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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 11:53 PM by alyosha1981
reply to post by jcheney



Your right about the abreviation, I was in a hurry when I found the vid so good call on that.I still maintain my opinion that the object is some sort of craft though I just don't think it's cg.


reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 02:18 AM by internos
I don't know to what you are referring when you say that there's no audio: the original footage (right click and save target as..) has the audio. Did someone find out whether there has been some fire near Phoenix on August 19, 2004?


reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 02:20 AM by daddymax
reply to post by alyosha1981



So if it's that close...do you shoot at it? I would definitely drive toward it...armed to the teeth that is! Looks cool...


reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 02:29 AM by alyosha1981
reply to post by internos



I checked the phoenix fire dept sight and searchesd fire reports but found nothing.
phoenix.gov...

[edit on 20-11-2008 by alyosha1981]


reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 02:35 AM by internos
reply to post by alyosha1981


Thanks alyosha1981:
i've just sent an email to Rob Kritkausky and invited him to join the discussion or to share more details about the sighting: i have no clue whether he will join it or not, i hope at least in some reply.


reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 03:06 AM by mopusvindictus
CAUTION DEBUNKING AHEAD





A little photoshop goes a long way, Pic 1 from the vid, captured and saved from a distance, it is not the same location as the color photo no palm trees, no tree branches near the light, color pic of daytime and video NOT the same location as a certainty




Pic 2, Play a bit with contrast and brightness, the mountain range can clearly be seen against the skyline, these lights are indeed on the mountains, you can even make out the lines where the various mountains obscure each others view and see exactly where the fire is nestled




Rehash of daytime image again, not the same location


It is BOGUS, it's just a fire on Hill



[edit on 20-11-2008 by mopusvindictus]


reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 03:13 AM by alyosha1981
reply to post by mopusvindictus



Was that second image enhanced with any stacking software? I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be looking for in the three pics let me know.Thanks


reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 03:19 AM by internos
reply to post by mopusvindictus


That detail, correctly pointed out by you (i did it in the past too), may be explained: the angulation of the daytime shot is different, and besides we don't know when the daytime shot was taken (it could have been taken much time after the video): palm can have beern cut in the meantime (just playing the devil's advocate role) if he had something to hide, then he wouldn't have published any daytime shot at all. Nice work, btw: you may prefer to use the less compressed version here) ?
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