Yes exactly what i thought.
Video taken out of context.

I am no bush fan but this is just weak journalism.


reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 04:03 PM by mattifikation
Originally posted by Frankidealist35
reply to
post by mind is the universe



We know that we've had a crappy President. . Yet we still stand by him because we don't want to appease to Europeans who hate us for their anti-American sentiments or the terrorists that want us to die for our foreign policy.


No, we don't stand behind him at all. Very few people, and I daresay the more... back-country cowboy types... still stand behind him, and that's a matter of pure over-the-top machismo than any kind of rational opinion of the "man."

Originally posted by Frankidealist35
reply to post by mind is the universe



Maybe you think they're illegal wars, but, they aren't wars at all technically. They're "military actions". We haven't had a real war since WWII.

We've stopped caring about that other stuff. We know that our military does some dirty things and stupid things. We're just hoping that Bush doesn't make our country worse before the next administration settles in.


Alright. So if I shoot somebody, it's not technically shooting them unless I hold a vote and declare it a shooting? Come off it.

And no, we absolutely haven't stopped caring about it. Everyone I know is horrified by the "other stuff" that's been carried out in our name. EVERYONE. Read that?

[h1]EVERYONE.[/h1]

Originally posted by Frankidealist35
reply to post by mind is the universe



I understand your resentment toward Bush but I think it was necessary that we responded to these terrorists even though I disagree with many of his policies. What do you think would have happened if we just let them badmouth us on the world stage? Would you rather have us appease to the terrorists?


People stood behind us when we went after the terrorists. Most of the world had problems with us when we... excuse me, when BUSH started using terrorism as an excuse to take care of his own personal oil and power grabbing agenda.

Oh, and you don't bomb cities because somebody badmouthed you. That's just juvenile.

Originally posted by Frankidealist35
reply to post by mind is the universe



Terrorists? So you don't believe Al-quaeda is a threat?

So you don't believe in a war on terror?

You believe 9-11 was caused by our Government to take control of the world?


In answer to those questions...

1. No. Al-Qeada's only as big a threat as its CIA backers make it out to be.

2. No. No such war has ever been waged; I merely see a war on foreign sovereignty.

3. Yes. If, in fact, the attack was carried out under the leadership of Osama bin Laden, then it was under the leadership of a known CIA operative.

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Frank, enough. You're making my country look bad. I just hope the people who are badmouthing my entire country because of the ignorance you're displaying right now will quickly realize that you are very much alone in your opinions over here.


reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 06:51 PM by Unlimitedpossibilities
reply to post by sunny_2008ny



I would put my money on it that this was a ploy from the elites for the masses to see and say, "Hey look! This is why we need Obama as President! Someone who is friendly and just."

Or it could be that just no one likes him. Either way, it makes our current representative look horrible and helps to make Obama look more appealing as the next president.

Anyways...ttyl


reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 06:58 PM by Unlimitedpossibilities
reply to post by HIFIGUY



Ahh yes. Should have gone to the last page. Hmmm. Star for you.

Maybe what I said was not all true then since seeing that video debunk but still. I wonder why CNN would not look more into that occurrence? They always seemed to be unbias to me. Maybe not.

[edit on 21-11-2008 by Unlimitedpossibilities]
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