s&f, i wanna see how this one goes.

lots of lies goin around no matter what the truth is. this is gonna be good.

Is the Kenyan ambassador willing to back up his words with documents? If so, Obama could be in a world of trouble.

Kenya would have a lot to gain by misleading people and saying that Obama was born there but it does seem far-fetched that they would do that and risk exposing Obama as not being qualified to be President.

Should be interesting to see how this plays out.

Jemison

There is so much garbage flying around about this right now, I don't know what to believe.

I don't care which way this ends up going, Obama needs to step and submit his documents for verification.

This country is in too big of a mess right now to have to deal with this crap. We need to find a way to get together, not tear each other apart.

If Obama would just man up and provide evidence we could end this mess and get started fixing the country.

If the guy was lying, he should of waited until after obama has settled in to office, before saying this. WHether true or not, like above says it will bring alot of tourism, they would assume to his supposed birth place.

Whether he was born in kenya or hawaii, will we ever find out???

I thought he had already shown his certificate numerous times? surely before even being allowed to try for potus these checks must be made? And lets just say *hypothetically* hes not a natural born citizen of the USA...there must have been some pretty powerful people behind the scenes to get him this far...so even if all this si true...doesnt mean diddly squat,he will still be president.

When i think about this question it brings up so many more questions???

Think about it they spend so much money to get him into office and I'm sure they would have done a search on him WAY before he started to run (we might not like the gov but they are not stupid)

Or they have planed this from the very start and want this to help push people over the edge People will riot and this will give them the reason to take away the guns and so on.

Originally posted by Solomons
I thought he had already shown his certificate numerous times? surely before even being allowed to try for potus these checks must be made? And lets just say *hypothetically* hes not a natural born citizen of the USA...there must have been some pretty powerful people behind the scenes to get him this far...so even if all this si true...doesnt mean diddly squat,he will still be president.

The certificate that he has submitted is simply a certificate of live birth which is not the same as a birth cirtificate. The birth cirtificate contains much more information such as county, hospital, doctor, etc. What everyone is so up in arms about is at the time Hawaii issued certificates of live birth for any parent requesting one even if the child was born outside of the US.

Lets be quite honest. this country is engaged in some serious apathy and has been for some time. we have had Watergate, Cigar smoking, failing to appear for Congressional Subpoenas etc. No one is ever held to account.

I can see the online poll now, someone like Blitzer most likely:

"Now that it has come out that President-elect Obama was in fact born in a Foreign country do you think the standard should be upheld or should he be allowed to take the office of the Presidency as the Countrys chosen leader"

In general I doubt very seriously that most will even care. no-one knows why he was elected in the first place. He's one of the least qualified persons who would ever take that office.

Look the rule of law is out and I doubt this country is going to try to uphold it now.



[edit on 21-11-2008 by KMFNWO]

Originally posted by duffster
When i think about this question it brings up so many more questions???

Think about it they spend so much money to get him into office and I'm sure they would have done a search on him WAY before he started to run (we might not like the gov but they are not stupid)

Or they have planed this from the very start and want this to help push people over the edge People will riot and this will give them the reason to take away the guns and so on.

Some are starting to question if even Obama himself was unaware that his certificate of live birth did not satisfy the requirements of a birth certificate. Think about this, if your whole life you assumed that you were born inside the US, or you assumed you were a US citizen then would you even question that you were not?

I have wondered if Obama had spent his entire life under the assumption that he was a natural born citizen, but only recently realized that he was not when all these statement and lawsuits started coming out.

Are you sure the call was really to the Ambassador?

It sounds like a "phone scam" that the local DJs do here nearly every morning.

Geez, He managed to trick the entire U.S government into becoming President.

They must've forgot to do their backround check on him.

nice@obama might not know he was born in kenya. lol can anyone say manchurian candidate? the commies are gonna come and eat off everyone's faces while we're sleeping.

Originally posted by Andre Neves
Geez, He managed to trick the entire U.S government into becoming President.

It's staffed with idiots and morons. I'm sure it's not that hard to do.

Example - Barney Frank tricked the entire US Gov't into accepting his word about how wonderful Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae were doing with their home lending. AND he tricked the people into voting for him time and time again.


If Obama would just release his original and authentic BIRTH CERTIFICATE then all this would go away. But he resists and hires teams of lawyers to block that from happening.

ATS Members: In reference to the question of wether Obama is "quaified" to be President, it should be noted that the FBI runs "BI" (background investigations) on anyone who is or is in the process of, securing access to highly classified (above Confidential) information. Since President-elect Obama was granted access during a briefing with President Bush it is highly probable that the BI done by the FBI found no discrepancy in his "qualifications".

Kenya is a very poor place and they want to make the most of this. Honestly I don't blame them but its just a big lie.