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New friendly fire coverup: Army shreds files on dead soldiers


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reply posted on 21-11-2008 @ 11:44 PM by dooper


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Shrodiger, the truth is, there's no hard and fast rule. There's no good-for-every-situation rule.

If two helicopters crash into each other, then yes, by all means, this was clearly an accident where no combat was directly involved. If a truck in a convoy rolls over and kills someone, then yes, tell the truth.

But in the heat of combat, when there is shooting and dying, in a sense, these men did die in combat. For whatever reason, it appears to be more acceptable to the families if their loved one died fighting. Went down swinging. And even in unfortunate events of blue on blue, they really, really did.

Some of the damndest things happen. A mortar round will bounce off a limb and land right between your legs and not go off. An artillery round will impact six feet away and not go off. An RPG will bury itself in the rucksack of a man, crack ribs, but not explode. A bullet goes through one side of the helmet at an angle, and just inside, makes a few laps without hitting the head. Things that should have absolutely, positively resulted in death - didn't.

The flip side is when a man has good cover, good protection, is careful and doing it by the book, and a wild ricochet catches him just right, right in the neck. A man goes running forward and crosses into his teammates line of fire.

I'm not saying the tank deal was a good or bad call. But it's a hell of a thing to tell someone that, "well, your son just got his own ass killed by crossing into the line of fire. Sorry your man is dead. His own damned fault."

The Army has done everything it can think of, and has folks who do nothing but study blue on blue and try to anticipate how future events may occur so they may be prevented. The Army isn't this monster that Angel would like to believe. It is made up of soldiers. Soldiers who sometimes make mistakes.

But at least they have their asses on the line trying.

This shredding papers looks bad, whether it was in fact bad, or not. I assure you, there'll be some asses hung out in the breeze over this, and hopefully, lessons learned.

I do enjoy your posts.



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reply posted on 22-11-2008 @ 03:47 PM by toochaos4u


That is horrible why would they cover it up?

To me it is pretty strange that so many are killed with accidents not related to combat. I had just checked from South Carolina and about 1/3 of them are helicopter malfunction and wrecks. One even was reported as just falling dead. A few were from friendly fire.

This gets me one of my long time internet friends died when a helicopter crashed when the engine failed. Our group got together to have a huge chat room dinner and we wished him a safe return.





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