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reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 01:14 AM by johnsky
Sorry, but a little comic relief...

"US: Senior Iranian Commando Arrested in Iraq" As quoted as a news title...

I just imagined "I'm here to kick ass and chew bubble gum... once I put my dentures in" being said by an old man in camouflage.



... so anyways.
Iran isn't a threat, plain and simple. They aren't going to launch any attack unless someone hits them first. Last battle they were in was to defend themselves against Saddam Hussein's army... did they counter attack into Iraq? Nope.

When was the last time they attacked anyone outside their borders?
Back during the days of the old empires.


What can they do with low-refined nuclear material?
Well they certainly can't make an atomic bomb with it, you need 95% enriched uranium for that... all you can do with the uranium they have is run a power plant... exactly what they've been saying they want it for.

... well... they're not a threat unless you think they can drop a power plant on you...


All this is, is the US government wanting another war. They need to justify a war, otherwise the public would refuse to support it.
Why do they want war? Well... if you haven't figured that one out by now, you need to read more. Almost every person in power in the White House has some pretty severe investments into Arms Manufacturing, Military Equipment Manufacturing, and, well, Oil.

What makes these people A LOT of money?
War.

It doesn't matter to them who it is, just as long as they have oil, and an army to throw theirs at, they don't care.
The tricky bit is trying to convince the people that it's for a morally decent reason.

Kinda hard when we know the only reasons exist in their pocket books.



reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 01:33 AM by Architect
reply to post by Agit8dChop



Iran will not use that nuclear weapon, unless attacked ( if they got it )


Really...Iran won't use a nuclear weapon unless attacked...I guess you don't pay attention to what the Iranian government says. They have clearly stated their intentions to destroy Isreal the first chance they get.


reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 01:38 AM by duffster
reply to post by Architect




I think you need to go back and do some more research and stop watching the MSM Israel is the one who wants to wipe Iran off the face of the Earth


reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 01:46 AM by TruthTellist
reply to post by Architect



"they have clearly stated their intentions to destroy Isreal the first chance they get. "

You are repeating a statement that has already proven to have never been made.


reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 02:19 AM by TruthTellist
reply to post by sunny_2008ny



Iran hasn't invaded or attacked anyone in 200 years.

You conveniently forgot to mention this fact.

[edit on 20-11-2008 by TruthTellist]



reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 02:45 AM by chips
reply to post by Mdv2



“They clearly have enough material for a bomb,” said Richard L. Garwin, a top nuclear physicist who helped invent the hydrogen bomb


Don't shoot the messenger.

Speaking of the IAEA:

El Baradei: Iran could make a nuclear weapon in 6 months

Beirut , Lebanon- The head of the U.N. nuclear watchdog agency, IAEA chief Mohamed El Baradei sounded an alarm when he said Iran could create a nuclear weapon in six months.

(yalibnan.com)

They aren't exactly averse to a bit of scaremongering, either.


reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 02:58 AM by Mdv2
Originally posted by chips
“They clearly have enough material for a bomb,” said Richard L. Garwin, a top nuclear physicist who helped invent the hydrogen bomb


Fissile materials are, in general, necessary for building nuclear explosives. They are defined as materials whose nuclei release energy when split and which can be split with both slow and fast neutrons. Fissile materials in sufficient quantities, called critical masses, can sustain chain reactions and can therefore be used to fuel nuclear reactors. Certain fissile materials, such as natural uranium and low enriched uranium, cannot be used to make nuclear weapons since they cannot be assembled into supercritical masses in which the chain reaction grows so rapidly that there is a large and very sudden energy release

www.ieer.org...

-- that is, there is an explosion. Practically speaking, there are only three weapons-usable fissile materials, plutonium, highly enriched uranium (made from natural uranium), and uranium-233, which does not occur in nature, whose man-made stocks are very small relative to plutonium and HEU, and which has not been used in nuclear weapons, so far as public data indicate. We will not consider uranium-233 in this report.


edit:

Officials close to the IAEA said that, as of November 7, around 3,800 uranium gas enriching centrifuges were and up running at Iran's plant in Natanz and a further 2,200 were close to becoming operational.

That was more or less the same level as at the time of the IAEA's last report in September, the official said.

"Based on daily accounting records, Iran has produced approximately 630 kilogrammes" (1,389 pounds) of low-enriched uranium or LEU, it said.

It would need 1,700 kilogrammes to convert into high-enriched uranium (HEU) for use in an atom bomb.


www.google.com...

[edit on 20-11-2008 by Mdv2]


reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 05:08 AM by TruthTellist
reply to post by sunny_2008ny



I am compelled to ask you this question:

Are you actually afraid of being killed by an Iranian nuke?

Do you know about the isotope that is in the Uranium in that Region and how it renders it incapable of releasing the energy required for a nuclear blast?

*It can still be used for power generation, the problematic isotope does not affect this.

...And shouldn't you be more afraid of being nuked by Russia after You or your Ally (Israel) attacks the Russian reactor in Iran?

MAD You've forgotten what that means...

Any attack on Iran is a de facto attack on Russia due to their Mutual Defense Pact with the Iranian State(and whose citizens staff the Iranian Reactor).


[edit on 20-11-2008 by TruthTellist]


reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 05:17 AM by sunny_2008ny
reply to post by TruthTellist



I agree that Russian-Iran relations are very friendly. But I dont really see iran being capable of causing any damage to the US hinterland. As for attacking Iran, Israel would make the first move, if any.

I understand your uranium point well though


reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 05:35 AM by TruthTellist
reply to post by sunny_2008ny



So why are you fear-mongering?

You sound like a Fox News repeater, parroting Government talking points almost verbatim.

*Should Iran ever acquire nukes, they will be Russian and will be arrayed in such a way as to allow Iran to have the strategic assurance of mutually assured destruction.

But they don't need nukes, Iran already has a Fifth Generation Biological and Chemical Weapons deterrent system - on par with America's capabilities.
They also have the submarines to deploy them.

I Hope the stupid Americans or paranoid Israelis don't try to 'preemptively' strike Iran. The ensuing conflagration would surely kill most of us... except for the Elite living in their bunkers awaiting the day when they can emerge back into the world - cleansed of the 'useless eaters'

[edit on 20-11-2008 by TruthTellist]



reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 05:43 AM by sunny_2008ny
reply to post by TruthTellist


I liked your comment about being a Fox news reporter !

I am not taking sides with America, it is just that US and Israel have the habit of blowing things beyond proportion with their propoganda.

You are right, not only does Iran have WMD deterrance, THEY HAVE WMD!

US might attack Iran if it passes on WMD to Al Qaeda


reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 05:44 AM by Nineteen
reply to post by pluckynoonez



How ironic that one can imagine that they could gain freedom, in a land so distant from Iran, by destroying its people and contaminating the Middle East with the atomic fallout. This points to the ultimate us and them separation which is exactly why human beings are so easily manipulated by their serpent "leaders" - who do not suffer from racism or patriotism, which is to their advantage.

Low-enriched uranium is only suitable for power generation by the way.

The Israeli Zionists wish to own the land which they claim Yahweh stated was their entitlement back in the days before Moses. No one points out however that the majority of those jews who came from Europe never had ancestors that laid a foot in the Middle East, let alone Palestine itself. Their forebears were made to convert in 742 AD and lived in the region where Georgia is today...thus the chummy relationship current between Israel and Georgia.


reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 06:35 AM by TruthTellist
reply to post by sunny_2008ny



"US might attack Iran if it passes on WMD to Al Qaeda "

You are feigning ignorance.

Iran is currently being subjected to terrorist attacks by Al Queda - which has already been exposed as a C.I.A. Front, the purpose for which it was created.

So why would Iran give weapons to the American Terrorist Group that has been attacking and killing their civilians?

*As I said before, You sound like a Fox News Repeater.
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