Is There a Monkey in Your Family Tree?

im not rightly sure if this meant as an insult or what ?

sorry very rarely remeber them, if you know them though u2u me the transcripts please


speculation with religeous undercurrents careful swimming with undercurrents is dangerous it drags you down and drowns your reason

yes until you fess up a lil evidnece to the contruary

well ill be dead so my fingers wont work the keys, maybe i shall go speak to blossom goodchild and she can channel for me

more speculation and those dam dangerous undercurrents again

would be if ti were possible but it isnt so its essentialy a post never going to happen so pointless to even bring up

the missions been called off, the creationsist realised i was an evolutionist so my pretending to be one of them to find out just what the hell is being put in the coolade has been called off

i dunno not my sort of magazine really

i wouldnt beleive em either they are lying littel sods and they stole my banana's they said they only wanted to look at them

more of the same undercurrents and religeousyness

that msut be why theres a shortage around here then

and your a mr floppy clown shoes .. dude it doesnt even make sense anymore how long till you roll around speaking in tounges and barking like a dog?

umm you do realise there are more then just 1? you seem to have a fasination for the primate, look if theres anything going on with this perticular primate call the local animal authorities and get it checked out

still not making much sense, we use english around here not poetryanese

no i was born this way i didnt have anything to do with it there was no self evolving required, although my ancestores did evolve to the point im born

o_0 have you been drinking their coolade?

wow i have my own world? or do you mean earth then yeah your right it would be dull if every planet were like earth and they would all satrt bumping into each other destorying each other so we would end up with a big life less asteroid belt

.... ummm .... and may the loving light of jesus forever keep your shoes shiney?

no youve been drinking the coolade ill make my own coffee

never really liked it sorry always prefered wolfenstien and doom

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Hrm...

While I'm willing to concede the possibility that life started outside our planet, and a microbe attached to a meteor or something may have "Seeded" life here, I'm not willing to go as far as to say that anything beyond DNA or RNA started elsewhere.

The fact that DNA is the basic building block of all life on earth pretty much points to the fact we all evolved from a common ancestor.

That means ALL life on earth can trace it's origins back to 1 strand of RNA, floating in a pool of organic chemicals and amino acids. Whether this RNA (which is nothing more than a chemical compound, and is not inherently alive itself) collected together here on earth, or elsewhere will never really be known.

However, it is just as likely that RNA started here on earth...

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Hmmmm Strong beliefs on your part I thought you were into Evolution! LOL

Tell me a little about the Evolution of Time.

I mean where does Your Future come from?

Or am I to be lead to believe you have one?

And You and I know this is Not the case.

That is if your Future has Not been Created for You to see?

Now Where the Hell does that Future come From?

I can see I have rattled your cage, by the amount you have written about me, based on your evolving imagination, that has run a little off track to say the least.

But all I want you to do is enlighten me and ATS on where your future comes From?????

Surely you can answer such a simple question, as I am lead to believe you are indeed an intelligent primate and I am rather misguided and perhaps Ignorant of reality!

I look forward to your Intelligent and enlightening reply without the psychological Hysteria.

no belief just knowledge of our best truth

time does not evolve

from the future

until i cease to be and can no longer observer it i have a future

what isnt?

the future would still exist or are you saying blind people are without time?

the same place as past and present just a little behind the 2 of them

usually i just ignore you sorry

only what was required

do you mean as in the theroy of evoluton or my evolving(changing) understanding and imflection of my imagination?

ill look forward to you informing me how with as little theocracy and undercurrents as possible

some facts and evidence would be good to

time is covered by relativity and special relativity not evolution and relativity really isnt my field

read works on eistiens theory for a better understanding of time

i did in the other thread this is practically a carbon copy of

if it was simple im sure it wouldnt have taken Einstein 1/2 his life to solve it
and understand it

no hysteria sorry

i can do psychology if you like though ive studied nlp and some behavioural psycology

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First I must applaud you, in your courage to provide an answer.

Seriously though I think you have done very well.


From your Post:

"Originally posted by The Matrix Traveller

Hmmmm Strong beliefs on your part I thought you were into Evolution! LOL
no belief just knowledge of our best truth


Tell me a little about the Evolution of Time.
time does not evolve


I mean where does Your Future come from?"

from the future.

But you have Not answered my Question!

[ You stated the future, but Not where it has Come From, so You and I know full well, that No Primate has the Answer.

Perhaps Not even This Primate, but that is another story for another day in The Future which is there for You Right Now ...LOL

(Not laughing at you but just the general situation involving All Primates of Earth) ]


Or am I to be lead to believe you have one?
until i cease to be and can no longer observer it i have a future


And You and I know this is Not the case.
what isnt?


That is if your Future has Not been Created for You to see?
the future would still exist or are you saying blind people are without time?

When I wrote this "To See" I don't refer to the Blind as you miss quoted or chose your Interpretation, but in the true context of Knowing by any means. But No offence intended to you OK?
Now Where the Hell does that Future come From?
the same place as past and present just a little behind the 2 of them


I can see I have rattled your cage,
usually i just ignore you sorry

You see what I mean you can't tolerate the things I say because you know in your heart the Truth and Evolution is a Sham produced by Primates in total denial of the Intelligence that created all through a system of Processing.

It would appear there may be some animosity implied by yourself.
If this is the case it is Rather Sad.

Usually as you know it points to some denial of your world and others in it!

by the amount you have written about me,
only what was required

Yes I am sure You are in full Control of your self but You and I know full well this is Not the case!


based on your evolving imagination,

do you mean as in the theory of evolution or my evolving(changing) understanding and imflection of my imagination?

Surely you are Not going to tell me Your thinking does Not evolve????

that has run a little off track to say the least.
ill look forward to you informing me how with as little theocracy and undercurrents as possible
some facts and evidence would be good to


Self denial is way of the Tracks wouldn't you say! I am referring to your Real Self and Not the Primate you are experiencing as your flesh!


But all I want you to do is enlighten me and ATS on where your future comes From?????

time is covered by relativity and special relativity not evolution and relativity really isnt my field

Yes I can see you know all about Evolution and Not much about yourself or the Experience you are having!

read works on eistiens theory for a better understanding of time

You mean Albert Einstein Don't you?

But who am I to correct in spelling as mine is appalling to say the least! ...LOL


Yes I shall do this for you but I hope it is the answer! But some how because Time Travel has Not been masted at this moment as to say I doubt very much that much will be learnt. Look if Time was understood by Primates on Earth you would be travelling all through your Universe Now and you and I know this is Not the case... I wonder why????
As you are well aware there is much argument within science about Eistien's Theories


Surely you can answer such a simple question, as I am lead to believe you are indeed an intelligent primate and I am rather misguided and perhaps Ignorant of reality!
i did in the other thread this is practically a carbon copy of

That is excellent of you, because you have written your beliefs on ATC for all to see and I applaud you for this... But beliefs are Not Evolution so I see your Beliefs in Evolution are just that Selected Beliefs..... Belief is Not a Foundation for Fact!

if it was simple im sure it wouldnt have taken Einstein 1/2 his life to solve it
and understand it

But if he did that is Albert Einstein understood Time, you and I would be enjoying the fruits of "Time Travel" right now and You clearly know this is Not the case, so Stop dreaming!

Dreams are based on belief, and No Evolution!


I look forward to your Intelligent and enlightening reply without the psychological Hysteria.
no hysteria sorry

No????????

i can do psychology if you like though ive studied nlp and some behavioural psycology

Don't bother as you have already displayed this to ATC

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But no hard feelings as None of this is Personal, but is merely to get to the bottom of reality.

I hope to continue this discussion in The Future....

Now about That Future!

What was My question?

Oh yes that's right...

Where Does your Future Come from?????

You have Not, I repeat Not provided The Answer!!!

I am a little disappointed, but I look forward to you Education on this in the Future....

I still hold hope in you Intelligence and knowing all about this world in reality, I am sure you will come back with an Intelligent Answer for me!

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Now is Future the result of Creation or is it Evolution???

If it is Not by Evolution, it can Only be by Creation that has given you your Future....

I challenge You to Prove me Wrong!


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philosophy is 2 doors down

i cannot answer your question until you ask one that makes sense in sceintific understanding

or even general understanding of the english language

sprekensi detusch?

i am not a philospohy student i dont not understadn your personal philosophy i have no need drive desire or care for discussing philosophy at this stage in my life

lest talk fact evidence and science

not philosophy which only deals with the abstract

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I'm tempted to hit up the guy next door for weed and then come back and see if The Matrix Traveller's posts make more sense.

lemme know if it does im sure i can still find a man that knowns a man

although i fear my disregard for spelling may increase with the levels of flight achieved

So does reality.

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but reality is goverend by physical law

and thats what we are discussing

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Or were, or were trying too.

Nothing like giving credibility to the incredible!

Blows a true discussion every time.

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why i usually over look his posts

theres nothing to discuss in them unless i magically begin to understand just how his mental filters work

playing peek-a-boo with the god of gaps is just dul and gets very unimaganative after a while



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Thanks for the video, this is one I have never seen before. I can add it to my collection of evolution destroying information.

As for the Title of the post, I have some relatives I would swear were animals but, after being told that was what they were since kindergarten when they start brainwashing the kids with the dinosaurs and millions of years ago. I do not wonder why some act like animals.

Like I say in all these threads evolution is a belief/faith and a religion as you have to believe it happened. I don't think schools should be teaching any faiths or call one science. We have supposed Christian Science Evangelism and supposed evolutionary science, neither should be in our schools as science or fact. I like the way my son's 11th grade biology teacher put it in his public school here in Colorado. He tells the class this "There are two theories on the Origin of Life or where we came from, neither are provable and neither are needed for biology study". This is the way it should be in all schools, except private ones that of course can teach their curriculum as they see fit.

I do not believe in evolution, well let me clarify because this is the problem with evolutionists and Christians. I do not believe in the first 5 steps of the evolutionary processes I do believe in what they wrongly call micro-evolution, it is actually change within the species. Like a horse and a zebra can breed and make a Zorse but the offspring go back to zebra or horse. Cosmic evolution is a fairytale, chemical evolution is a fairytale, macro evolution s a fairytale etc..

Never has it been observed that 2 animals gave offspring of a different kind or species. So if it is not repeatable, observable, and within the known Laws of Science it is not Science and should not be taught as such.

I feel the same about creationism, we can not repeat it, observe it (other than seeing everything on earth), or know how life was made so it too should not be taught as a science.

Anyways GREAT THREAD and the video was great so thanks for that. I think personally that creationism is the Origin of ALL LIFE but I do not think taxpayer dollars should be spent teaching, brainwashing, or indoctrinating anyone's children with my beliefs. As I don't think we should be teaching, brainwashing, or indoctrinating anyone's children with evolution theory on the public buck.

I won't get into all the reasons I think creationism is the answer, but I can say evolutionary theory as it is today is impossible and all the scientists know it. Evolution has been disproved at every turn to date, no fossils of intermediary animals or missing links ever found that were not frauds. But I can not prove scientifically that GOD Created either.

This site has a lot of great evolution busting info, Evolution Cruncher is the best truly scientific look at the evidence we have.

or just look at the evidence and accept it

science carries a big no foath allowed sticker on its peer reviewed works, like evolution

i agree just say no to ID

well 1 is and 1 isnt science based on a collections of fact called theroies so your 1/2 right

and neither of them are evolution

god no thats giving lincese to not educate but indoctrinate with any old pap without facts and theory required

no they continue to be a hybridised version of both

ill just stick to scientific evolution then no fairies allowed

but speciation the first step of macro has which proves it correct and the fossil record shows it too

just say no to ID and creationism in classs

but that doesnt prove it just means our eyes work and we hold a belief



its proven its factual it should be taught as such

except the thousans that ahve been found and arnt frauds

its impossible to prove the impossible thats why science ignores it

i shall have a look and see how bad it gets it wrong but thanks for the link

i honestly dought it, but you never know *fingers crossed im going in *

and we should all be thankful you didnt start talking about wetrocks as a reality of what science actually thinks thanks for that

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ok a uick glance at that link

yes bieng banned from schools by court order is a resounding success in the same way poland won the second world war by bieng invaded

p.s. concensus says you lost the debates, and with all the evidence of the last 30 years there is no debate just denial of evidence

Darwin made a prediction based on evolution

there must be transitional species if this is correct, we found them and you were proven right good on you Mr Darwin

good job its not blind chance then really

anyone notice the dates the newest one i have found is 1985 its 24 years out of date, a mobile phone that fits in a cigarette box plays music videos has a camera that the battery lasts for more then a few hours would be a miracle compared to the phones of the day, trying to use 24 year old argumenst against modern scienitifc findings is going to leave you flat like ever debate on here has for the anti-evolutionary thoery believers

sorry the whole thing is a list of evolutionary processes and results and them simpley saying - i dont understand it so its impossible

theres no science, no evidence, just poor conjecture and playing peek-a-boo with the god of the gaps in places he has long been forced out of

the whole thing looks a bit like this




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I just want to thank you for your introduction to:

Evolution Cruncher

Quote:-

"This site has a lot of great evolution busting info, Evolution Cruncher is the best truly scientific look at the evidence we have."

It brings some sanity into the argument.

I have read some of the material and I will definitely be reading all of it.

Well worth while everyone reading this material!

I still remain with my support going to,

"Creation through Knowledge, Wisdom, Love and Intelligence."

I am Not convinced of Evolution at all.

The more I read the weaker the argument comes in support for Evolution, nor am I impressed with the attitude of some propagating its theories.

If Evolutionists can prove any validity in evolution existing, which I doubt very much that they can, I may be persuaded to adopt their Ideas.

But really some people turn me right off this possibility.

What I see from some Evolutionists is a very large chip being carried on their shoulders, against both Intelligence and Life.

In Fact some are so obsessive about evolution, it borders on insanity.

It is a pity that the motives behind some evolutionist in attempting to ram this ignorance down others throats, goes to the extreme to say the least.

It indicates loud and clear, they have some fear in the thought, of having been Created.

Perhaps it strips their Control, they believe they had, over their own destiny.

But in the End The Truth Remains.

I put my Faith in The Truth.

Thank you once again for the Introduction to,

Evolution Cruncher

might want to look up ERV's (Endogene retrovirus ), Atavisims, whale evolution, Phylogenetic trees

all can ONLY be explained by evolution

also check out the youtube channels for

Donexodus2 - christian doctorate in biology(unknown specifics)
cdk007 - Ph.D. Molecular Neuroscience
Potholer54 - scientific journalist with a degree in geology
AndromedasWake - physicist not sure if degree or doctorate level working in astrophysics and astronomy

as the Id'ers say teach both sides, they happily destory the other sides arguments and leave it looking like a burnt out wreck





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Might I add another channel to that.

Aron Ra - Phd in geology

i havnt had chance to view his stuff yet, i spotted his site linked as a good source by thunderf00t but wont get chance to wacth them till tommorrow

but yeah from what ive read he is another good source(couldnt personally endorse so left him off)