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Topic started on 21-11-2008 @ 02:04 AM by JanusFIN

Kenyan Ambassador plainly admits Obama was born in Kenya and that the location of his birth is "already an attraction" and that a monument may be built there by the government.

www.rense.com...

I have follow this story from the day I first time heard rumor, that there is maybe great constitutional risk in Obama presidency...

Situation has now confirmed in my thoughts many ways, and yep, Obama is probably born outside USA. Now the case is on its way to higher supreme court level:

Donofrio v Obama Citizenship Case Moves To New Supreme Court Level
www.rense.com...

For me its totally same, if there is "black or white cat" in head of "Mouseland." Its still a cat, made from same wood. But question is important. Why they make this plan in first place, and yhey put Obama over their queen, and lead him to the victory of "hope?" They sure did know, that there will come legal constitutional problem... Hmm... Here is my theory >

1. They knew very well, that with Obama they will face constitutional crisis, witch will draw nation even more separate from each others. It will fuel civil unrest and side, witch openly will want to overthrow constitution, to get their hope back...

2. Whole financial crisis is one of the factors, what makes this coming political crisis eminent, because there are lots of revolution minded now, and thats really is the purpose to get to the goal > New World Order and North American Union. Fueling civil unrest and political turmoil, people will defend their constitution, and that gives government rights to attack against population, when they fight against anarchy and civil unrest.

3. Constitutional crisis is needed to shaken that "damn peace of paper" in minds of US citizens. Their hope is now set behind that paper. If constitution goes before the people, Obama will be dismissed prom presidency, and now, in time of this "financial apocalypse" THERE IS MOMENTUM, to over run constitution, and put Obama to presidency, and make first huge step in that beginning process to shut down USA.

4. Everything is on the table now. There can come a time when we see USA without president at all, or then there can come two president at same time, before the real savior is placed to lead. But before that comes a new civil war.

5. This whole show is 50-50 for population, (they force you to choose your side) and win-win for New World Order. (They will finance and support both sides, and after all, they have weaken you so totally, that you will obey your new masters with will) There is no winners in wars of Illuminati.

[edit on 21-11-2008 by JanusFIN]

reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 03:44 AM by paperplanes

The trouble is, it would be quite easy to argue that the Kenyan government has significant ulterior motives to claim that Obama was born on their soil. As the ambassador says, his alleged birthplace is being made into a tourist attraction (read: profit and fame for Kenya). I'm sure they would love to be able to claim their nation as the birthplace of the first black president of the United States (or any U.S. president at all, for that matter).

I'm not suggesting that we can close the book on this case--the question of citizenship undoubtedly needs to be resolved--but we need to look at other possibilities here.

[edit on 21/11/08 by paperplanes]

reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 04:06 AM by Raustin

I am still of the opinion that the birthplace thing needs to be addressed. It's not just me being a sore loser, I think it's important legitimate questions are answered. While I highly doubt Obama was not properly vetted, the fact that so many still question his country of origin is not acceptable. Show us definitive proof, and I will be happy to support our new president. Kind of happy.

I'm just praying he can restore our country to the great nation it once was. Even though I still think it's pretty darn great.

reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 04:14 AM by blaqmyst

Get over it, Damn! The man is the President now and there is nothing you or anyone else can do about it. Direct your energy towards something worth actually researching. It's tired and old.

reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 04:23 AM by Ign0rant

reply to post by blaqmyst

Yet it makes a different because he lied to the America People. How many people want a dishonest president?

-Ign0RanT

reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 04:31 AM by gordonwest

reply to post by blaqmyst

The President of the U.S.A needs to be, and has to be BORN in the United States of America. The Obama supporters are screwing America, making the MEGAPOWER country less of a country. Lets face it, John McCain would of made a better President then Obama ever will, just look at Obama done already? Nothing much. Thank Goodness for the John McCain, and the Republic of the United States of America.

reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 04:34 AM by Merriman Weir

Originally posted by Ign0rant
reply to post by blaqmyst

Yet it makes a different because he lied to the America People. How many people want a dishonest president?

-Ign0RanT

And yet, how many people actually get a choice?

Honest political leaders?

reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 04:34 AM by infinite

Originally posted by gordonwest
just look at Obama done already? Nothing much.

Ermm...he hasn't be sworn into office yet. Pretty difficult to achieve anything when Obama currently is not President. Hence the word "President-elect"

reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 05:36 AM by neformore

The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

Originally posted by Ign0rant

Yet it makes a different because he lied to the America People. How many people want a dishonest president?

Hmm.

Did the "Iraq has WMD's" thing somehow pass you by?

Or did you forget that one?

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.

reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 05:40 AM by Waldy

Dont believe a word you read on rense.com, it is the biggest collection of bulls**t on the internet. And even if he were born in Kenya or even on the moon it wouldnt matter because his mom is American, so get over it already. The man is American ffs!

reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 05:49 AM by FlyersFan

Rense isn't the best source of info - but this subject still needs to be adequately addressed by Obama. Simply releasing his REAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE would put all this to rest. But he doesn't do it. And he fights it. hmmmm .....

reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 06:00 AM by Anonymous ATS

The Electoral College doesnt vote til Dec15th and the Inauguration wont be til Jan 20th. A potential constitutional crisis....especially if a Kenyan Birth Certificate shows up (w doctor signature, finger and foot prints, etc) to trump the Certificate of Live Birth (sans same) from Hawaii.

reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 10:28 AM by Anonymous ATS

Does Rense site lie? Who said WMD in Irag? Who said the bailout was for the public? Certainly not Rense site. When you call Rense site a liar, prove it.

reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 10:44 AM by KATSUO

Originally posted by FlyersFan
Rense isn't the best source of info - but this subject still needs to be adequately addressed by Obama. Simply releasing his REAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE would put all this to rest. But he doesn't do it. And he fights it. hmmmm .....

I agree.. I have read several things on rense that have been Obviously skewed to make a better story..

but this defiantly does need to be addressed...

reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 12:57 PM by infinite

Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
Does Rense site lie? Who said WMD in Irag? Who said the bailout was for the public? Certainly not Rense site. When you call Rense site a liar, prove it.

A few years back, Rense had a story regarding American citizens being kidnapped by some sadistic cult and Mexico was on the verge of invading America.

Rense is about trustworthy as a Michael Jackson babysitting agency.

reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 09:31 PM by Evisscerator

Rense is an ok dude, just a wee bit on the "way out there" side of things.

As far as the Obama citizenship test is concerned, its literally up to the US Supreme Court now, who have infact, ordered OBAMA and the DNC to produce a "Vault Copy" of his US Birth Certificate by December 1st.

If he does not, the US Supreme Court can invalidate his win of the popular vote and declare the win NULL AND VOID. McCain would be handed the Office of the President and the Electoral Vote would have to go to McCain.

Can you folks even imagine the RIOTING and so on that will go on if this happens? Blacks everywhere in this country would rise up against the establishment and Bush would have no choice but to declare "Martial Law" to put down the insurrection.

I submit to you, all of you, that if the US Supreme Court does find Obama lacking proper credential proof of his birth, that there will be automatic firestorm in the Markets as well as on the ground throughout the country.

You better get prepared for what is about to happen folks. Remember, you got the warning from ME ...... 1st ....... Right here !!!!

reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 09:46 PM by pccat

Supreme Court Of The United States (SCOTUS) Justice David Souter has agreed that a review of the federal lawsuit filed by attorney Phil Berg against Barack Hussein Obama II, et al., which was subsequently dismissed for lack of standing is warranted. SCOTUS Docket No. 08-570 contains the details.

found this on PP forum.. here is the link to the docket number..

origin.www.supremecourtus.gov...

reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 09:53 PM by sadisticwoman

Just because the government of another country says it's so, does not mean it is. They want more tourism. And you bet your butt that if he wasn't born there, they will try to fake birth certs for Obama.

So way to go, Kenya, you just stirred up a big pot of controversy. Hope all the money is worth feeling guilty for lying.

reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 10:13 PM by munkey66

The Powers that be will probably wait until after inorgaration and dump him due to inelligability with Biden taking his place as president and Hillary transfered to Vice President.
How scary would that scenario be?