Originally posted by Frankidealist35
I agree. It's all a load of BS. His mother was born in America, so he's an American citizen, even though his father came from Africa.
He was born in Hawaii and his mother is a natural born american citizen, so yes it is completely BS, his is most definatly a natural born citizen.
Notice how the neo-conservative apologists here have moved away from the accusation of him being born in kenya and what not and are now trying to
focus on indonesian duel citizenship... complete fail.
Let me go over this with you folks again... and I will be repeating this in other threads.
Indonesian citizenship is given to:
1. A child born of the marriage of an Indonesian couple;
2. A child born of the marriage of an Indonesian man and foreign woman -- the status of which does not cause dual citizenship;
3. A child born of the marriage of a foreign man and Indonesian woman, both of whom request Indonesian citizenship for their child -- the status of
which does not cause dual citizenship;
4. A child born to an unmarried Indonesian woman, the status of which does not cause dual citizenship;
5. A child born in Indonesian territory that is not provided with citizenship by his or her parents;
6. A child born in Indonesian territory whose parents are unknown;
7. A child born in Indonesian territory whose parents have no citizenship.
Source: Draft revision of citizenship law No. 62/1958
Notice the "child born" term there, that is in the case of a child as a result of an indonesian citizen and a foreign citizen.
-Even though Mrs Dunham married her Indonesian partner Obama was still not legally recognized as a citizen. As many here have said, including the
anti-Obamanians here, indonesian laws during the times were strict on granting foreign citizenship. If Obama was 5 or under at the time his mother
married his indonesian step father, he would have been granted indonesian citizenship, but because he was 6years old that didnt apply.
-Obama left back for Hawaii at the age of 10years, that means his time spent in Indonesia was 4years. In the Indonesian constitution an individual
would have to stay atleast 5years in indonesia if over 5years old to apply
for citizenship. It is important to note that the 5years has
recently been extended to 15years.
-Even if for some reason officials went against the strict laws of indonesia during the 1960s and granted Obama citizenship, the very fact he left
back for Hawaii in under 5years ment that any chances of him keeping his citizenship were stripped. Indonesian law never recognized duel
citizenship and therefore he never had citizenship
-The kenyan citizenship "claim" was debunked numerous times by factcheck.org and politifact.org.
They do not recognize duel citizenhip and Obama cannot automatically gain citizenship even though his father was a citizen for various reasons as
stated in the link above.
-Obama has provided the short form of his birth certificate as has the other candidates. The mans been running for 2years under the watch and analysis
of both the Clinton and McCain campaign, under this current Republican administration and under the CIA/FBI and NSA organisations. The notion that
some how they can be duped and mislead is... well.... ridiculous and hypocritical towards the many other arguments made in favour of the right
-this "if only he would show just that one" BS is just another ploy for the right here to throw more mud following their bashing on Nov 4th. The man
has provided enough evidence to the appropriate officials and like every other candidate has provided his birth certificate to the public to see where
it has been verified as authentic by the major news outlets, the fact checkers and most importantly the state officials.
-The only people crying foul here are the same folks who have been posting other garbage about the democrat candidates. People who happen to be of the
conservative base. People who have always had nothing but issues with those on the left (as could say for the otherside by nevertheless) this stinks
of partisanship, and it is partisanship bickering.
I am actually real glad that we are finally towards the end of this where the supreme court will confirm the Obama as a natural born citizen. Will
those over here be satisfied? No... apparent everybody who is not of the conservative base is in on this conspiracy. Just like the last 8years of
lies... oh wait no the administration over the last years were those of the conservative base. My... the nation is in a great mess aint it?