An open letter to Creationists

Actually, the experiments in which nucleic acid were synthesized in a method that could have very easily occurred naturally on earth. That was the entire point of the experiment.


But, original cells and DNA do not have their origins in intelligent design. In fact, the evolution of many cellular processes are well laid out.

www.talkorigins.org...

Miller-Urey experiment:

en.wikipedia.org...

Am I a Creationist ????

Absolutely Yes....

But We, I refer to the Life Spirit in us, are droplets of the All that Created all in the first place.

Have you fallen asleep and forgotten your selves? I refer to the real you and Not the Flesh you are experiencing!

Can any One of you escape, being Part of The All?

Can Any one of you step out side, the existence of the All?

Hmmmm No I didn't think so...

A'Dam was Flesh...

Man is the Soul....

Look at My Avatar....

This is Known as The Man Child or in western words The Son of Man !

Yea I know what many will say... "This is Not Man" Well think again..

This is from The Book of Ezekiel and The Revelation....


Man was made in The Image of God !

A'Dam came from your Universe namely from the Ground.

That is why all flesh ends up in the Ground again!

See if you can Prove me wrong on this!

I have Not known anyone nor heard of anyone who does not become The Dirt or ashes after the Body stops Function.

Just because a structure functions does Not mean it is alive.

There is a Difference between a body being alive and Life experiencing a body!

Even Jesus of Nazareth was buried and The Life of God raised the body of Jesus....

You bury Garbage, You don't collect Garbage this is All of our flesh is Buried including my Flesh.

But as for Life, Life is Not Death, neither can Life Die, because it is Life, and Not Death.

If it were Not so, then you could make these dead rocks Live.

And You Can't!

You had to be created because you don't now how to create yourself or anything else.

Be thankful that you are, and stop B.S,ing your selves, into denying Intelligence.

Truth comes to All in the End, because where the End is, there also is The Beginning!





[edit on 21-11-2008 by The Matrix Traveller]

Maybe that would be possible if you provided some evidence to refute.


I will become something else. After my body stops functioning I will transform into the Flying Spaghetti monster.

See if you can prove me wrong on that.


What created the creator?


I could say the same to you.


I've taken quite a few mind-altering drugs in my time, but I'm sure you have me beaten by about 500 or so LSD trips.

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Look don't take this personally but take it as a wake up call!

It is Not for me to prove anything but for you to prove you are correct!

And we both know you are unable to do this am I correct?

If you think you can then go for it big time!

Yours is wishful thinking of a Primate, but I have experienced Death as You know and Not a NDE.

But both of us know in Truth, that You shall experience Death, as each second you live, is 1 second closer to this, and you can't hide from it can you?

I did Not experience what you say we do, in death, therefore you are a Liar!

I would Rather accept the Power of Intelligence, that Created you than your whims in desperation of a primate in trying to justify Lies.

You are so Great you could Not Create yourself, but had to be formed by something else, and given the gift of Life.

Who do I believe a Primate or The Life?

You know in yourself that answer don't you.


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Concerning Noah and the flood! I would like to point out a detail many antichristians and Christians alike are not aware of...

Before the great worldwide flood during Noah's days the earth had much more land mass than it has today. It is my belief, as well as many others, that the earth's land mass was one huge continent surrounded on all sides by one sea.

When the flood happened, the Lord God made it rain and made the water under the earth's crust to completely cover this one huge land mass! There were many mountains on this land, but they were not near as high as today's mountains.

The flood waters completely covered all dry land for over a year. Then, God pushed dry land up through the waters, and God separated the one great land mass into several continents and islands. High mountains were also formed on the newly separated land mass, and many gorges were formed by the quick pushing up of the land masses.

Much of the land that bordered the one huge land mass were left under water. Many areas that were dry land before the flood were left under the newly formed oceans. Many evidences of civilization were buried under miles of ocean. This is why today scientists are only able to see as far back as the time after the flood. Much of what existed before the flood was either washed deep into the oceans or were buried deep under the ocean waters.

When God destroyed the earth He not only destroyed or covered up much of the land, He also destroyed any evidences of human civilization. The past of mankind was completely eliminated. God did not want mankind to look back at anything mankind had invented or designed.

We have no way of ever knowing what was before the great worldwide flood. Everything we have now could quite possibly have been around before the flood. There will never be a way of knowing for sure.

Why would we want to know anyway? All of mankind, even Noah, was not right with God. Everything mankind had achieved was worthless and futile.
The reason why we are finding simple tools of mankind after the flood is because mankind started out, or restarted out, using simple tools. Everything that they had achieved had been completely removed.

Also, the human remains we have been finding were a part of a human race that has long been eradicated by mankind since after the flood. There have been races on this earth that have been destroyed and totally eradicated by both God and man. The reason God did it is because of the anti-God hatred and violence toward God's creation committed by these various races. The reason mankind did it was because mankind was selfish and did not want to retain God in their hearts!

reply to post by SaintlyMic

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Hi SaintlyMic,

Thank God someone with some Sanity!

I would agree 110% with your comments.

But why can you and I see this, but others are in total denial.

I am sure it is brought on, by their own security, and fear of their own Ignorance of Life.

And of course in the future at some time, the waters will recede under the crust again, leaving an abundance of fertile land,
once more.

This is when there are No more Seas....

Springs of water will gush forth, that will run down the slopes and form lakes whose waters will seep down into the crust again.

The high hills will be made low and the land will melt like wax before the flame.

Sounds very familiar doesn't it?

Excellent post.

I look forward to more of your comments.

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Ashley, you pretty much summed up my sentiments. Even though I stated that I actually believe in evolution, some here have acted as if it was never said. Apparently, in their eyes, if you believe in a creative force and evolution, it's not good enough for them.

Honestly,I don't care... I am not here to make people happy. I am here to tell them the truth.


[edit on 21-11-2008 by SpeakerofTruth]

Originally posted by SaintlyMic
Concerning Noah and the flood! I would like to point out a detail many antichristians and Christians alike are not aware of...

- So if you're not christian, you are anti-christian?

Before the great worldwide flood during Noah's days the earth had much more land mass than it has today. It is my belief, as well as many others, that the earth's land mass was one huge continent surrounded on all sides by one sea.

- Answer me 2 things here; are you talking about Rodinia or Pangea or some other landmass? Also, when was Noah alive; can you give us an approximate time-frame?

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What is Truth?

It is that which you choose to believe and thus is your Truth but all things are truth in the sight of God for all is of God.

Read Isaiah Chapter 45 verse 7

Quote;

I form The Light,
and create darkness:
I make peace,
and create evil:
I the Lord
do all these things.


As it is also written Let all be called Liars.

Jesus said,

"I do the works of My Father and ye do the Works of yours."

We are born of Fornication that is the fornication of Eve.

Jesus said "this is an Adulterous generation"....

The Adultery started with Eve with the wicked one as Cain was the first born of Eve and was born of the Wicked one.

The wicked one that deceived Eve was Cain's Father.

as it is also written All men ( but should have been written as "Flesh") have come short of the Glory of God....

The corruption in the writings is, the Fornication of Adam adopting the Name man, that was by Flesh and Not God!

Even a Lie is a True Lie!

All things are done by The Father and by no other.

He doeth the works.





[edit on 21-11-2008 by The Matrix Traveller]

Well, there is a reason for that... No man has the COMPLETE truth. We all have bits and pieces of it. Honestly, my previous comment was one of arrogance. I should have worded it a bit differently...

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reply to post by SpeakerofTruth

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Thank you I often make the same mistake!

I will be glad when we all have learnt!

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I double dog dare you to watch the movie EXPELLED by Ben Stein and see what the worlds top scientists say about creation. The movie is available for rent now

No Bible, non creationist evolution thinking scientist in the highest respect of their fields.

Then come back and tell me what you think about your OP...

We shall see...

reply to post by theindependentjournal

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You mean that piece of garbage propaganda?

I prefer the version that corrects the BS as it goes

YouTube Link

reply to post by theindependentjournal

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Well I have watched the trailer so This guy has given a star or two to theindependentjournal so I'm going to look at the whole film.

Thank you for the Into to "Expelled"

I will express my thoughts some time soon.





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reply to post by FSBlueApocalypse

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Have you watched the film?

Can you give me a run down before I see the whole film?

reply to post by FSBlueApocalypse

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Science is provable and observable in labs, never has one creature given life to another never observed not once. You don;t even want to start talking about known Laws of Science such as laws of probabilities and laws of thermodynamics. Cosmic evolution violates all known laws.

There is a difference in our two faiths, and they are both faiths as their is NO not one iota of evidence for evolution you have to believe in it.

Anyways the only difference is that Creationists hink all dogs came from 2 dogs on Noah's ark, you on the other hand think all dogs came from wet rocks. Way to go on the logical thinking, I can see you deny ignorance!

reply to post by The Matrix Traveller

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More or less it presents various scientists that the movie claims were "Expelled" out of academia for presenting pro-ID views. However, if you do any independent research, you quickly see that the movie stretches the truth almost to a breaking point on alot of the claims or outright lies. It also has an obsession to try and prove Hitler's primary motivation for the holocaust was Evolution.

Well duh, if so mice mate and they produce a snake, that would throw a huge kink in Evolution. Now, for actual observed speciation click
www.talkorigins.org...



Nevermind that cosmic evolution has nothing to do with biological evolution, but what exactly does it violate? We can go all the way back to .00000000000000000000000001 seconds after the big band, and quantum physicists are getting closer every day to getting to point 0.



We have abunch of fossils, I think that's proof
en.wikipedia.org...



Is it ignorant to question the idea a 3000 year old story that couldn't have happened no matter what logic is applied besides "God helped out"?

reply to post by FSBlueApocalypse

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Look you are a very intelligent person I believe anyway but there is a little something troubling me with all the B.S. from every one including me and that is where the hell does the future come from?

If the future in two seconds time, the universe was not waiting there for us to experience, all would become nothing!

So please tell me how the whole universe is recreated in Zero time repeatedly for you to experience anything at all or is this one big illusion and we aren't even here at all?

If the Universe evolved how the hell could future come into being and did it evolve too?

But I am just a little educated and I know that "Time" is a measurement in the rate of change in things.

We all learnt that at Uni

But how is Future produced? Has it evolved if so from what to what please define!