FOCA - H.R. 1964; S. 1173

Here is the House version: H.R. 1964
thomas.loc.gov...:H.R.1964:

And the - before, on or after effect concerns me as well.

SEC. 6. RETROACTIVE EFFECT.

This Act applies to every Federal, State, and local statute, ordinance, regulation, administrative order, decision, policy, practice, or other action enacted, adopted, or implemented before, on, or after the date of enactment of this Act.ex]

Here is the Senate version: S. 1173
thomas.loc.gov...:S.1173:

the no interference section basically takes choices away. No State, Fed, Local Gove't, Individual, Medical center, Medical Staff, can refuse, regulate, create laws, or anything even if it goes against religious beliefs/
Ir, you could get sued Civil, prosecuted Criminal, possibly lose liscense, job, funding, all sorts of ramifications.

SEC. 4. INTERFERENCE WITH REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH PROHIBITED.

(a) Statement of Policy- It is the policy of the United States that every woman has the fundamental right to choose to bear a child, to terminate a pregnancy prior to fetal viability, or to terminate a pregnancy after fetal viability when necessary to protect the life or health of the woman.

(b) Prohibition of Interference- A government may not--

(1) deny or interfere with a woman's right to choose--

(A) to bear a child;

(B) to terminate a pregnancy prior to viability; or

(C) to terminate a pregnancy after viability where termination is necessary to protect the life or health of the woman; or

(2) discriminate against the exercise of the rights set forth in paragraph (1) in the regulation or provision of benefits, facilities, services, or information.

(c) Civil Action- An individual aggrieved by a violation of this section may obtain appropriate relief (including relief against a government) in a civil action.

If you like this, well, there ya go.
If you don't, here is a petition opposing this soon to be implimented act.
www.fightfoca.com...

Remember what Obama said:
The first thing I’d do as President is sign the Freedom of Choice Act. That’s the first thing I’d do.

also:
here is a video of Obama - Planned Parenthood
Barack Obama Promises to Sign FOCA
www.youtube.com...

More Federal Imposed Doctrine. The Gov't has become a cancerous growth upon society. Less is more.

[edit on 20-11-2008 by imd12c4funn]

Surprise! Surprise! Finally striking the last nail in stealing abortion regulation from the states. Before Roe v. Wade, abortion regulation was a states' right. It looks like the beginning of the Socializing of the federal government, aka stealing all of states' rights, is going to start with the mass killing of our children. Welcome to the United Socialist States of America everyone!

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Sooo...

What's the big deal? I'm prolife, but what is different in this bill than what people do now? Isn't this just restating what's already going on?

I kinda take Ron Paul's stance on the Life/Choice subject.

So what's the difference compared to what women do now?

-Lahara

If F.O.C.A. becomes law it could lead to the closing of Catholic hospitals, as they will not perform abortions. That is alot of hospitals.


Barack Obama's Abortion Position Could Result in Closing Catholic Hospitals

www.lifenews.com...



[edit on 11/20/2008 by sad_eyed_lady]

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The key word and difference is "viablity" they are trying to eliminate late term abortions. Rather smart to me. Pass this into law then this word becomes the battle and no longer the right to choose. IMO i may be wrong.

"concerns me, concerns you, concerns us" is a matter to the individual.

If you oppose all forms of abortion, thats to do with you and what your values are, not necessarily anybody elses. You percieve a baby from the the starting day of pregnancy, others see it differently. This isnt a one sided world.

I oppose abortion unless it is in the case of rape and incest. I am STRONGLY in favour of abortion to be available for the case of rape and incest. I dont think women should have to go through such a horrible cycle after suffering something worst. It should be available and these rightwing nuts who wish it to be banned completely should be told to keep out of a horrible situation another individual had to suffer because you dont know squat.

My opinion... if you want to go around preaching individual freedoms, preach it on all sides and all levels, not just your own.

This complete anti-abortion anti choice to those woman, especially after the horror of rape and incest, is a result of yet another religious infestation of the legal system in this nation. Intigration of church and state, this is what the founding fathers warned us of, and yet these hypocrits while advocating individual freedom of choice and religion continue to impose their extreme religious views over this matter.

As far as I can see it, if the individual chooses to do something against what is christian, thats their choice. Christianity is up to the individual and they shall be judged as such. We have NO business imposing our own relgious beliefs onto somebody else.

The conservative christian wingnuts have already taking this country down far enough, and with their "israel first,anti-gay rights, anti-choice for women" policies have continue to divide this country and have assisted in bringing it to where it is.

Get off your religous BS and keep out of the laws of the land, as the constitution would prefer it and as the diversity of this nation would prefer it. You keep to your own and others will keep to theirs.

[edit on 20-11-2008 by southern_Guardian]

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Originally posted by southern_Guardian
I oppose abortion unless it is in the case of rape and incest. I am STRONGLY in favour of abortion to be available for the case of rape and incest. I dont think women should have to go through such a horrible cycle after suffering something worst. It should be available and these rightwing nuts who wish it to be banned completely should be told to keep out of a horrible situation another individual had to suffer because you dont know squat.

My opinion... if you want to go around preaching individual freedoms, preach it on all sides and all levels, not just your own.

The conservative christian wingnuts have already taking this country down far enough, and with their "israel first,anti-gay rights, anti-choice for women" policies have continue to divide this country and have assisted in bringing it to where it is.

I have conservative values. I register to vote as an independent. Conservatism is not a political party; it is a philosophy.

Many, many Democrats are Catholic. Many, many Democrats oppose abortion. Some for religious reasons, others for philosophical or humanitarian reasons.

While I agree with you that a woman should not have to carry the result of a rape or incest, I disagree with you that it is a right vs left thing. It is an individual thing.

Posts such as yours are what keep this country divided - trying to lump all pro-life people into one group.

I am very anti-abortion, but in certain cases I can see its need, ie incest rape or terminal complications for mother or child. I am not religious so please leave religion out of this. I have had a child aborted on me with out my say as a father so I understand all aspects.