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Call to Kenyan Ambassador says Obama was born in Kenya


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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 05:21 AM by southern_Guardian


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So judging by your post you dont want to counter directly what I posted above... I guess Ill move on then.



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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 05:36 AM by DJMessiah


Originally posted by stumason
Someone please explain why his birth place is significant.


To be President, you have to be a US citizen, and also be born on US soil.

The law is very racist, and from what it seems, it was put in place so that foreigners could have no chance in being President, even if they've spent all but 1 day of their life here, and that one day being born elsewhere.



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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 05:42 AM by stumason


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John McCain was born outside of the US, yet he is considered a natural born American citizen, so I ask again:

How does his place of birth affect his citizenship if born to American parents? Or does it only apply to black people?



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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 06:40 AM by czacza


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it is not a problem that he was born outside US but that he is a puppet in the hands of those who will "produce" his us birth certificate. even if he is a "good" guy he is not able to make "his" politics anyway.

Obama will be not the independent president as Kennedy was trying to be (well even he had his mafia connections but still trying to do his own politics).

and to be honest I do not find Obama the innocent guy with will to change the us and world for better. he is inside deep enough already.



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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 07:29 AM by rakillah


Wow, i can tell that some people had skipped to the last post and then replied instead of reading the whole thread. I still see some people saying that Certificate of Live Birth is not a Birth Certificate, but yet i have produced my son's document to show a "few of the sheep" here that they are the same, some states call it different. Now, ask yourself the Question, if a state law states that in the state of (insert state) this document is legal and supported by national law that any state's legal document is in fact the legal document to use in the USA, why would a person even say it's not the same document just because it's labeled different????

Here is my son's certificate again, just in case you forgot to look at it.



Now does that make it not a birth certificate, just because it says Live Birth instead...nooooo, it the same document. Anyone from Maryland can tell you that.



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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 08:45 AM by anonymousATS


Originally posted by DJMessiah
Originally posted by stumason
Someone please explain why his birth place is significant.


To be President, you have to be a US citizen, and also be born on US soil.

The law is very racist, and from what it seems, it was put in place so that foreigners could have no chance in being President, even if they've spent all but 1 day of their life here, and that one day being born elsewhere.




No, it's not rascist. It's a law set up to ensure a homogenous culture. It was given to us by a pro-US culture. But I can understand why you think the way you do on this subject.

The act of different cultures coming together under a common language and culture (perhaps not legally but functionally) is what made us strong. The current recent practice of multiculturalism and flooding the country with non-assimilating foreigners is a practice designed to weaken and fragment our country. We are not raising these foreign people up -- the sheer volume of these foreigners guarantees that we are watching this nation being destroying from within.



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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 11:19 AM by Chris Thantos


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I never said they receive a FBI background check and did state that agencies do not view other agency clearances as active. But they do in fact go through a background check to receive a clearance.

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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 11:24 AM by Ign0rant


Great find OP, I don't know where the MSM will take it from here. They have been good at dodging the topic.

-Ign0RanT



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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 11:32 AM by Loki


Everyone is making a big deal about the "Certificate of Live Birth"

I don't know about your states, but in mine, and in the one I was born in, the Cert of Natural Birth cannot be re-issued after birth. The state issues a cert of live birth. In fact, two years ago I had to order one because my mother lost mine. In the mail, I recieved a document that looked quite similar to Obama's birth certificate. Does that mean I was not born in the US? Not hardly.

Just consider that.



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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 01:51 PM by LittlePinky82


Originally posted by arizonascott
reply to post by -zeropoint-



Why, when Obama is picking every single new world order member he left behind in the election. What's he gonna change, nothing.

Another 4-8 years of suffering and job loss

Fooled again by the fake two party paradigm

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LOL hon come on he hasn't even been sworn in yet. Good grief. At least wait a while.



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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 01:56 PM by LittlePinky82


Originally posted by Spectre0o0
why is it that everyone who questions obama is a nutjob?
why is it that the california electoral college is going to hold the vote ?
why is it that someone would want a person who is not qualified to run the country?
why is it that obama has to produce the original birth certificate to the courts by dec 1st?
why is it that now everyone in kenya is a lunatic conspiracy participant?
what are obama supporters so scared of?
why is it that obama supporters don't know the difference between a certificate of live birth and a birth certificate?
why is it they won't find out?
why is it that he just won't release it? after all, he did release information from a top secret briefing with the president.
why do i have to keep answering these questions and pointing out they are very easy to quell?

why is it he got elected in the first place? EXPERIENCE?????????

GO ON , PULL THE OTHER ONE!!!!!!!!!!!

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1) It's not that you are questioning it's what you are questioning. Doy.

2) Hon lots of people have been elected who people claimed weren't qualified. He is qualified according to the Constitution of the U.S. There's no standard test to be president in the Constitution. Doy. Get over it. Maybe you should try reading that eh?

3) Just because YOU might think he is unqualified doesn't mean other people do. Obviously majority of the people thought differently then you. John McCain was qualified? Now that's a joke!

4) Obama supporters do. Doy.

5) Maybe you should go and actually read what the ambassador said. As someone else pointed out the ambassador said Barack Obama senior. That would not be the president-elect hon.

6) Maybe because your question's are already answered and everyone has better things to do than repeat themselves a million times and to moron question's.



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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 02:02 PM by LittlePinky82


Originally posted by unnamedninja
I dont know about anyone else here, but I'm only 29 years old and my birth certificate has turned yellow and looks like it's about to fall apart. Mr Obama sure has taken good care of that thing. Printed on nice modern weave paper too.


You're kidding right? I'm twenty-six and mine is still nice and the same as the day I was born. Of course it's wrinkled and all that but it's still very nice and neat. I keep mine in the original envelope in a safe place. So I guess mine must be a fake too?



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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 02:16 PM by LittlePinky82


Originally posted by czacza
reply to post by stumason



it is not a problem that he was born outside US but that he is a puppet in the hands of those who will "produce" his us birth certificate. even if he is a "good" guy he is not able to make "his" politics anyway.

Obama will be not the independent president as Kennedy was trying to be (well even he had his mafia connections but still trying to do his own politics).

and to be honest I do not find Obama the innocent guy with will to change the us and world for better. he is inside deep enough already.




OMFG he hasn't even been sworn in as president yet! At least let him get started on things before you make these wild claims.



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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 03:21 PM by Loki


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McCain was born on a Military base, different from the alleged conditions of Obama's birth.



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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 05:27 PM by phillyhemp


Let me say first that I know Philip Berg personally and I think he's on to something. Obama could end all this by producing his birth certificate, but he has not done so. As far as the Annenberg site (Obama's palss from Chicago way back when) and the site which posted the original COLB forgery, they are immediately suspect because of their bias.

The most accurate information was the israeliinsider investigation. Not only do they set forth the obvious forgeries to the Live Birth (african-american was not the term used on BCs in 1961, negro was, thus Obama's father's race is incorrect) to the more tecnical ones. Here is some of the links.

web.israelinsider.com...


parts one through five are at the bottom. Now if the person who created the COLB admits it's a fake, then why should we trust Daiy KOS. Check out Atlas Shrugged for more information.

As far as all you sheeple who put the cart b4 the horse, i.e. how could he get past the FBI and all the other fact checkers. PLEASE! How did they pull off 9-11 or the patriot act? If you don't believe that 9-11 was an inside job, you are a complete moron. Seriously. But I digress, if the money masters want you in power. They will try to make it happen. There is a long history of people with Obama's pedigree being used by the power elite. Check out those mind-control slaves raised without a father-figure, or with a father-figure with pedifile tendecies. We know that Obama's father figure fits this pattern.

The bottom line is this: We have a President that listed his nationality as Indonesian on a school registrar (at a time when there was no dual citizenship), relatives that are claiming he was born in Kenya, a sister who names two different hospitals, etc. THERE ARE LEGIT QUESTIONS HERE. So to all of you who are criticizing me and others, back up your view with facts. I feel that the israeli web site slays anything you could possibly provide. He is 100% not a natural born citizen.



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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 06:37 PM by maybereal11


reply to post by phillyhemp



You are dead wrong on all counts.

This call was bunk… He was referring to Obama's father
See my thread posts...that (thread) button at the bottom of this post

Ditto His GM saying the same..she was talking about his father.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

His dual citizenship issue is explained in perfect detail here on this thread..along with most other issues regarding this BS. Again see my thread posts and look for the court ruling from freerepublic.



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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 08:45 PM by LittlePinky82


Originally posted by Loki
reply to post by stumason



McCain was born on a Military base, different from the alleged conditions of Obama's birth.


I could be wrong but I heard he was actually born in a hospital off the military base. However wasn't the Canal at the time entirely controlled by the U.S.? So if that's the case it wouldn't matter if it was in a U.S. military hospital or not I think.



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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 08:46 PM by LittlePinky82


Originally posted by phillyhemp
Let me say first that I know Philip Berg personally and I think he's on to something. Obama could end all this by producing his birth certificate, but he has not done so. As far as the Annenberg site (Obama's palss from Chicago way back when) and the site which posted the original COLB forgery, they are immediately suspect because of their bias.

The most accurate information was the israeliinsider investigation. Not only do they set forth the obvious forgeries to the Live Birth (african-american was not the term used on BCs in 1961, negro was, thus Obama's father's race is incorrect) to the more tecnical ones. Here is some of the links.

web.israelinsider.com...


parts one through five are at the bottom. Now if the person who created the COLB admits it's a fake, then why should we trust Daiy KOS. Check out Atlas Shrugged for more information.

As far as all you sheeple who put the cart b4 the horse, i.e. how could he get past the FBI and all the other fact checkers. PLEASE! How did they pull off 9-11 or the patriot act? If you don't believe that 9-11 was an inside job, you are a complete moron. Seriously. But I digress, if the money masters want you in power. They will try to make it happen. There is a long history of people with Obama's pedigree being used by the power elite. Check out those mind-control slaves raised without a father-figure, or with a father-figure with pedifile tendecies. We know that Obama's father figure fits this pattern.

The bottom line is this: We have a President that listed his nationality as Indonesian on a school registrar (at a time when there was no dual citizenship), relatives that are claiming he was born in Kenya, a sister who names two different hospitals, etc. THERE ARE LEGIT QUESTIONS HERE. So to all of you who are criticizing me and others, back up your view with facts. I feel that the israeli web site slays anything you could possibly provide. He is 100% not a natural born citizen.




Prove it please. You haven't proven YOUR claims. Where's the proof of them? Bull#. Oh and what the hell makes this Israeli website any more credible? And I could give two #s if you personally know this person. Doesn't mean a damn in the internet world.

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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 11:00 PM by MoothyKnight


Never mind dleet post plz

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