New York Police Fight With U.S. On Surveillance
www.nytimes.com
 An effort by the New York Police Department to get broader latitude to eavesdrop on terrorism suspects has run into sharp resistance from the
Justice Department in a bitter struggle that has left the police commissioner and the attorney general accusing each other of putting the public at
risk.
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The FBI and the NSA seem to have the ultimate authority on domestic surveillance and wire taps. I dont understand why they are not ready to share it
with NYPD. Is it that the NYPD does not have the expertise and network to aid the FBI and NSA? I feel they must play an important role.
The truth is that illegal surveillance goes on in the US via the direct authority and order of the President. While I agree that it is necessary,
sometimes innocent people get harassed in this process.
And how many terrorists has the govt captured using the doemstic surveillance program?
www.nytimes.com
(visit the link for the full news article)
[edit on 20-11-2008 by sunny_2008ny]
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Originally posted by sunny_2008ny
The FBI and the NSA seem to have the ultimate authority on domestic surveillance and wire taps. I dont understand why they are not ready to share it
with NYPD. Is it that the NYPD does not have the expertise and network to aid the FBI and NSA? I feel they must play an important role.
What's one more hopelessly corrupt governmental body in the ruling junta, eh?
The truth is that illegal surveillance goes on in the US via the direct authority and order of the President. While I agree that it is necessary,
sometimes innocent people get harassed in this process.
It is absolutely *not* necessary. When an innocent gets harassed or damaged, the origin of that harassment should pay massive compensation and face
charges in *public* for their illegal, unthinkable behavior.
And how many terrorists has the govt captured using the doemstic surveillance program?
Probably a few. But the former translator from the FBI wiretap division (Sibel Edmonds) reported that the State Department let the "terrorists" go
because they might "spill the beans". This is not a parody. Look it up.
[edit on 11/20/2008 by anonymousATS]
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This is the biggest screw up in history.
Just like when Americans are being stopped at the airports. You have your laptops taken at a whim, you do not even have to have a record ,nothing
They take you stuff and tear it apart and keep it up to 90 days . You get it back broken and they do not have to pay for the damages.
You are asked over and over if you have porn on your stuff. Well not all of us look at porn. Or if you have a movie on your computers!
This is looking for Bad guy's from over sea's . I do not think so.
Most of you that are younger have no idea the rights that have been taken from you If you did you and millions of others would get together and have
it stopped.
The only ones being searched are the people of this country, and they ask why the Airlines are not being used?
The economy that we are in now is a direct result of the secret orders that have been passed that they can do with out us the people even knowing we
might be breaking the law. You can not follow a law that is secret!
We have two wars going on, and only one of them was directed at the terrorist. The other one was at Iraq. Well I did not like the nut case that
ran that country. But if they where going to go to war they could at least told the truth as to why.
Another thing, if they want to go to war and put us under war time rules then have Congress declare war. That is why we have those rules . And they
are not being followed. This way the cowards in congress can say , well we did not have anything to do with this. lol
It is all our faults for letting this happen.
I am going to give the new president the benefit of the doubt and see what he does. But if he is a smart man he will undo this mess before it is to
late.
When I watch the news I can see the fear on the faces of the Congress men over what is happening with the economy. That right there tells me a
lot!
Company's have stopped going over seas and doing work by using the Airlines as they have data on there workers computers that can and will be
taken and read. No one should have this power. And for people who think that they do not record and use this data that is not theirs is fooling their
selves . I'm not talking about illegal stuff either. This way they can get by NDA's and things the courts will not let them have. I am no big fan
of big company's that have ripped off millions here in the U.S . But I am a fan of rights.
I am seeing people pulled over on the roads more and more for no reason. Not speeding , nothing . And they want to search you car or truck. You
have nothing in your car , but if you do not let them search then you have to be guilty Right!
I am sure that I am not the only one who is seeing this go on around us.
Even on the local news they are talking about how they have the need now to pull over every car or truck that they can to see if they can write a
ticket . The City's need the cash is what is said. Well now that is the right thing to do. Lol this is way out of control and getting worse!!
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Originally posted by Daedalu
We have two wars going on, and only one of them was directed at the terrorist. The other one was at Iraq. Well I did not like the nut case that
ran that country. But if they where going to go to war they could at least told the truth as to why.
We have three wars going on. The third war is against the citizens of the US by the criminal trash running this country.
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