GOP Congressman: 'It Is Not Your Money', page 4

reply to post by grover

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In a sense, if you go to a restaurant and eat some food -- the money that you owe for that food is no longer your money. So in that regard, yes, tax money is not yours.

However, the Government is a "service" for the Greater Good of the people. If, on our behalf, the government bails out a company for services NOT RENDERED -- but merely to prevent some alleged damage we might endure, this is really something we should watch.

We OWE the Government -- but when the money is spent, the government OWES us an explanation, and due diligence.

But frankly, this is like me going into a restaurant, and ordering a burger. Instead, you bring me a steaming pile of horse dung, and ask me to pay $1,000 bucks. My response would be; "I didn't order this." Fortunately, I don't have to sell my house and move to another country to change restaurants.

reply to post by Keyhole

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In my cynical moments, which have been more frequent lately, I can see the silver lining in an Iranian mushroom cloud in Washington, DC.

reply to post by marg6043

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All I can say is for people to show this out rage in all the E-mails they can write to those corrupted morons in Washington.

I am one of the few people I know who actually takes the time to E-mail my State’s 2 U.S. Senators and my district’s U.S. Congressman.

I always get the same types of automatically generated form E-mails back! If I write urging not to renew the Patriot Act when it’s up for a vote, they write back saying “Good news our office is in Washington D.C. working hard for you on…” this piece of legislation and that piece of legislation that will fix this and give you that and somewhere in that form letter it will say…and as always America’s security comes first which is why I am supporting renewing the Patriot act.

They don’t ever to seem to read the E-mails or respond to the E-mails beyond putting you on their generic mailer and an auto response on their offices current pending legislative agenda.

It’s a joke!

I think we need to take it one step further and truly concerned citizens in each district should start their own lobbying organizations by funding them off of membership and donations and training someone from it to actually be a genuine lobbyist and to fly them to the Capital periodically to actually get in the representatives ear and face with a real list of names of people who share the same view that funded the trip to tell them about it.

It works for the corporations and other special interests; I believe it would be worth trying too as citizens.

I have to be honest; I hardly know one American who isn’t angry right now at something or someone Government related or business related that they believe should have been better regulated by the Government.

Yet beyond voting for the same old political parties and political machines no matter how they disguise or sell themselves once every four years, no one seems to ever do anything but be angry.

Usually as they get right inline to do the very thing that contributes to what they are angry about!

I think too much anger and too little sensible action and conduct has reduced us to this sorry state of affairs.

Henceforth I have decided to be ‘happy’ about everything and everyone, but have also decided to take a much more direct and active role in telling everything and everyone what would make me ‘happier’ still!

reply to post by CharlesMartel

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I never said we did.

I merely pointed out what should be obvious... taxes are the price we pay to live where we live and the way we live and to grudge them is ultimately to grudge the nation.

If you want to live in a place with low to no taxes try Liberia... trust me you won't like it.

But if you want safe streets, paved roads, clean water, a strong military to protect us and all the benefits you gain by living anywhere in the developed world you have to pay for it... and that payment is taxes and those taxes go to benefit all of us i.e. the nation.

And btw I don't agree with or like the congressman's attitude either.

This is how Washington explains the Bailouts to us.It all makes so much sense now.


All I can think of when watching this is it is sad but probably true in so many ways.

reply to post by grover

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The problem is, most of our taxes don't pay for any of that stuff. The taxes just pay money that we "owe" to the central banking system. Safe streets? Tell that to somebody in an inner city. Paved roads? There's quite a few that aren't in these rural areas. Clean water? I suppose we should have to pay for the toxic chemicals they put into it. Strong military? Awesome, we can roll over countries that have nothing to do with us.

But the banks, OHHHHH BOY do the banks get their cut.

So yes, I hold a grudge about it. And for you to tell me not to, that's just despicable. I certainly will hold a grudge if my money is taken by force and just given to some rich fat a-hole in Europe to roll around in.

reply to post by grover

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Grover, the money we pay in taxes and send to DC does not make it the governments money, Its sent 'In Trust' to DC to pay debt to other nations and provide for the welfare of the country as a whole.....at least it was supposed to be.( Article 1; Sec 8) The Critters in DC have conveniently forgot that fact, and its plain to see that most of the public has also!

Zindo

reply to post by grover

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"The nation" IS "we the people". That means it is still "ours."

However, this isn't actually "tax dollars" is it? Doesn't the money for the bailout come from the treasury, and doesn't the treasury get the money from the federal reserve, and doesn't the federal reserve print the money out of nothing? And don't these actions increase the supply of money and make the dollars in "our" pockets more worthless than they already are? And we still have to pay it all back, somehow?

This is the way I understand it. Feel free to correct me if I'm mistaken.

Regardless of the technicalities, I believe it is more "our" money than it is "theirs".

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