Michael Jackson converts to Islam, page 6

Originally posted by Foppezao

That is not necessary. Not so long ago i've red the whole translation of the wholy Koran and the book of Mohammed by Hassan Alaoui and Mohamed el-Fers..free menin my country..
i've red all the things about An Nisa, al AN 'Faal etc. didnt make me happy, and thats just the normal version, what some Muslims[Saudi's] have done with the Wahhabi version is just demagogy on a massive scale..
I challenge you finding such things about Jezus..[just think about the last words of Jezusand of mohammed]..keep on playing advocate of the devil..I like to hear new wonderfull things about the religion that gives us so much joy everyday!

[edit on 24-11-2008 by Foppezao]

Be careful what you wish for.

In response to the quote, I would say that by the spelling of Qur'aan as he spelled "Koran" he read an orientalist translation of the Qur'aan. Unlike the Bible, it cannot be simply translated by someone who just speaks arabic. Arabic is a very deep language and the Qur'aan is a masterpiece of Arabic literature. It is pure arabic written in away that baffles the mind in terms of its origin (if a non-Muslim). Simply put, the english version does not come near to it. Its hard to explain it, but as a student of the Arabic language it is a very complex and scholarly language. I only rely on one translation, which he probably call the "saudi version." But there is so much he is not telling you. Basically, the interpretation of the Qur'aan is through authentic chains of narration of prophetic Hadith. The Prophet Muhammad was describe by his wife as "the walking Qur'aan." Meaning he is the interpretation of it's meanings. Unlike the bible which has no official interpretation, the Qur'aan can easily defeat newly invented or introduced doctrine or rituals. The 2 authors he mentioned are not known to me, and their Muslim names don't make the authorities on Islam. I would only rely on people who are reputable scholars who cite sources for their interpretation of the understanding of the Qur'aan into english. NOTE: As I was writing this, a quick google search revealed they translated the Qur'aan into dutch which I assume he read.

Lastly, he dared me....

Jesus is quoted to have said:

"Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I came to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and a man’s enemies will be the members of his household. He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me; and he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me. He who has found his life will lose it, and he who has lost his life for My sake will find it." (Matthew 10:34-39)

"49 I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled? 50 But I have a baptism to be baptized with; and how am I straitened till it be accomplished! 51 Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division: 52 For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three. 53 The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. (Luke 12:49-53)

"If anyone comes to Me, and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be My disciple." (Luke 14:26)

And in Luke 22:35-38

"But now, whoever has a money belt is to take it along, likewise also a bag, and whoever has no sword is to sell his coat and buy one." (Luke 22:36 NASB)

And the related Gospel of Thomas 16 (non-canonical) (SV) reads:

"Perhaps people think that I have come to cast peace upon the world. They do not know that I have come to cast conflicts upon the earth: fire, sword, war. For there will be five in a house: there'll be three against two and two against three, father against son and son against father, and they will stand alone."

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