Originally posted by prestonposthuma

I must say that I don't think these corporate giants should be bailed out.

It is also my honest belief that a source of the problem here is unions. They may have improved workers' conditions and improved wages, but at the cost of their employers, and now look at the fiasco they are stuck in.

Unions getting bounced out will not make things better. It will if anything make the fat cats fatter. Unions do pay attention. And when they see a huge money making period and none of that money is trickling down to them yet people are getting laid off they strike and force the employers to do the rite and fair thing. I know that the 'rite and fair thing' is a lost concept in todays business but it is alive and well to the ones sweating thier butts off on the manufacturing floor. If the owners of these corporations were honest and fair instead of fat and greedy then unions would not be neccessary.







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Isn't it possible that the rich must get richer to begin with? If not isn't our system designed to implode on itself? Think about it.....if our country is built on a system that has such separation of classes, won't it rot from the inside?

I agree that the American auto workers have dug this hole for their employers. With all the benefits, paid vactions, etc. each worker is getting the equivalent of $72/hour. That's a lot of money per hour! Then, at least half of them are lazy, but know their union will keep them employed no matter how poor their work ethic is. We end up putting out an inferior product compared to our overseas competitors and Americans are reticent about buying American because of it. Some auto workers even sabotage the product when they've been scolded by their supervisor or are mad at their wife - for whatever reason, they don't tighten bolts and I've heard a story of a Coke bottle in the crank shaft.

Solution? Don't De-Unionize, but renegotiate for a more realistic labor cost. Why should auto workers be making more than other labor jobs? If that doesn't work - De-Unionize! A new, realistic union can always be re-formed later. And don't allow any druggies to work - make it strict.

The problem with thhis unions is that they have lost their purpose. The purpose of the labor unions use to be to protect the right and working conditions of the employee.

Now is about how much we can take from my employer no matter at what cost and this time the cost for the unions could be the end of their jobs.

Labor unions need to go back and refocuse on what their purpose should be.