Call to Kenyan Ambassador says Obama was born in Kenya

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Why, when Obama is picking every single new world order member he left behind in the election. What's he gonna change, nothing.

Another 4-8 years of suffering and job loss

Fooled again by the fake two party paradigm

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one mans conspiracy is another mans junk as I always say.

Lets wait a year for the man to be in office before we proclaim anything.

no, I think you have to produce that on demand. and since it would have taken 2 seconds to do that... why did Mr. Obama take this road ... and he is still fighting to produce his birth certificate... just produce the document ... some lengths... yea, stupid huh...

reply to post by BornPatriot

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How many times do we have to go over this. He has produced it. Why do people insist that he has not?

Not necessarily. You're right about how he must have had powerful people helping him to where he is now, if he wasn't born in the USA.

But those same powerful people want to destroy the USA. Obama getting the boot at this stage would accomplish that.

Because it was not in the script. Bush, Clintons and Obama all have the same puppet master.

They simply do as they're told. So, Hillary probably wasn't told to mention it.

And why has Ron Paul not used his millions to prove it?

I dont know about anyone else here, but I'm only 29 years old and my birth certificate has turned yellow and looks like it's about to fall apart. Mr Obama sure has taken good care of that thing. Printed on nice modern weave paper too.

I don't believe the grandmother story. Did you see how happy those people were in Kenya on election day. Why would anybody form there including Obama's grandmother say he is not legally eligible to be the president of the United States? If I was from Kenya and I watched his birth I would be claiming it never happened.

And an Ambassador Kenya? Ya... he has nothing to gain... How would he even know anyways? How could he have any more proof than Hawaii dose of someone being born there over 40 years ago. Dose he have a birth certificate too? Hope he enjoys his 15 seconds on camera.

why is it that everyone who questions obama is a nutjob?
why is it that the california electoral college is going to hold the vote ?
why is it that someone would want a person who is not qualified to run the country?
why is it that obama has to produce the original birth certificate to the courts by dec 1st?
why is it that now everyone in kenya is a lunatic conspiracy participant?
what are obama supporters so scared of?
why is it that obama supporters don't know the difference between a certificate of live birth and a birth certificate?
why is it they won't find out?
why is it that he just won't release it? after all, he did release information from a top secret briefing with the president.
why do i have to keep answering these questions and pointing out they are very easy to quell?

why is it he got elected in the first place? EXPERIENCE?????????

GO ON , PULL THE OTHER ONE!!!!!!!!!!!

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Everybody who posts nutjob conspiracies against overwhelming evidence will be labelled a nutjob, regardless.



I dont understand, can you please elaberate? Send a source and tell us how this relates to Obamas natural born citizenship?



The description of "experience" at the end of the day goes down to the individual, and partisan bickering of course. The constitution thankfully gives us the freedom to judge what is experience and what not. I believe Obama is experienced enough and at the same time I recognize that if we are not going to get the same old face into the presidency, it would have to be somebody relatively new as well. So I disagree with you on that one.

a) More experience doesnt necessarily equate to a good presidency, i.e Bush jnr and Bush snr (92'), Bob dole, Nixon, and Carter.

b) Palin is the least experienced and most uninformed VP candidate in history to the entire populatione accepting for the conservative base. She would have been only a few 72year old heart beats away from the presidency. I think I'll stick with Obama.



He doesnt have to produce his long form birth certificate. Every defendant has to respond as it is a regular process in every court preceeding, no matter how the ruling ends in favour or the evidence. In addition his produced the short form of his actualy birth certificate and the mans been running for two years under the scope of all the rival campaigns, the Bush administration and the CIA/NSA/FBI organisations. They already did a run up check on him and already viewd his long for birth certificate.

Get off these neo-conservative apologist blogs and get real.



-Why are you more willing to believe what some mystery individual in an politically slanted blog says as opposed to state officials and the factcheckers websites?

-Why are you ready to believe what some random woman on an audio tape says with no real verification on who she is, no evidence stacked up and why is it that this same blog is claiming Obamas 3rd estranged former step mother to be his actual grandmother? You know they are different right?

-Why do you believe what some guy claiming to be a kenyan ambassador has to say in what is probably one of the poorest poverty stricken corrupt nations in the world? Why dont you get a clue that certain folks are taking advantage of Obamas win by claiming this and that for tourist attractions.

Why do you continue making excuses when the evidence mounts against? What are you running from?



Judging by the sources of the threads and the nature of those posting these rightwing rumors, what are mccain supporters so afraid of? Why cant you deal with an Obama win?



Why is it that you dont get the fact a certificate of live birth is the same as a birth certificate, that its just a matter of short form and a long form, yet they are one in the same. Why do you continue to make excuses?



What are you really afraid of? Why do you find it so hard to admit that he will be your president for the next 4-8years?



What a wonderful way of displaying "self confidence" over the subject.

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I don't care If he was born in Ranchokenyochicagokawi....my new president Barrack Heusen Obama is walking into a #-storm. If we don't stop this petty BS(blame the neocons for this, blame the libs for that) ...we are screwed.

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kool aid injestion complete. and soooo close to the anniversary.
so to want the answer to a justifiable question is lunatic. oooookkk
i didn't say experienced...i said qualified,as in constitutionally.(you know,those three little rules you despise so much that allow you to become POTUS)
and of course you dont understand about the electoral college. that would mean that you understood that there are alot of people now questioning this situation,WANTING PROOF.
so take the blue pill,sit back,and see how it comes out...you may get what you asked for!!!!!
oh,and why is my vault copy different from my short bc? I HAVE BOTH IN MY POSSESSION. THEY ARE FAR FROM THE SAME. ever ask for your vault copy? guess not...sooo...why don't cha?
oh and here's you link you requested...oops
electoral suit

and hannatong,you better care where your leader is from. you're handing him the keys to your country. thats the military,our economy,our nuclear arsenal,our defense,and our rights,to mention a few . do you want someone from another country with that power? i'm not saying he does,but in today's political climate,would it be so far fetched for some with another agenda to grasp power? don't forget ,he just made one of the presidents of the federal reserve his secretary of the treasury.
this is not a move that is good for my country.

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Let 'us' all agree to disagree.

Born in Kenya or not, he has quite the plate in front of him (no pun intended) (seriously).

Till next time, Folks,
I gotta get these points up to 20?

-=TheMeanSeen=-

AH... DANG, & DARN IT!

I thought I needed 20 points, not 20 posts, to send out U2U's to people.

LOL, I guess this is one step closer.

Sincere apologies for your wasted seconds.

Thanks,

-=TheMeanSeen=-

he doesn't get to get a plate at the picnic table if he wasnt born on the farm.
this effects the rest of your life and mine.
why shouldn't we be sure?
how many people do you know that say no to the policeman when he asks for your license?
this is the same thing only infinitly more important.

do me a favor. watch the way he uses his hands in speeches before he was elected, and then even the acceptance speech, and subsequent speeches,then ask redhatty why. i think you will find it interesting...i did.

Gee... you sourced this information from free republic... why dont I go to the "progressive movement" blog and post a thread about how Palin is really man? Alan keyes is joke... seriously I just had this discussion in another thread. Alan keyes has plenty of personal reasons to launch a lawsuit against Obama. When he ran against Obama in a bitter campaign for the senate in 04' the man lost, badly, and not to mention he was exposed for unlawfully taking campaign money for personal use.

Get this, Andy Martin is also making a lawsuit against Obama in conjunction with keyes this is a bigger joke because this guy also claimed Obama was a muslim (even though religion is a choice and a committment) the changed his mind and all of a sudden began to claim that Obamas real father is Frank Marshall Davis, an african american journalist, an american natural born citizen.
rawstory.com...
However wrong this claim would be, its highly contradictary for it would make Obama a natural born eitherway because both his parents were natural born. Now his suing that Obama isnt a natural born what the heck is going on with the rightwing?!?

And what did you say earlier?


and straight from the ultra-conservative website you get your "sources" from:



Doesnt seem like any request for his birth certificate. Get your facts straight, even when referencing from slanted sources.

Now bergs case was dismissed for obvious reasons, the man lacked any grounds or standing to sue the president elect and in addition is the serious lack of evidence. The judge was quoted as saying bergs case was far fetched and outlandish and this is why it was dismissed. Keyes and the rest of the rightwing nutjob gang offer no more than berg, and theirs will be dismissed in due time.

By the way I am yet to see you actually counter my post above.

If you want to jump on the bandwagon of rightwing conspiracy whackjobs, go right ahead, just check the luggage before you do so.

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I don't understand the problem. Why does it matter where he is born? He is the son of an American citizen isn't he, so that makes him an American by birth surely? Not like Arnie, who cannot be President as he was naturalised.

Just because you might be born in another country, it doesn't make you a citizen of that country. One of my brothers and one of my sisters were born in Germany when my father was stationed there, but they are not German citizens, they are British!!

Someone please explain why his birth place is significant.

reply to post by southern_Guardian

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PUT A BLINDFOLD ON THAT AVATAR you have no leg to stand on when it comes to
'giving my candidate,who i voted for a pass on most sacred foundation,our country is founded on.
how many elections have you been privy to? this wouldn't be your first as a voter,would it??????
you have your right to your opinion,i have a right to mine. the only thing you need to do is to learn how to research,before you go all emotional. you cant decide whats right for our country,if you just stop at the stuff you like. i spend almost 40 hours a week looking things up,i sdont care where it leads me.
i will ask it again...if he has lied to get where he is,will you still give him your alliegence? wil you be mad,will you be disrought,OR WILL YOU FOLOW HIM BLINDLY,AS YOUR POST SUGGESTS?

PS.PLEASE FURNISH ME WITH ONE REASON WE SHOULDN'T BE SURE.