Mothership over MO? With vid!!

reply to post by jcheney

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Your right about the abreviation, I was in a hurry when I found the vid so good call on that.I still maintain my opinion that the object is some sort of craft though I just don't think it's cg.

It's interesting, but why is it that all UFO videos and pics seem to be grainy and blury and so difficult to make out what the heck it is. It leaves so much up to the viewer. 10 different people could see 10 different things.

It would be nice to see a totally clear video or picture that is so obvious without a doubt what it is.

My problem with this video is the “craft” shows no intelligence at all, it doesn’t move at all. It is too still.

Also, why no audio? Really bothers me, whenever someone gets footage that is really close there is no freaking audio. Drives me nuts because if these things make sound the camera should be close enough to pick up something. The Tinley Park footage is the best. There were also several eye witnesses to that event. This does not compare.


[edit on 20-11-2008 by rapinbatsisaltherage]

Because they must have the time to do all this. I have seen several UFOs but have neither the time nor the tech skills to be outside all the time in order to watch for something unusual, let alone photograph it or record it moving, or even have a website.

Your right about the lack of audio I speculate that due to high wind speed any and all good audio quallites were possibly obscured of course I could be wrong, as far as the object not moving well any gues is possible ie scanning, malfunction, you name it we may never know.

this video is old but cool

[edit on 20-11-2008 by Alles]

I don't know to what you are referring when you say that there's no audio: the original footage (right click and save target as..) has the audio. Did someone find out whether there has been some fire near Phoenix on August 19, 2004?

reply to post by alyosha1981

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So if it's that close...do you shoot at it? I would definitely drive toward it...armed to the teeth that is! Looks cool...

reply to post by internos

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I checked the phoenix fire dept sight and searchesd fire reports but found nothing.
phoenix.gov...

[edit on 20-11-2008 by alyosha1981]

link fixed.

[edit on 20-11-2008 by alyosha1981]

reply to post by alyosha1981

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Thanks alyosha1981:
i've just sent an email to Rob Kritkausky and invited him to join the discussion or to share more details about the sighting: i have no clue whether he will join it or not, i hope at least in some reply.

Good idea I had just gone to his site and that would be great if we could get some additional info from him thanks.

is this not a good one for Nablator to try to use his magic stacking method on? I am not pc savvy so i wont even attempt it, but it might be worth him having a go (or someone using his method anyway)

"Stacking" thread

Just a thought

CAUTION DEBUNKING AHEAD





A little photoshop goes a long way, Pic 1 from the vid, captured and saved from a distance, it is not the same location as the color photo no palm trees, no tree branches near the light, color pic of daytime and video NOT the same location as a certainty




Pic 2, Play a bit with contrast and brightness, the mountain range can clearly be seen against the skyline, these lights are indeed on the mountains, you can even make out the lines where the various mountains obscure each others view and see exactly where the fire is nestled




Rehash of daytime image again, not the same location


It is BOGUS, it's just a fire on Hill



[edit on 20-11-2008 by mopusvindictus]

reply to post by mopusvindictus

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Was that second image enhanced with any stacking software? I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be looking for in the three pics let me know.Thanks

reply to post by mopusvindictus

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That detail, correctly pointed out by you (i did it in the past too), may be explained: the angulation of the daytime shot is different, and besides we don't know when the daytime shot was taken (it could have been taken much time after the video): palm can have beern cut in the meantime (just playing the devil's advocate role) if he had something to hide, then he wouldn't have published any daytime shot at all. Nice work, btw: you may prefer to use the less compressed version here) ?

Just look above the glow, you can clearly see the mountain line, the sky has a natural light to it, the mountains appear as Black and the sky is a softer color, on the left in pic 2 you can see the line where the first mountain comes down and you can see the third mtn, on the right, the fire actually ducks behind it and cuts it off

But most clear can be seen the line of the mtns itself across the top 3rd of the image where it is differentiated from the color and brightness of the sky, it can even be seen vaguely in the original footage...

and who ever posted the color image, definitely not the same location unless someone started cutting down palm trees

but the mtn range is missing entirely in the color photo and it's clear there are mts by simply playing with the contrast, as I said the sky will not show as Black under closer inspection but rock will