no, I think you have to produce that on demand. and since it would have taken 2 seconds to do that... why did Mr. Obama take this road ... and he is still fighting to produce his birth certificate... just produce the document ... some lengths... yea, stupid huh...

Originally posted by Solomons
And lets just say *hypothetically* hes not a natural born citizen of the USA...there must have been some pretty powerful people behind the scenes to get him this far...so even if all this si true...doesnt mean diddly squat,he will still be president.

Not necessarily. You're right about how he must have had powerful people helping him to where he is now, if he wasn't born in the USA.

But those same powerful people want to destroy the USA. Obama getting the boot at this stage would accomplish that.

Originally posted by LittlePinky82
One thing I always say about this: if it's true why didn't the Clinton's use this during the primaries?

Because it was not in the script. Bush, Clintons and Obama all have the same puppet master.

They simply do as they're told. So, Hillary probably wasn't told to mention it.

Originally posted by NuclearPaul

Originally posted by LittlePinky82
One thing I always say about this: if it's true why didn't the Clinton's use this during the primaries?

Because it was not in the script. Bush, Clintons and Obama all have the same puppet master.

They simply do as they're told. So, Hillary probably wasn't told to mention it.

And why has Ron Paul not used his millions to prove it?

I dont know about anyone else here, but I'm only 29 years old and my birth certificate has turned yellow and looks like it's about to fall apart. Mr Obama sure has taken good care of that thing. Printed on nice modern weave paper too.

I don't believe the grandmother story. Did you see how happy those people were in Kenya on election day. Why would anybody form there including Obama's grandmother say he is not legally eligible to be the president of the United States? If I was from Kenya and I watched his birth I would be claiming it never happened.

And an Ambassador Kenya? Ya... he has nothing to gain... How would he even know anyways? How could he have any more proof than Hawaii dose of someone being born there over 40 years ago. Dose he have a birth certificate too? Hope he enjoys his 15 seconds on camera.

why is it that everyone who questions obama is a nutjob?
why is it that the california electoral college is going to hold the vote ?
why is it that someone would want a person who is not qualified to run the country?
why is it that obama has to produce the original birth certificate to the courts by dec 1st?
why is it that now everyone in kenya is a lunatic conspiracy participant?
what are obama supporters so scared of?
why is it that obama supporters don't know the difference between a certificate of live birth and a birth certificate?
why is it they won't find out?
why is it that he just won't release it? after all, he did release information from a top secret briefing with the president.
why do i have to keep answering these questions and pointing out they are very easy to quell?

why is it he got elected in the first place? EXPERIENCE?????????

GO ON , PULL THE OTHER ONE!!!!!!!!!!!

[edit on 22-11-2008 by Spectre0o0]

Originally posted by Spectre0o0
why is it that everyone who questions obama is a nutjob?

Everybody who posts nutjob conspiracies against overwhelming evidence will be labelled a nutjob, regardless.

why is it that the california electoral college is going to hold the vote ?

I dont understand, can you please elaberate? Send a source and tell us how this relates to Obamas natural born citizenship?

why is it that someone would want a person who is not qualified to run the country?

The description of "experience" at the end of the day goes down to the individual, and partisan bickering of course. The constitution thankfully gives us the freedom to judge what is experience and what not. I believe Obama is experienced enough and at the same time I recognize that if we are not going to get the same old face into the presidency, it would have to be somebody relatively new as well. So I disagree with you on that one.

a) More experience doesnt necessarily equate to a good presidency, i.e Bush jnr and Bush snr (92'), Bob dole, Nixon, and Carter.

b) Palin is the least experienced and most uninformed VP candidate in history to the entire populatione accepting for the conservative base. She would have been only a few 72year old heart beats away from the presidency. I think I'll stick with Obama.

why is it that obama has to produce the original birth certificate to the courts by dec 1st?

He doesnt have to produce his long form birth certificate. Every defendant has to respond as it is a regular process in every court preceeding, no matter how the ruling ends in favour or the evidence. In addition his produced the short form of his actualy birth certificate and the mans been running for two years under the scope of all the rival campaigns, the Bush administration and the CIA/NSA/FBI organisations. They already did a run up check on him and already viewd his long for birth certificate.

Get off these neo-conservative apologist blogs and get real.

why is it that now everyone in kenya is a lunatic conspiracy participant?

-Why are you more willing to believe what some mystery individual in an politically slanted blog says as opposed to state officials and the factcheckers websites?

-Why are you ready to believe what some random woman on an audio tape says with no real verification on who she is, no evidence stacked up and why is it that this same blog is claiming Obamas 3rd estranged former step mother to be his actual grandmother? You know they are different right?

-Why do you believe what some guy claiming to be a kenyan ambassador has to say in what is probably one of the poorest poverty stricken corrupt nations in the world? Why dont you get a clue that certain folks are taking advantage of Obamas win by claiming this and that for tourist attractions.

Why do you continue making excuses when the evidence mounts against? What are you running from?

what are obama supporters so scared of?

Judging by the sources of the threads and the nature of those posting these rightwing rumors, what are mccain supporters so afraid of? Why cant you deal with an Obama win?

why is it that obama supporters don't know the difference between a certificate of live birth and a birth certificate?

Why is it that you dont get the fact a certificate of live birth is the same as a birth certificate, that its just a matter of short form and a long form, yet they are one in the same. Why do you continue to make excuses?

why is it they won't take the time to find out?

What are you really afraid of? Why do you find it so hard to admit that he will be your president for the next 4-8years?

why is it he got elected in the first place? EXPERIENCE?????????

GO ON , PULL THE OTHER ONE!!!!!!!!!!!

What a wonderful way of displaying "self confidence" over the subject.

[edit on 22-11-2008 by southern_Guardian]

I don't care If he was born in Ranchokenyochicagokawi....my new president Barrack Heusen Obama is walking into a #-storm. If we don't stop this petty BS(blame the neocons for this, blame the libs for that) ...we are screwed.

Let 'us' all agree to disagree.

Born in Kenya or not, he has quite the plate in front of him (no pun intended) (seriously).

Till next time, Folks,
I gotta get these points up to 20?

-=TheMeanSeen=-

AH... DANG, & DARN IT!

I thought I needed 20 points, not 20 posts, to send out U2U's to people.

LOL, I guess this is one step closer.

Sincere apologies for your wasted seconds.

Thanks,

-=TheMeanSeen=-

he doesn't get to get a plate at the picnic table if he wasnt born on the farm.
this effects the rest of your life and mine.
why shouldn't we be sure?
how many people do you know that say no to the policeman when he asks for your license?
this is the same thing only infinitly more important.

do me a favor. watch the way he uses his hands in speeches before he was elected, and then even the acceptance speech, and subsequent speeches,then ask redhatty why. i think you will find it interesting...i did.

I don't understand the problem. Why does it matter where he is born? He is the son of an American citizen isn't he, so that makes him an American by birth surely? Not like Arnie, who cannot be President as he was naturalised.

Just because you might be born in another country, it doesn't make you a citizen of that country. One of my brothers and one of my sisters were born in Germany when my father was stationed there, but they are not German citizens, they are British!!

Someone please explain why his birth place is significant.