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Topic started on 21-11-2008 @ 05:55 AM by sunny_2008ny
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Spider spins web in space
edition.cnn.com
 Spider in space 0:46
The international space station is watching a spider to see how it weaves a web in zero gravity. (visit the link for the full news article)
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reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 05:55 AM by sunny_2008ny
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This is a fabulous experiment as to how less intelligent creatures would behave and act in zero gravity. Do they realize that there is no gravity.
Looking at the video it does appear that the spider is weaving its webs normally
What if there are colonies of spiders that are sent for long periods in space. Will we see some genetic mutation that helps them adjust to the space
and gravity or rather lack of it?
edition.cnn.com
(visit the link for the full news article)
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reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 06:00 AM by all2human
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I am glad to see American dollars spent wisely
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reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 06:40 AM by RedGolem
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What if there are colonies of spiders that are sent for long periods in space. Will we see some genetic mutation that helps them adjust to the space
and gravity or rather lack of it?
Yes so it would seem some day we may see giant mutant spiders raining down to conquer the planet. All hail our spider over lords.
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reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 06:42 AM by GetOutOfMyRabbitHole
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Better this and science than Wall Street fatcats and their private jets.
Edited for improper use of a homonym.
[edit on 11/21/2008 by GetOutOfMyRabbitHole]
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reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 06:50 AM by mopusvindictus
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I see a giant spider with a bunch of astronauts caught in it's web circling the Earth for a long, long time.
Let's just hope in time it doesn't figure out how to fly the shuttle.
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reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 06:53 AM by Voxel
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Spider's preflight mission statement:
"This mission is truly a milestone for our species or genus. I'm not sure which. This may be one small warp for spider but it is one giant weave for
spider kind."
Fly's preflight mission statement:
"I'm not sure why I'm here. No one told me what my mission even was. Shouldn't I get some sort of briefing? HEY! Stop pushing! I just want some
GOD DA *inaudible* *scuffle* Help!"
Jon
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reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 07:01 AM by CeltAngel
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I dunno - I was expecting something a little more grand. Spiders can weave gorgeous webs. This one was fairly mundane :-(
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reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 07:11 AM by Nicolas Flamel
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If the whole human race thought like you, we would still be in caves sitting around fires afraid to go out at night. Science brings knowledge and
knowledge is power. Maybe we should stop all science and just send you the money?
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reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 07:12 AM by mopusvindictus
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Please be aware we won't get much from this experiment
The spiders depressed,
It's been around Govt types for weeks
and by now realizes it can't compete with the tangled webs they weave!
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reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 07:17 AM by Nicolas Flamel
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It tells me that some species can adapt to low gravity environments. When and if we ever get off this rock (Earth) we may want to bring species of
animals and plants that will help us build a new ecosystem on other worlds.
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reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 07:25 AM by Runningtobabylon
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sounds like the preqeual to star ship troopers
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reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 07:34 AM by LoneWeasel
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I have to say it is stories like this that make me very depressed about the Space Program. Sure, it's a relatively interesting concept - but actually
one we could simulate fairly easily on Earth, rather than sending a spider into space for.
Anyone who's played any Civ games will know that the best research is done with a clear end goal and strategy in place. You investigate relevant
science on the road to a specific development. What frustrates me is the number of really quite tediously banal investigations that go under the
heading of "increasing our understanding".
When Armstrong talked of that "giant leap for mankind", I bet he didn't imagine we were leaping into a giant vat of bug-related scientific
quicksand like this.
LW
P.S
Originally posted by GetOutOfMyRabbitHole
Edited for improper use of a homonym.
[edit on 11/21/2008 by GetOutOfMyRabbitHole]
This is the best reason for an edit I have ever seen on these boards. Next time I wilfully misuse a gerund, I'm going to make sure I point it out for
all to see. Bad grammar amnesty.
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reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 08:29 AM by sunny_2008ny
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The ways creatures like spiders act in space will help us humans understand better about gravity and effects of non gravity in space on humans. I dont
see us building a Noah' ark very soon because even if animals and insects are transported to lets say Mars, we still need to create an artificial
atmosphere for them.
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reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 09:05 AM by Andre Neves
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Originally posted by all2human
I am glad to see American dollars spent wisely
[edit on 21-11-2008 by all2human]
Didn't know Sarah Palin is a member of the site.
This is just like that meaningless "fruit fly research" you talked about, I kid you not.
P.S, You can't be Sarah. It's impossible. I don't think she could get past the member registration process. Wouldn't figure it out.
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reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 09:16 AM by ziggystar60
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They seem to lose a lot up there at the ISS these days. First the toolbag that went flying into the oblivion of space - and now one of their two
spiders is missing:
Astronauts were hunting for a missing party guest as they prepared to celebrate the tenth anniversary of the International Space Station.
One of two spiders sent to the orbiting laboratory aboard the space shuttle Endeavour last week was added to the lost property list after the crew
checked its tank and found it empty.
Anxious to quash fears that the absent arachnid may be marauding around the space station, Nasa managers insisted that the second orb-weaver was not
exactly lost, it just couldn’t be found.
"We don’t believe that it’s escaped the overall payload enclosure,” assured Kirk Shireman, Nasa’s deputy space station programme manager.
“I’m sure we’ll find him spinning a web sometime here in the next few days,” he added hopefully.
Astronauts suspect that the spider may have simply gone for an impromptu spacewalk into its neighbour’s tank, though the pair were securely sealed
off from one another at launch and were meant to spend their three-month research mission apart.
www.timesonline.co.uk...
Oh well, as long as they don't start losing astronauts too...
Ziggy and the Spiders from Mars
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reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 09:23 AM by Maxmars
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I would like to remind some that spider silk is a remarkable material, worthy of scientific analysis. Material sciences may not have been stated
here, but zero-g silk spinning might produce a silk that is distinct from that spun in normal earth gravity.
It can be productive, but that doesn't mean the scientists and engineers have a clue as how to explain the experiment, making it seem trite and
pointless.
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reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 09:29 AM by Now_Then
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Originally posted by sunny_2008ny
What if there are colonies of spiders that are sent for long periods in space. Will we see some genetic mutation that helps them adjust to the space
and gravity or rather lack of it?
Well I know that the main thing that limits the overall size of insects and arachnids is the level of oxygen in the atmosphere, that's why in
prehistoric times dragonfly's could be the size of albatross, something to do with exoskeletons limiting the respiration in relation to size.
So whack up the oxygen levels, get some bird eating spiders up there in micro G, pump em full of spider steroids and expose em to the radiation up
there and we could have legions of massive spiders to do our bidding.... That wont be able to survive on earth, didn't think this through, well a 6
foot spider could come in useful on the ISS i suppose.
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reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 09:39 AM by ziggystar60
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It may actually be a good idea to take some spiders along in future missions to colonize spade. The spider silk is a remarkable material, both
extremely light and extremely strong, and may come in handy:
Spider silk is a remarkably strong material. Its tensile strength is superior to that of high-grade steel, and as strong as Aramid filaments, such
as Twaron or Kevlar. Most importantly, spider silk is extremely lightweight: a strand of spider silk long enough to circle the earth would weigh less
than 16 ounces (450 g)
en.wikipedia.org...
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reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 10:56 AM by OuttaHere
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Originally posted by LoneWeasel
Originally posted by GetOutOfMyRabbitHole
Edited for improper use of a homonym.
[edit on 11/21/2008 by GetOutOfMyRabbitHole]
This is the best reason for an edit I have ever seen on these boards. Next time I wilfully misuse a gerund, I'm going to make sure I point it out for
all to see. Bad grammar amnesty.
Reading this post, the dangling participle also comes to mind. (Hint: the previous sentence contains a dangling participle.) Always find a good
sentence to put the improper use of a preposition in. And never start a sentence with a conjunction.
LOL.
I doubt this spider is a stowaway, as the CNN commentators suggested. And I agree with a prior post that it would have been WAY, WAY cooler to see an
orb weaver in space.
I wonder if weightlessness will have an impact on the tensile strength/composition of the spider's web?
[edit on 21-11-2008 by OuttaHere]
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