China, the largest holder of US Treasuries, Chimerica, Obama and the dollar bubble, page 1


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Topic started on 20-11-2008 @ 12:36 AM by Jazzyguy
China Now Largest Holder Of US Treasuries

The next time Congress wants to raise a $700 billion bailout fund or put together a new package to help a firm like AIG (AIG), Washington is going to have to call Beijing.

As the budget deficit grows each year and is likely to expand at a more rapid rate during a recession as receipts fall and the need for a social safety net rises, the Treasury is going to have to get deeper and deeper into the money printing business.

While it is nice that China continues to buy up the paper, since the mainland's own economy may move into a recession, it raises the question of how long the central government can continue to be a net buyer at current levels.

Raising money for the US federal government could be a lot more difficult in six months or so.


This has all the making of the next bubble, the dollar bubble. Poor Obama, this might happen on his watch.


Obama's priority focus on China

In essence, we need the Chinese to be supportive of US monetary easing and fiscal stimulus by doing more of the same themselves. There needs to be agreement on a gradual reduction of the Chimerican imbalance via increased US exports and increased Chinese imports. The alternative a sudden reduction of the imbalance via lower US imports and lower Chinese exports would be horrible.

There also needs to be an agreement to avoid a rout in the dollar market and the bond market, which is what will happen if the Chinese stop buying US government bonds, the amount of which is now set to increase massively.

Memo to President-elect Barack Obama: Don't wait until April for the next G20 summit. Call a meeting of the Chimerican G2 for the day after your inaugural.

Don't wait for China to call its own meeting of a new ''G1'' in Beijing.


But president-elect Obama is trying to end "unfair trade practices" and try to ship job back from overseas. Oh, I can't look.


reply posted on 20-2-2009 @ 11:16 PM by ahimsa
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It feels to me that it is the goal to collapse all currencies. I could be wrong, but it sure does feel that way.

So, what does happen if China decides to get their money back from the US? Would they actually get to own some of our states or do they just get paid in our dollars which the government here seems to be able to print at will?


reply posted on 20-2-2009 @ 11:25 PM by Jazzyguy
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Would they actually get to own some of our states or do they just get paid in our dollars which the government here seems to be able to print at will?


No, china will get more access to US market and the inner mechanism such as the banking system both of the US and the world's.
The US Government cannot just print money at will, it'll cause hyperinflation, just like what happened to Zimbabwe recently.


reply posted on 21-2-2009 @ 07:36 PM by Jazzyguy
reply to post by Bamaisin


I know the fed is privately owned, and if push comes to shove then there's no other way but to destroy the dollar itself. It'll be extremely messy though.

When the dollar is destroyed, automatically china will become the new superpower (sort of).
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