Well I was born in Puerto Rico which is an US territory and currently serve in the AF when they did my background investigation I presnt them the only thing that I know as a birth certificate and no where in my BC states the name of the doctor, who was present, the time and none of that non sense.

It just says my name, those of my parents and the town that I was born. Thats all the information that you would find in an official BC from where I come from. Is it different in Hawaii?

We will never know if Bush really was involved in 9-11.
Likewise, we will never know if Obama was really born in the US.

good grief...not another birth certificate thread....

lol

you guys are so pathetic

this is beyond entertaining to watch these new threads daily

almost like you guys are trolling

A Kenyan Ambassador ? Which one? LOL...Just any Ambassador?

Obama born in Kenya?

LOL. He was born in Hawaii.

I mean he can't be born in both places, LOL! There is a Newspaper from Hawaii that says Barrack Hussein Obama, born today, 1964.(insert year he was born)

So it's just making me scratch my head that you guys can't seem to let this go. Everyday you have some loan rangers trying to knock down doors on ATS like we know where Obama was born...

It's pretty sad and honestly I'm losing respect for this place.

I can't wait to see the first thread on whether Obama is REALLY black. Has he submitted sufficient information to prove this?

[edit on 21-11-2008 by tyranny22]

Constitutional Crisis for 200 Alex.

Originally posted by tyranny22
I can't wait to see the first thread on whether Obama is REALLY black. Has he submitted sufficient information to prove this?

[edit on 21-11-2008 by tyranny22]

yea

Yes his not really black! his mothers white! therefor his ineligable to be the first black president He also acts to white!

Obama has produced a birth certificate. You people seriously need to get over this and your loss of control. How many people here have their original birth certificate? Anyone? Nobody in my house I can guarantee you that. A certified copy of your birth certificate from your county of birth is absolute proof of birth. Obama needs to provide nothing else to satisfy the disgruntled nuts in this country. A certified copy is 100% proof in all affairs and you won't find a judge in this country that won't accept it as 100% proof in court.

These nuts just need to go away and lick their wounds and try again in 4 years.

Originally posted by nyk537
There is so much garbage flying around about this right now, I don't know what to believe.

I don't care which way this ends up going, Obama needs to step and submit his documents for verification.

This country is in too big of a mess right now to have to deal with this crap. We need to find a way to get together, not tear each other apart.

If Obama would just man up and provide evidence we could end this mess and get started fixing the country.

The country is in too big of a mess right now to even bother with the triviality of some document's submission... We know he is a natural born citizen. That fact is enough, whether he was born in Kenya or not.

And come on guys... this is obviously just a lame idea for a kind of tourist trap. What else can Kenya claim to have produced except for the first black president of the United States?

[edit on 21-11-2008 by cognoscente]

Originally posted by loam

Hello, President Pelosi!!!

Dang, knowing how politicians are in California and knowing how California is being run into the ground.....

Maybe this issue should quietly disappear....

I live in Detroit, And listen to the wrif show most mornings. It was most likely a phone scam, they do them all the time.

Originally posted by SpaDe_

Originally posted by duffster
When i think about this question it brings up so many more questions???

Think about it they spend so much money to get him into office and I'm sure they would have done a search on him WAY before he started to run (we might not like the gov but they are not stupid)

Or they have planed this from the very start and want this to help push people over the edge People will riot and this will give them the reason to take away the guns and so on.

Some are starting to question if even Obama himself was unaware that his certificate of live birth did not satisfy the requirements of a birth certificate. Think about this, if your whole life you assumed that you were born inside the US, or you assumed you were a US citizen then would you even question that you were not?

I have wondered if Obama had spent his entire life under the assumption that he was a natural born citizen, but only recently realized that he was not when all these statement and lawsuits started coming out.

It is not just a question of if he is a certain type of citizen, it is a question if he is an American at ALL. He could end up being deported, after he serves his sentence.

Originally posted by thejinkafter 24 years, i found out, by a pissed off, drunken cousin, that my parents were NOT my parents.

A similar family situation happened to a friend of mine. He was an "only child" for 35 years. His Mom broke down one day and admitted she had another baby when he was little, but couldn't financially handle a 2nd child, and gave her up for adoption. It wasn't until he was 35 yrs old that he finally met a sister he never knew he had. So it wouldn't surprise me if Obama's Mom kept this "secret" from him as well for so many years.

Originally posted by Indy
Obama has produced a birth certificate. You people seriously need to get over this and your loss of control. How many people here have their original birth certificate? Anyone? Nobody in my house I can guarantee you that. A certified copy of your birth certificate from your county of birth is absolute proof of birth. Obama needs to provide nothing else to satisfy the disgruntled nuts in this country. A certified copy is 100% proof in all affairs and you won't find a judge in this country that won't accept it as 100% proof in court.

I agree, that a judge presented with credible evidence will accept it. Then tell me, why is the Supreme Court demanding he present evidence by Dec. 1st? You 'people' seriously need to get over this and realize that it has NOT been proven to anyones satisfaction. I seriously doubt that the Supreme Court would disqualify this man, even if he is proven to be an illegal alien, but if they do just that, it could be used to instigate mass rioting, the declaring of martial law, and the dismanteling of our government. Bush would become 'president' for life. This is a law that was passed during the height of the cold war, under Reagan. Now all he needs is a big problem. Maybe even also nuking a city under a false flag, like they did Oklahoma City, 9/11, and the JFK assassination, among others. You saw how they made the nuke 'disappear' a few months ago.

These nuts just need to go away and lick their wounds and try again in 2 weeks.