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Topic started on 20-11-2008 @ 09:26 PM by masterweb

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Examines and powerfully refutes the so-called "evidence" that man evolved from an ape-like ancestor.

Thomas Kindell is the founder and president of Reasons for Faith Ministries ( nwcreation.net... ), dedicated to equipping Christian believers with evidence for their Biblical faith. For over 25 years he has lectured on the subjects of scientific creation and Biblical apologetics. He holds a Ph.D. in Theology from International Seminary and received training in scientific creationism at the Institute for Creation Research.

reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 09:41 PM by TheRandom1

reply to post by masterweb

Yes, there is, it's me, I'm the monkey in my family tree.

Look out, here come the poo flinging evolutionists and mods!

You may want to give more info in your op.

-Lahara

reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 10:01 PM by The Matrix Traveller

Originally posted by masterweb
video.google.com...
Examines and powerfully refutes the so-called "evidence" that man evolved from an ape-like ancestor.

Thomas Kindell is the founder and president of Reasons for Faith Ministries ( nwcreation.net... ), dedicated to equipping Christian believers with evidence for their Biblical faith. For over 25 years he has lectured on the subjects of scientific creation and Biblical apologetics. He holds a Ph.D. in Theology from International Seminary and received training in scientific creationism at the Institute for Creation Research.

Humankind did Not evolve from Primates such as an ape-like ancestor as our Flesh is a Primate!

Or one of the Primate Species.

Look in the Mirror and What do you See?

Yes it is definitely a Primate But........

A'Dam was Not created in God's Image.

But Man was Created in God's Image.

Do you recognise the Geometry in My Avatar?

God Does Not look like a Human Primate!

The Flesh is A'Dam and The Soul is Man.....

It is The True Mind that Rules over all the Animals including the flesh of so called Humankind which really is The Descendants of A'Dam..

There were 2 Trees...

Of Cain Born of the Wicked One (Cain's Father was the Wicked One and Not A'Dam.

The Sin Eve committed, was Adultery with the Wicked One.)

The other is Seth second son of A'Dam.

There was also 200 Aliens' that came to the earth, to the daughters of humankind and crossed with them.

This introduced the nationalities as well as Giants as a result of the cross breeding getting so far out of control.

The names of the Leaders of these ones, who came to the earth can be found in the Books of E'Noch!

The Authenticity of The Books of E'Noch can be found in the Book of Jude as there is a Quotation from the Books of E'Noch, even though a couple of words have been conveniently left out, to try and change the meaning!

The 1st Book of Moses has Also been corrupted by flesh trying to make out that A'Dam is Man.

But A'Dam and Man are two different Entities!

The primate Form A'Dam is Manifested Inside Man which is The Soul and is in the Image of God and Looks Nothing like a Primate!

Wake up children of Earth and Know thy Selves, Take up your Cross and follow Christ.

The Cross is, that all peoples are cross breeds with Aliens.....

So the way is Not through the Flesh but through the Life of God or True Mind as it is written in a Christian writing Quoting Jesus Christ called....

"The Thunder Perfect Mind"

Children of Earth do Not B.S. yourselves!

[edit on 21-11-2008 by The Matrix Traveller]

reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 10:02 PM by Fuzzy Wabbit

reply to post by masterweb

Scientific creationism. Now there's an oxymoron, if I ever heard one.

Creationism falls under the realm of metaphysics. There is no actual science in creationism as it requires a leap-of-faith belief that is impossible to analyze via the scientific method.

It is well-wishing at best.

reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 10:59 PM by The Matrix Traveller

Originally posted by Fuzzy Wabbit
reply to post by masterweb

Scientific creationism. Now there's an oxymoron, if I ever heard one.

Creationism falls under the realm of metaphysics. There is no actual science in creationism as it requires a leap-of-faith belief that is impossible to analyze via the scientific method.

It is well-wishing at best.

Are you trying to tell me if a human creates anything at all, from an idea, to inventing say the car or TV, it means that it is Religious or of metaphysics?

Oh man that is so crazy.

If we create AT does this mean it is Religious or of metaphysics?

If we Create a Craft to cross our Universe does that say it is Religious or of metaphysics?

What on Earth is Humankind coming to on Earth ??????

reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 11:19 PM by invisiblewoman

this is a ridiculous argument the mans video has no merit whatsoever he is basing his arguments on things he is alleging about about evolution but have nothing in common with what evolution actually teaches

he is doing this ,it's an old trick strawman

nice try

reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 11:20 PM by SamuraiDrifter

Not only did humans evolve from an ape-like ancestor, humans ARE apes. We are part of the family Hominidae, or the great apes- including chimpanzees, orangutans, and gorillas.

So, technically, everyone in your family tree is an ape.

[edit on 20-11-2008 by SamuraiDrifter]

reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 11:21 PM by Good Wolf

There's no monkey in my family but there are apes, we all are apes. Man is ape, by definition.

And millions of years ago we had a common ancestor with monkeys.

reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 11:25 PM by RFBurns

We were like apes millions of years ago until our genetics were altered by the Anunaki.

Yet we are all still within the zoo.

Enjoy!!

Cheers!!!!

reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 11:29 PM by Good Wolf

Originally posted by invisiblewoman
nice try

Pfff. Hardly. This is the same ol' crap we always hear. It never changes.

No monkey in your family tree. Of course there isn't! We aren't monkeys. We don't even have tails.

[edit on 20/11/2008 by Good Wolf]

reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 11:44 PM by SamuraiDrifter

Okay, upon further review of this video, the theory of evolution is being seriously misrepresented. 43 seconds into the video, the man has made the following claims:

1) Universities are teaching that humans evolved from monkeys.
2) Man is the apex of evolution.
3) The first cell branched off into the plant and animal kingdoms.
4) Apes and humans are a seperate family.

Universities are NOT teaching that man evolved from monkeys. What they are teaching is that humans share a common ancestor with other modern apes. How do you explain the skeletons of non-sapien hominids? Did god just bury them in the ground to test your faith?

Man is NOT the apex of evolution. There is no "goal" to evolution, no apex. We are the most intelligent organisms on the planet, but not necessarily the most complex or most adapted to our environments.

Saying that the first cell branched off into the plant and animal kingdoms is a gross oversimplification. Animals and plants evolved from single-celled eukaryotic lifeforms which had been around for a long time before the evolution of multicellularity, having incorporated primitive prokaryotic cells into their anatomy. His description gives the idea:

Single-celled life -> immediately to plant and animal.

I have no idea how you can claim evolution is powerfully refuted when what he's presenting is not the theory of evolution.

And, finally, apes and humans are part of the same family.

[edit on 20-11-2008 by SamuraiDrifter]

reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 11:44 PM by invisiblewoman

now you're talking ,of course evolution is a damnable heretical lie ,constructed by the devil

'cause we don't have tails ! duh! how much proof of God do you need!

reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 12:35 AM by The Matrix Traveller

Originally posted by SamuraiDrifter
Not only did humans evolve from an ape-like ancestor, humans ARE apes. We are part of the family Hominidae, or the great apes- including chimpanzees, orangutans, and gorillas.

So, technically, everyone in your family tree is an ape.

[edit on 20-11-2008 by SamuraiDrifter]

Absolutely True.......

Any thoughts on Breeding with Aliens in the Past or perhaps even the Present?

Has this occurred?

reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 12:41 AM by Good Wolf

reply to post by The Matrix Traveller

Any thoughts on Breeding with Aliens in the Past or perhaps even the Present?

Has this occurred?

Carl Sagan said it best when he said that "it would be easier for a man to successfully breed with a petunia than an extraterrestrial."

Everything on earth with DNA is somehow related with everything else because of evolution but aliens and humans are completely unrelated because they evolved independently altogether. It would be possible for aliens to interfere with our evolution but not to breed with us.

[edit on 21/11/2008 by Good Wolf]

reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 01:01 AM by The Matrix Traveller

Hi Good Wolf,

Now don't misunderstand me but can you give us Proof that all aliens are different from our Species?

Sorry I don't know All Alien Species so I can't comment!

Just Joking.....

But seriously though how can anyone make such a statement, that we can't be like aliens and cross breed unless that person knows all species in our universe, and really I think this is impossible, but then again I may be a little simple or just a little slow on the uptake.

So I welcome the proof, that we are the only ones, or primates in the Universe or we are completely different and can't cross with them.

The world is full of yarns about this even a few rock drawings thrown in as an extra I am told.

But who really knows?

But do you really believe what others tell you and can you be certain you are 100% correct if you believe them.

Oh man I wish I could be that confident!

But there is this lump in my throat when I try to make some statements and I can't really believe myself in saying Nup we are the only ones in the Universe !!!

Or Nup No Way can we breed with Aliens !!!

It just doesn't feel right somehow !!!!!

Not that I want to find me an Alien Chick, if you know what I mean !!!!

Its hard enough handling Primate chicks!!!! LOL

Any way I look forward to that undeniable Truth that I am sure you can help me with....

Give it heaps? )&%#)@?>

reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 01:11 AM by Good Wolf

reply to post by The Matrix Traveller

Consider for a minute the fact that unless you have an identical twin, it would take trillions of years for another one of you to be born, who is genetically identical.

There are so many factors that would acts as a barrier from that ever happening. We have 23 pairs of chromosomes, they could have any number of chromosomes. Then all the coding for different functions in their being would be coded differently.

Evolution is blind and all mutations are blind to, meaning that the genetic code of aliens would be completely random compared to ours, there would be more completely different genomes out there than grains of sand on the earth and stars in the universe.

It won't happen.

reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 01:35 AM by The Matrix Traveller

Hmmmmm Don't get me wrong Good Wolf, but all this is only reasoning from you and me, based entirely on our own knowledge, which is somewhat restricted as there will always be far more we don't know, than we think we know.

In the past I have been in some interesting occupations, that have taken me into some areas outside the square, as to say but hell when I left any of these occupations, each time I am always left with far more questions about Us and our Universe than when I started.

And some of the things I have witnessed are not that easy to understand and require many hours of analysing.

The old saying; the more I learn the More I learn how little we really know, and most of our reasoning is usually decided by, or governed by our own secret phobias, to how we are able to accept ourselves, and in what way we are most comfortable, in relating to our experience.

But I will consider your thoughts, as I always do and throw it around a little for a few days and see what we come up with....

Thank you for sharing your thoughts.....

reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 01:52 AM by Good Wolf

reply to post by The Matrix Traveller

Well it hardly matters. The more we understand about genetics the less likely it will occur that any alien will be able to successfully mate with a human.

It's just not going to happen.

But that doesn't mean that they wouldn't be able to manipulate us and our DNA therefore altering our evolutionary path.

reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 02:08 AM by SamuraiDrifter