Mothership over MO? With vid!!

I have SHARED what i knew about this sighting: sorry.
Please investigate the case by yourself and dont quote me anymore.
Thanks.
Internos.

I'm on the fence on this one. If you watch the whole piece of footage all the way through, you will see a portion where the camera zooms out. You can see an orange wall, the supposed UFO, and the street light, as well as an oncoming car:




Is that other picture from his personal website, the daytime picture? (this one below):



It doesn't look like it's filmed at the same spot if the guy's claiming it is.

Also, I was watching the first video, where the guy with the headset (no idea on his name) was speaking about how it was filmed in Northwest Arizona in August of 2004. Why the discrepancy, did he just make a mistake, was it really filmed in Phoenix?

If it was filmed in Northwest Arizona like the guy (in first video, with headset) claims, this could most probably be wild fires. There were many different wildfires burning in California and Arizona in August.

www.disasternews.net...

To me it looks like the video shows 4 different points of flame with the resultant smoke being carried away in the strong winds (which this guy Rob claims were around 30mph).

Sorry, couldn't help myself.

Living in San Diego, CA, we are far too familiar with this. It's a fire.

Also, Internos added multiple threads about this for your convienence. Looks like some people still choose to learn on their own without help So for those of you out there still talking about this being in Missouri, your time could be spent in a lot more productive matter by spitting directly into the wind.

You can never expect something positive by a malignant tumor, right?
Is this analysis from you as reliable as this one :
"Here we go!

Is it a pic or crayons like another poster this week? "
and the story was way different... wasn't it? A pic of crayons....please enlighten us, give us a reason to take your words seriously.

The aliens are here among you. Some of them do not know they are aliens.

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I am ALWAYS skeptical about UFO's and such. Yes, I do believe they exist.
However
I dont believe this is a "hill fire" simply because of the angle in relation to the light pole. If it were from a higher vantage point, yeah most possible answer. This is too low. The hill fire would be burning in mid air at this angle.

May not be a spacecraft but its not a hill fire either.

try again please.

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Your reference to a comment I made in another thread is irrelevant in this one. My reference to spitting in the wind, is actually quite positive if you dont think about it in a negative way. If you can't find something in the search feature and a member like Internos puts 3 previous topics on the same matter (although there are more) and don't educate yourself about the subject first, then why continue discussing it in a inaccurate manner?

I reply to threads in an honest matter. My post aren't supposed to be taken personally or in a negative matter. That's my opinion anyway, you are just expressing yours about me. You are entitled to "feel" them, but in actuality, has nothing to do with this thread and are uncalled for. If you have a problem then u2u me.

Let's stay on topic here,
Discussed many times on ATS, here are some threads:

Convincing video... real or fake?

Battleship UFO

Giant battleship in the sky?

I Google searched "nightime forest fires" (hope this link works) it does show the fire from a distance but does not explain why the object in the vid hovers here goes..
flickr.com/photos/43521640@N00/2453065783/
flickr.com/photos/43521640@N00/2453065783/

[edit on 19-11-2008 by alyosha1981]

Whatever this is, I think it's sort of funny that many folks keep calling it a 'mothership.' If this is truly something alien, then I don't think it's a mothership of any kind. A larger ship than usually sighted, but hardly a mothership.

If we see a mothership, it will be huge, and massively noticable.

I'm confused. Why does the thread title indicate Missouri (at least that is what I think he means) and the video describes an event in Arizona?

I also agree that the daylight picture is missing a lot if very important info and is taken from a different angle. I also wonder, considering that the daylight photo is accurate, if the person filming wan't himself elevated.

I think the fires on the hill is a viable explanation. We need more info to corroborate.

[edit on 19-11-2008 by Freenrgy2]

I used the term "mothership" here as a generic discription for what I believe I saw in the vid.Could be any other type of craft but imo larger then the typical objects seen on other vids.

I was thinking it actually looked kind of small

From what I can tell it is bigger then the "orbs" and lights that I've seen in pics and vids recently and I believe that some structure can be seen in the vid as well.

This looks a lot like something I saw growing up in Ohio.

It's amazingly like the star destroyers in Star Wars...

No way it's a fire on a hill. Definitely not a mother ship. But it's bigger than most UFOs I've seen in videos.

A lot of times when I see these UFOs in videos I always ponder if it's some kind of secret military aircraft. Not this one though. Looks alien to me.

It looks fake to me.

The distance between the light and the ship is not constant during all the shaking.

Ill get this on virtual dub, and use a deshaker to keep the light in one spot, and we will see the ship move.

I think its CGI, and a nice attempt at matching the camera shake, but not perfect.

[edit on 19-11-2008 by ALLis0NE]

However, it does look like fire on a mountain.

Just my opinion.

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Be sure to post a follow up on this one AllisOne. I'd love to hear your conclusions on whether or not you think it's cgi.

I too straddle the fence on this one. I'm just not convinced.

My guess is the original poster didn't know the state abbreviation for MN, and put MO by mistake.

I'm from flatland, so I don't know about the wild-fire story. and with the "definitive" proof of a day shot I should expect to see a mountain where this fire allegedly occured

I dont trust this vid. Doesn't look right.

First off. what ever it is isnt moving , not even in relation to the street light.
Secondly, the "craft" itself doesn't look like a hardened structure, more like smoke almost or some type of photo manipulation, the light itself and its color isnt equal to the saturation or depth of the rest of the video,
as if its some sort of CGI or a fire with smoke.


Also the "Streetlight" bright looks unusual

I just think that the timing of this event and the perspective of the camera casts too much doubt on the footage being a UFO.

You have wildfires in the area at the time and date the footage was filmed in August of 2004.

After watching it many times, I've gotta say that it appears to be a wildfire on a hill. You can see the smoke to the right of the orange lights, as if it were being blown by strong winds (supposedly around 30 mph).

I don't think there's any evidence for CGI in the vid, I just merely think it's a wildfire being filmed at night.

I love UFO vids as much as the next guy, but this one doesn't appear to be a UFO.

[edit on 19-11-2008 by JipStix]