An open letter to Creationists, page 6

reply to post by angel of lightangelo

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Yes in Fact you are a part of God!

Or are you going to Deny God of His members or Body?

All and I mean All is a part of God!

There is No other!

Have you lost the Knowledge of Yourself?

In saying this, in the below Text, please understand I am Not Referring to you!

Why are people so Superstitious about What they are!

Are they ashamed of themselves as Adam and Eve were?

And try to hide from themselves?

Why is Humanity so Insecure?

Lack of Knowledge of The Self??????

I wonder....

Can you throw some thoughts in here please?

Look I am Not against a singe person, but at times I get a little frustrated at times, as Humanity will Not receive Knowledge at times and Can't Recognise what they are a part of!

I am involved with science and don't ridicule Science but really there is so much disagreement between us in the field of science at times.

Science is Not the ruler of all.

As we go from culture to culture Ideas and thoughts change there is No common ground.

You are lead to believe that there is by Western propaganda and very little is ever mentioned about one of the oldest races on Earth The Chinese.

Do you really believe that China has the same beliefs or Science as the West?

While I was in China for about 10 Months I found in Scientific circles including the medical field, to be completely different, from the West and in Fact, I learnt more in China, than I have in The West!

I am also returning to China again involved in the Work I do!






[edit on 22-11-2008 by The Matrix Traveller]

reply to post by The Matrix Traveller

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I have no idea what you are on about. When did I mention China? What does that have to do with anything? You can say there is a God all you like, that does not make it true. Sorry but your insane ramblings will not trap me. You hardly make sense in any sort of response here. Whatever you are trying to tell me, you are doing the opposite.

Originally posted by angel of lightangelo
reply to post by The Matrix Traveller

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I have no idea what you are on about. When did I mention China? What does that have to do with anything? You can say there is a God all you like, that does not make it true. Sorry but your insane ramblings will not trap me. You hardly make sense in any sort of response here. Whatever you are trying to tell me, you are doing the opposite.

I don't think English is his first language, so go easy on him. He just has a little trouble grabbing the exact words he needs.
And I have no Idea why he hates China. Perhaps he's Tibetan. The mandala he has for the avatar means he could be...

Originally posted by cruzion

Originally posted by angel of lightangelo
reply to post by The Matrix Traveller

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I have no idea what you are on about. When did I mention China? What does that have to do with anything? You can say there is a God all you like, that does not make it true. Sorry but your insane ramblings will not trap me. You hardly make sense in any sort of response here. Whatever you are trying to tell me, you are doing the opposite.

I don't think English is his first language, so go easy on him. He just has a little trouble grabbing the exact words he needs.
And I have no Idea why he hates China. Perhaps he's Tibetan. The mandala he has for the avatar means he could be...

Then he needs to go off on them, not me. I understand this is an international forum but I did not ask to get this speach personally handed to me so I have no idea what is going on here.

reply to post by angel of lightangelo

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What is Your Problem can't you read English?

I never said, you Mentioned China.

I was telling You that there are actually others in the World besides You!

Or perhaps You are entirely alone?????

Get over Yourself and find others in the World besides you.

So We don't need all this Childish tantrum throwing and Insults do we, unless I have touched a verve in you.

But that's still no reason for your behaviour...

reply to post by cruzion

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That's No Problem It is Not my intention to force anyone to accept anything at all.

It is yourself you have to live with Not me.

reply to post by cruzion

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Thank you. I just wish that many wwho attack me all the time, would maybe think about themselves for a change and ask questions instead of hurling abuse.

It is Not my intention to ram things down your throats but some need a shock to wake them up and start asking questions for a change.

My apologies if I am getting a little frustrated here, but I expect more from humankind than this.

Originally posted by The Matrix Traveller
reply to post by angel of lightangelo

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What is Your Problem can't you read English?

I never said, you Mentioned China.

I was telling You that there are actually others in the World besides You!

Or perhaps You are entirely alone?????

Get over Yourself and find others in the World besides you.

So We don't need all this Childish tantrum throwing and Insults do we, unless I have touched a verve in you.

But that's still no reason for your behaviour...

Sorry that I have no idea what you are talking about. I know there are people out there. You responded to me and then went on and on about China. What for? What is any of what you said for? Why are you addressing me at all?

reply to post by The Matrix Traveller

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HEY! I explained how your theory about the future proves nothing. Whatever your China Laden rant is about, you need to explain or move on. Your response to me makes no sense at all. I read English just fine, can you write in it?

reply to post by angel of lightangelo

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Perhaps I have Love for Humankind, as I am part of Creation and a little one of The True Mind.

There is Only One, See if you can exit the One which is The All!

Even when you Die You are Still a part of The All!

I love that which has been Created and That is Not a Crime against Life is it?

ok i tired to be nice and try and understand what you meant but i guess you like to flame

let me retune the favour

Originally posted by The Matrix Traveller


What a lot of desperate B.S.

no its a poor answer to a poor question garbage in garbage out, if you want a better answer you need to ask a better question that makes sense to the rest of the world not just you

why does the sky taste like spanners when the velevet elphants cry tears of sewers taht smell of lemon? - about the same scientific value as any of your questions

philosophy is 2 doors down on the right your in the wrong place

Quite a fitting thread for my answer Don't you think????

umm i have no clue becasue either there is a language problem or you have a problem expressing waht you wish to mean so we have simply no clue what most of the stuff you type mean

You have Not provided an answer but have made a complete fool of yourself...

yes i have made a fool of my self by butchering relativity to a level that may be able to answer a retarded nonsensicaly question in the hopes thats what you meant

this how ever has nothing to do with you or your question just the fact i tried to answer not just ask wtf are you talking about

I am a little disappointed in your remark as I thought you may have been Educated????

hahahahhahah sure lets go head to head any scientific topic you want

and i mean real science using scientific stuff, you can try and isnult me all you like i dont care if you made sense id run circles around you

But where the Hell does your future come From????

ass clown there is no future, there is only now and past

the future is anything that may happen but as yet has not been observed to have happened

time is not a thing, its not real. its a name we give a natural dimension of our universe inorder to help us understand and make predictions for event that may happen

you can ask the same question over and over and i can give several explenations but all that means is im wasting my time on a reatrded arangment of letters and a questionmark that DO NOT make sense in any field of science or in any filed of anything except religeon and philosophy

and were not in that forum and even in these fields much greater clarity would be required

As For me I definitely support Intelligent Creation through Processing!

great for you. now make sense with the rest of it or your explenation of what you beleive in this statement and ill rip it all to hell so your left playing peek-a-bo with the god of the gaps

Now this is Technology, and not the loose and unfounded beliefs of a Primate!

technology is sceince clown foot if it used the exact same method to prove evolution as it did to understand and design and create every piece of technology

No I am definitely Not convinced by your wandering words and Insults!

there was no real insult intended pitty the same wasnt returned in your original post or your reply

your a clown who thinks philosophy is scinece and if h puts any old words in a line it makes sense

dont post anything write it out then get soemone who understands english to check it for you your babbelfish is broken

My the Power of God remain Eternal and This world shall surely pass away But Christ's Words Shall Not pass away!

my imaginary friend was called milky ... he vanished when i turned 6 ho nice you still have yours

My trust In Christ and Not You!

i dont give a toss about you trusting me i really dont your simply not that important to me

but it would be nice if you tried to beleive in evidence logic reason an some of that sillyness ya know

in short




now make sense or go anway its a simple choice,

we can both dish out ad-homnims mine however make sense, in a context outside of a personally held an un explained self philosophy

and next time i might even get annoyed nt just despaire at your lack of reason and flagrant missues of the english language

[edit on 23/11/08 by noobfun]

Originally posted by The Matrix Traveller
reply to post by angel of lightangelo

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Perhaps I have Love for Humankind, as I am part of Creation and a little one of The True Mind.

There is Only One, See if you can exit the One which is The All!

Even when you Die You are Still a part of The All!

I love that which has been Created and That is Not a Crime against Life is it?

Nah, dude. That is totall cool. You keep on lovin' man. Whenever you get done with that, please pass me whatever you are enjoying.

reply to post by noobfun

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Look all I want to know, is Where does Future Come from No matter where you may be in Your Universe or your Reality?


I quote your Words of wisdom:-

the future has always happened ahead of you

Then how the hell can you have choice or free will?????

If you live in the past?????

Surely you would have to Live in the "now", to be able to have choice or do anything in free will????

I guess You are a Slave, to something Then!

That is if You have No Free Will???

But I think this would be Nonsense, if it were the case, don't you think????

And if you refer to the future, else where, where does that place, you mention in the future, get its future from?

You tell me your are Smarter than me but this plainly shows you are missing something and have absolutely No understanding of yourself or the Universe that you are temporally experiencing.

You can only be lead by others, and can't think for yourself any more!

Look all I want to know is Where does Future Come from No matter where you may be in Your Universe or your Reality?

That is also We don't need verbal slandering in your answers, trying to hide the fact you cant answer the Question!

Your insults are a reflection of your inadequacy, as you know psychology, you should know this!

Originally posted by The Matrix Traveller
reply to post by noobfun

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Look all I want to know, is Where does Future Come from No matter where you may be in Your Universe or your Reality?

covered by the butchery of general relativity it is simply a matter of light and flase perception

I quote your Words of wisdom:-

the future has always happened ahead of you

imagine a star 60 million and 1 day light years away from you, 60 million years ago it emited a light photon which has been traveling through space its already 60 million years old but isstill 1 day ahead of you in your future as it wont reach you for 60milion years and 1 day

Then how the hell can you have choice or free will?????

you dont

you always have a finite selection of choices, this is then self limited further by your physical ability, personal psychology, knowledgebase, learned responses and current state of mind

in fact freedom of choice is really never more then a series of possabilities in a boulian system

do i react or not, if i react do i go left or right, if i go right do i run or walk

habitualisation often removes the choice to a single line

hence the phrase, if you always do what you have always done you will always get what you always got

If you live in the past?????

yepp your always a split second behind trying to cath up and deluding your self you have

Surely you would have to Live in the "now", to be able to have choice or do anything in free will????

its a trick of our concious see above

I guess You are a Slave, to something Then!

the physical law as we all are

That is if You have No Free Will???

which we dont, its a concept of expretion

not a physical thing just an illusion of a thing that could be

But I think this would be Nonsense, if it were the case, don't you think????

no it would be a total reversal of vast chunks of physical law and that requires a whole lot of evidence not just subjection and self delusion to prove

And if you refer to the future, else where, where does that place, you mention in the future, get its future from?

the same place as the past and present

its already there its just not where you are experiencing it yet, hence why its relative to the individual as the observer

You tell me your are Smarter than me but this plainly shows you are missing something and have absolutely No understanding of yourself or the Universe that you are temporally experiencing.

no that you are denying what is because it goes against that you chose to believe

i have a basic understanding of time light and many other factors of the universe as desceribed and shown by physical law, and physical law will always be above thoecratic law and philosophy they are what could be or what we wished it to be. physical law is simply what is

You can only be lead by others, and can't think for yourself any more!

nope i can chose to beleive which side i like when multipul possabilities are presented by physical law and no one is yet proven true or i can choose to ignore both and build my own shaky beleif based on personal belief and my very own brand of self delussion

but no matter if i embrace it or deny it, ridicule it or run away from it the truth will still be tehe truth and it will still be there waiting for me to come to my senses and aknowledge it

Look all I want to know is Where does Future Come from No matter where you may be in Your Universe or your Reality?

reality is a lie

its a trick of the mind a way it tries to understand our surroundings and interpret them to us

the map is not the territory as they say in NLP, i know the sky is not blue but my mechanisms for gathering and interpretting that which i experience will always show me it is blue as long as the sun shines in the sky, and at night my mechanisms tell me its dark but still allows star light to shine

both are equally wrong our mechanisms come with built in filters, no matter how much the mind understands the blickers can never be removed

That is also We don't need verbal slandering in your answers, trying to hide the fact you cant answer the Question!

ask a sceintific question get a scientific answer

a better question gains a better answer, maybe you should improve the question to reflect what is not what you have convinced yourself with your map of reality

Your insults are a reflection of your inadequacy, as you know psychology, you should know this!

no just a reflection of the insults projected at me, rewoked and returned to sender

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reply to post by FSBlueApocalypse

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One way to read your open letter is that you correctly see the Evolution/Creation arguments as a philosophical argument about whether there is a God who created everything or not rather than which men can stack up the most arguments for their point of view. After all, even Moses' descriptions were long after creation. Creation did not have any human witnesses and, of course, it is impossible to reproduce it to establish a scientific fact.

In the long run arguments about Evolution/Creation are as significant as "dark ages" arguments about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.

The real question is "Is there a God, and if so, what is your relationship with Him?"

reply to post by The Matrix Traveller

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I am more confused now. I thought you were saying there is a god? Now you say that proof of that god is that you read somewhere that the future is already made. Then you say someone else must be a slave to something for not believing in your god? You just said that your god is the one who took away free will. So according to your logic there is no free will either way but for some reason it is proof that there is a god? What?

[edit on 23-11-2008 by angel of lightangelo]

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