Originally posted by mind is the universe

Originally posted by jd140

Originally posted by mind is the universe

Originally posted by centurion1211

Still, IMO neither arabs or persians should have nuclear weapons.

WHY?

If I can have an apple, then an arab can have an apple.

If I'm not allowed to have that apple then, the arab can't have it.

If we fight over it, then no one can have the apple.

If I have an apple, then I have to respect the fact the arab want's an apple.


Today's simple wisdom for you I hope you get the message rapidly.
Of how silly your point was.

Whats good for the goose isn't good for the gander.

Some simple wisdom for you courtesy of my grand pappy.

My wisdom to you,

Disern what's good for the goose isn't for the gander in this scenario

I'm all ears

Thats a question, not words of wisdom.

I could say that Iran is led by a madman who has already threatened to wipe out Isreal, hates America and your all around sociopath. But then you would say something along the lines of who put us in charge of telling other countries whether they can or cannot have a nuke.

It would go back and forth with neither one of us giving an inch on how we feel about it. So what would really be the point?

Isn't this exctly what happened in the preceding times leading up to the first gulf war. it seems to me that the war machine is in full swing again. demonise the potential enemy, make your own people believe they are threatened, build up the hatred etc etc, The next we'll hear is Osama is being given protection in Iran.

Originally posted by jd140


Thats a question, not words of wisdom.

I could say that Iran is led by a madman who has already threatened to wipe out Isreal, hates America and your all around sociopath. But then you would say something along the lines of who put us in charge of telling other countries whether they can or cannot have a nuke.

It would go back and forth with neither one of us giving an inch on how we feel about it. So what would really be the point?

Well the fact is he's not behaving like a madman. Unless you can prove to me and everyone that he is, be my guest. I have got this thrown at me a bagillon times, and all of them who repeated the same crap you just spewed ended up walking away saying nothing.

You don't know the reality. Why, cus you just fall for the propaganda the politicians and media tell you.

The Iranian leader has not threatened any country. It has been debunked on every single war mongering thread. The Iranian leader has no advantage in going to war with Israel or the USA. Iran is a peaceful soverign nation. It's a democratic country. The people are friendly. The Iranian leader has shown alot of Diplomacy if you care to actually open your eyes and see for yourself, instead of watching fox news all day.


This man, is a legend. Why because he has continuously shown his respect and control despite the taunts and bullying he has recieved since Jan 07 when USA and Israel officially declared war on Iran. He has ignored the lies and propaganda, and remained through to his stand. That is a true respectful leader. If he really wanted Israel wiped off the map he would have done so already. Bear in mind, Israel are giving him every opportunity to do so. But you see, He's a smart man, He isn't playing their games. Actions speak louder than words. His actions are showing loud and clear. No matter what the American media states about him. I hope you become wiser and more aware of the reality


Even G.W bush is eating his own words lately and is putting the tail behind his legs in the last few weeks on his departure to try patch up his idiotic presidency by calling for diplomatic talks with Iran. Wouldn't this suggest that Bush was the madman, or does Bush really think the Iranian leader is a mad man afterall Again actions are speaking louder than words pal. Wake up.


I'm sorry to say but you sound like you haven't a bulls notion about the reality.

Originally posted by whoswatchinwho
Isn't this exctly what happened in the preceding times leading up to the first gulf war. it seems to me that the war machine is in full swing again. demonise the potential enemy, make your own people believe they are threatened, build up the hatred etc etc, The next we'll hear is Osama is being given protection in Iran.

I see the pattern aswell. It's clearly obvious.


It's retarded to be quite blunt.


It's on the television for the last two years. The politicans have been spewing this Iran - Israel war over and over. It's getting really really silly.


I just laugh at them all.
It's hilarious, when you hear the Nazis brainwashing. George Bush get's his colourful bendable map.

Point's the people the "Axis of evil" we must go get this evil


Sure if they are so evil, why can't the politicans go get them? Why do the people have to go fight them.
Dooper says this and that country is bad, so why don't people like Dooper go fight them?


Are we clear people?

Originally posted by mind is the universe

Originally posted by jd140


Thats a question, not words of wisdom.

I could say that Iran is led by a madman who has already threatened to wipe out Isreal, hates America and your all around sociopath. But then you would say something along the lines of who put us in charge of telling other countries whether they can or cannot have a nuke.

It would go back and forth with neither one of us giving an inch on how we feel about it. So what would really be the point?

Well the fact is he's not behaving like a madman. Unless you can prove to me and everyone that he is, be my guest. I have got this thrown at me a bagillon times, and all of them who repeated the same crap you just spewed ended up walking away saying nothing.

You don't know the reality. Why, cus you just fall for the propaganda the politicians and media tell you.

The Iranian leader has not threatened any country. It has been debunked on every single war mongering thread. The Iranian leader has no advantage in going to war with Israel or the USA. Iran is a peaceful soverign nation. It's a democratic country. The people are friendly. The Iranian leader has shown alot of Diplomacy if you care to actually open your eyes and see for yourself, instead of watching fox news all day.


This man, is a legend. Why because he has continuously shown his respect and control despite the taunts and bullying he has recieved since Jan 07 when USA and Israel officially declared war on Iran. He has ignored the lies and propaganda, and remained through to his stand. That is a true respectful leader. If he really wanted Israel wiped off the map he would have done so already. Bear in mind, Israel are giving him every opportunity to do so. But you see, He's a smart man, He isn't playing their games. Actions speak louder than words. His actions are showing loud and clear. No matter what the American media states about him. I hope you become wiser and more aware of the reality


Even G.W bush is eating his own words lately and is putting the tail behind his legs in the last few weeks on his departure to try patch up his idiotic presidency by calling for diplomatic talks with Iran. Wouldn't this suggest that Bush was the madman, or does Bush really think the Iranian leader is a mad man afterall Again actions are speaking louder than words pal. Wake up.


I'm sorry to say but you sound like you haven't a bulls notion about the reality.

Thanks for the insults. I'm glad to see that you are the type who resorts to insulting those who do not agree with you.

This is what I meant when I said "What would be the point". Apparently you missed it or decided to ignore it so you could try and continue this little debate with me. Next time don't throw around the word pal, assume where I get my news, tell me to wake up and tell me I am out of touch with reality. It makes you sound like an ass.




[edit on 20-11-2008 by jd140]

I think the thing that troubles most folks about Iranians having a nuclear weapon is that they seem overly emotional. Like they don't have good sense sometimes.

I laughed my head off when during the funeral procession of the Ayatollah Khomeini, they were jumping around while carrying his casket, and dumped the bastard right out of his coffin, and on the ground! A real class act.

Emotional people shouldn't have nuclear weapons. They don't have the emotional stability to have their fingers on the trigger. The absolutely outrageous claims we've all seen reported in the newspapers and television of the Iranian President demonstrates his lack of awareness and a man of very poor judgment.

In a world of yahoos who are a danger to the world and themselves, this ability to have a weapon by these people who are determined to have nuclear weapons cannot be allowed. It's like giving a six-year old a case of grenades.

The only way stubborn people become convinced that others statements are serious, is to make their decisions very, very painful.

Nuke Iran, get it over with, and let's get on with our other problems. This one doesn't deserve one drop of our blood. Why swordfight with Zorro when you have a Barrett .50 in your hand?

One day, one way or another, we will go to war. Now, or after Iran makes it more complicated?

Look,

I know most of you don't know where Iran is on the globe.

I know most of you would say it's in The Middle East somewhere.

Most of you wouldn't know that it boarders (is sandwiched between Iraq and Afghanistan)

Most of you wouldn't know Iran is the 18th largest country in the World. Over 70 million people. They have a Constitution established in 1979 and a President. The Iranian Nuclear Program was launched back in the 1950s!

Look, I think you guys are really crazy right now. Your in a weird mood. Your riled up and angry. Don't be mad at Iran. They are not our enemy!

I am afraid of where this Country is headed and especially with the posts recently about President elect Obama and the outrage with his race...

The last thing America needs is another War. We are broke. We can't afford a war. We can't even afford our houses, how do you propose we pay for a third war? You have a couple million tons of gold?




[edit on 21-11-2008 by ConservativeJack]

Originally posted by dooper

Nuke Iran, get it over with, and let's get on with our other problems.

That behaviour is not acceptable !!!


And your making a fool out of yourself, in thinking creating more problems will solve the problem!

What other problem's may I add?