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Topic started on 20-11-2008 @ 08:53 AM by DocMoreau

Arraignment set for Cheney, Gonzales in Texas


news.yahoo.com
A Texas judge has set a Friday arraignment for Vice President Dick Cheney, former U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales and others named in indictments accusing them of responsibility for prisoner abuse in a federal detention center.

Cheney, Gonzales and the others will not be arrested, and do not need to appear in person at the arraignment, Presiding Judge Manuel Banales said.
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reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 09:11 AM by DataWraith
All I'm gonna say on this is:


Money Talks and Sh*t Walks.



reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 09:14 AM by kosmicjack
www.mysanantonio.com...

There is the story about the DA not showing. Hmmm, I wonder why he would kick up such a fuss, convince a grand jury against all odds to indict Darth Cheney and then fail to show? Skeered and Afeared? Of what? Of who? Rhetorical questions all.

[edit on 20/11/2008 by kosmicjack]


reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 10:17 AM by DocMoreau
reply to post by kosmicjack



Exactly. Even though they were rhetorical questions, it is pretty weird to go to the trouble to indict someone (especially those someones) and then decide to take a rain check on it all. Some of the articles discuss how the prosecutor is a 'lame duck' and will be out of office soon. Perhaps this is his blaze of glory, that he never thought would get this far?

DocMoreau


reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 07:04 PM by DarkspARCS
Star for you Doc...


I wonder how this would play into Double Jeopardy laws?

Imagine, he's indicted and because the DA doesn't show up, the case is dropped or otherwise insufficiently tried...then, the issue is closed never to be opened again...


I believe that is exactly what is going on here.

Furthermore, it's my belief that Bush's pardoning of himself against war crimes at the Federal level may have indeed been passed in both Congress and the Senate, and therefore when the arraignment date came it was too late. Being that the State of Texas wants to protect their precious ex-president from anyone trying to charge Him or any of his other Texan cronies for similar actions using similar laws, they manufacture charges related to those Bush pardoned himself for (which may be untouchable at the Federal level but can still be challenged at the State level), and then close the issue by a default - which closes it permanantly from future prosecution - thus now protecting Cheney and Gonzales from complicity as well.

The Bush Administration can still be indicted by the World Court for these charges, if someone takes the step to approach the Hague with legitimate evidence (such as the documents and other things Bush has placed FOIA exemptions on) and produce a case.

There is however another loophole that can be used to bring about a justified end to the means provided, and that is if someone then takes the parties to be indicted and include the State of Texas into the mix and indict them all on Conspiracy to commit war crimes against the people of the United states of America (s not capitalized on purpose). But nobody's going to do it...

And there you have it - special, huh?

I think this thread got cherry picked, and it is not a symbol of the apathy of the membership of ats. i hope not.


Face it Doc, there's been a tremendous amount of scandal flooding Americans lately, perhaps it isn't apathy, but instead heart break and absolute disbelief in all that we hold dear being RAPED in front of our faces.

I'd like to call it shock...

I predict a severe backlash on all that's happening, so if you're looking for a reaction, get ready to reap the whirlwind when it approaches because you're gonna get alot more than hoped for reaction - wise than a post frenzie to your efforts !...

Thanks for your efforts by the way, hope you got my back like I got yours when it happens.
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