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Topic started on 20-11-2008 @ 03:58 PM by ExistenceUnknown

Dow off 445; S&P hits 11-year low


articles.moneycentral.msn.com
The Dow closed at 7,552, off 5.6% on the day. It was the lowest close for the blue-chip index since Oct. 10, 2002, the day after its 2002 bottom.

The S&P 500 was down 54 points, or 6.7% to 752, its worst close since April 14, 1997. The close also was below 776.76, the closing low in the bear market that erupted after the dot-com bust and the Sept. 11, 2001 terror attacks.

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reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 04:33 PM by GoalPoster
reply to post by unityemissions



And a star for you, bubbaloo . . .

Clearly in discussing this with a lot of people, the severity and depth of the economic trouble in which we ar mired has not hit the masses yet.

In my workplace . . . automotive . . . there are still quite a few people who just don't get it. It is the same on the street . . . more chit chat about the latest reality television show and a glazed over look when it comes to discussing the economy and what is going on.

There's a mall right down the street from my workplace. The parking lot was jammed today when I shot out to one of our other plants for a meeting.

Unbelievable . . . and a lot of people are chatting up Christmas without a worry in the world.

Is it that they don't believe what they hear? Is it that they're not listening?

Or maybe it doesn't look all that bad to them yet.

Take a look at what has transpired over the past couple of months. Remember how our elected officials screamed a couple of months ago that if the bailout did not pass, money wouldn't get into the hands of the folks on 'main street' and there would be a collapse of our system. We heard veiled threats of martial law, lines for food, no jobs . . . hell in a handbasket, so to speak.

Well, the bailiout passed, no money went to mainstreet, the financial sector used a good chunk of it to make the rich richer, credit markets are still tighter than a drumskin and the corporate elite still go on their junkets, fly their corporate jets, vacation on the Company's ticket and generally live as though nothing was amiss.

In short, the powers that be don't appear to give a rat's patootie about it, so why should we.

Christ, take a look at the list and it's just from the last day or so . . .

Two of three CEOs on The Hill this week would not cut back their salaries in a 'gesture' of faith while they fellated Congress and the Senate for taxpayer dollars . . .

The president's twenty-strong dinner party sipped on $500 bottles of wine while discussing this economic catastrophe . . .

Some banker in South Carolina takes an $18 million buyout only after receiving a $347 million bailout from the government trough . . .

The presidential inauguration will most likely send Washington DC into bankruptcy . . .

So, what the hell are people supposed to think . . . it is business as ususal for Congress, the Senate, the President, the corporate shills, the economic elite and all those who cried wolf a few months ago, so why shouldn't it be business as usual for everyone else?

So . . . I guess it will take something catastrophic to make them take notice and until then I can only surmise that it is business as usual.


reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 05:52 PM by ExistenceUnknown
reply to post by GoalPoster



From my general day to day dealings with people I find that Ignorance really is bliss. They don't want to think about how the markets can affect them. They just want to be left alone and allowed to watch their "reality TV" while ignoring the true reality.


reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 06:49 PM by ExistenceUnknown
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I've heard alot of estimates be around 5000...The real doom and gloomers estimated 3000.. I hope for our sake that 5000 is the bottom.



reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 06:53 PM by 2 cents
reply to post by ExistenceUnknown



3000!

That would be 75% off the high of 14,000. I think during the great depression it went down about 60-70% (not sure - just off the top of my head from what I can remember).

5000 is 65% off the high.
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