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To those who arent sure if they should read gnostic texts....

I think many Christians are afraid to even look up any other source of information about Christ because they fear being called a heretic. It took me 2 to 3 yrs. to realize that I WAS supposed to search, I WAS supposed to seek, I WAS supposed to weigh it all for myself. I can remember searching this kinda information in the beginning of my mind twisted out of its pre impacted thoughts and I would hide in my computer room afraid of what others would think of me. Once I realized it was only God that mattered in what I thought and only God mattered on if I was doing wrong or not, my freedom to my birth right as a divine worthy being became prevalent to me and I no longer cared what my former labeled religious friends would think of me....I lived for God, truly, finally, once and for all.

When I first released this power over me that I HAD to believe the Bible word for word, I realized that the angels were there for me, the Holy Spirit was waiting to show me things. Through dreams and synchronicity, I realized I had found my path and I wasn't alone of the path. I also realized that the works of God were more beautiful and harmonizing then I ever imagined.

Peace,
LV

There are a few thoughts I have for the topic at hand;

I feel that the true religion s the Thousand-Fold Path, for each person has a different route to the peak of the mountain of virtue and enlightenment.

What I cannot agree with is the establishment and the Church. It is astounding how desirable the Church makes Submission and Subservience sound. Each human being is born with the divine spark, but it is no assurance of becoming one with the Divine Creator again. We are stuck in a fatalistic cycle of rebirth, some of us persist for others who have not reached enlightenment, and others are still sleeping in the darkness.

By subsuming your soul in fidelity and subservience to another entity, you squander your vast spiritual potential. Christ's message was to fulfill the promise of that divine spark through overcoming the physical self and escaping from the trap of this world, we are each of us a Prometheus awaiting our chains to be cut while the vultures of materialism and slavery feast on the workings of our spirit.

Truth in Sophia is that we are hers, and she wants us to attain equality in the divine state... not to submit nor to serve, but to become EQUAL.

I have enjoyed reading the thread through, thanks to all who have contributed. I have been thinking about starting to attend Church again, but any church I have ever attended, has, IMO, not concerned itself with the teachings of Christ, but the teaching of others, who, from my understanding, often contradicted the teachings of Christ. A good example would be the seven deadly sins, they seem to have ignored hypocrisy. I guess pride could be considered as arrogance, but I think that there is a clear difference. What Christ taught was that arrogance and hypocrisy were the most evil of vices, but arrogance and hypocrisy seem to be the main elements of most organized religions, and the catholics are among the worst, IMO.

So little of the actual words of Christ are in the bible. If you took out just the quotes of things that Christ is said to have actually spoken, you probably wouldn't have ten pages. To me, the only thing in the bible worth reading are the things that Christ has spoken, as I have found them to be brilliant.

This brings me to the subject of people without souls, that was discussed earlier in the thread. The thing is that in Christ's sermon on the mount, he clearly designated who would go where. Only a few people will inherit the kingdom of heaven, a great many people will inherit the Earth (whatever that means), and a great many people will inherit neither the kingdom of heaven or Earth. It doesn't seem to be a large step to look at those who will not inherit the Kingdom of Heaven or Earth to be people without souls. If memory serves me right, their names are not written in the book of life.

AS far as Christ not being a man of action, he did turn over the tables of the Pharisees in the church. Chirst does point out that there are those who will suffer eternal damnation, and that it will be God who condemns them, so God does punish those who are wrong. As humans, we must be willing to help ourselves, and sometimes that means defending ourselves.

Yes, I am sure that the path of Gnostism is a very rock road, one less travelled. I think I would choose this path over the broad and level path the Catholic church would rather I walk. I suspect the rocky road will lead me to a better place.

I had never known that Gnosticism was actually a branch of Christianity until I read this thread, so thank you very much for bring this to my attention. I will definately have to look further into this way. Wasn't it written that at the end of times, the true religion of God will be revealed?

Well I think this thread forgets a lot of points.


1. There were many different forms of Christianity until the Council of Nicea
2. At the Council of Nicea, the only forms which were given any priority were those which agreed with Roman Traditions (patriarchy, etc)

The Christianity handed down from Rome left a lot of different versions lying on the cutting room floor.

Originally posted by Grandma
I don't believe that what happened a long time ago (albeit wrong) or the dogma's of different churches really matters to Christ. I believe that what matters to him and the Father that the soul learns the mysteries that the Holy Spirit (teacher) all that fills our spiritual bodies.

I see everything as a school. My consciousness is just in this body temporarily as a way of teaching me the difference in good versus evil. Nothing makes a white dot stick out more than a black background.

You can't understand hot without experiencing cold as well. You could always be one or the other, but you could not understand nor truly appreciate what you have without experiencing the other at least once.

This is how we learn the mysteries you speak about. So while evil, and nothing I can agree with - without it we would be ignorant and unable to really understand or appreciate what is given.

So I agree, all that matters is we learn the lesson.

Reincarnation makes a definitive amount of sense if one is to ascribe to there being a Creator Being... otherwise, souls are being born and discarded by the hundreds of thousands every year.

Since I like to think that people HAVE souls, and that the Creator finds each soul to be precious, I think that having do-over's and repeated-lives to make much more sense in a divine context than "Sorry, you get one shot. If you miss, you're out. For eternity in hell."

I honestly think that we're all on our own divine Paths. "The 1,000 Fold Path".

Nobody is wrong.