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A man deliberately beheads himself with a chainsaw


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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 12:56 PM by ConservativeJack


Originally posted by shaolin_dragon
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Trouble is, from what i can make out, this was in the UK. Not in the US. Its not the sort of thing you normally hear about in the UK. At least, not that i can recall anything of this kind being on MSM (Sky News)


I think America and the UK share a lot of common culture.

The ones I play with on XBOX LIVE are pretty darn close to being American. Their speech, their jokes...

But nevertheless, maybe we're all screwed!



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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 12:56 PM by grover


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Actually I reread the story and got part of the OP wrong... his house was apparently one of a number on a block to be razed and he had already refused offers for alternative housing... my mistake but given the fact that people are killing themselves rather than be foreclosed on... it was somewhat understandable that i read something different.

None the less... I was wrong.


The hearing heard that the block where Mr Phyall had his flat was to be demolished but he had refused 11 offers of alternative accommodation and eventually the housing association had gone to court to repossess the property.

At the time of his death Mr Phyall, who suffered from mental illness and had attempted suicide before, was the only person left inside the 1960s block when the rest of the properties were boarded up.

Recording a verdict of suicide, Mr Burge said First Wessex Housing Group had done all they could to help Mr Phyall but he was "irrationally opposed to moving".


What was it Oscar Wilde said about England and America... that they were one people separated by a common language.

[edit on 19-11-2008 by grover]



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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 01:04 PM by Locke23


OH #!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thats gotta hurt ,,
pretty messed up stuff



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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 01:05 PM by xxpigxx


Originally posted by ConservativeJack

Americans, gotta love them. Everyone thinks they're entitled to the best, the biggest, the fastest. Except not everybody can be a movie star. Only some people.

Who's at fault more? Democrats for pushing the banks to give out loans to poor people or the poor people for thinking they deserved to live better than their neighbor who's a doctor or a lawyer?



Did you bother to read the article, or you just like posting knee-jerk bull#?

He was British. Clues?

It happened in Bishopstoke

The coroner was from Central Hampshire

The housing was First Wessex Housing Group

Americans do not call apartments flats



And this was not about wanting to be like the Jones's. Again, read the article . . .

the block where Mr Phyall had his flat was to be demolished but he had refused 11 offers of alternative accommodation and eventually the housing association had gone to court to repossess the property.

At the time of his death Mr Phyall, who suffered from mental illness and had attempted suicide before, was the only person left inside the 1960s block when the rest of the properties were boarded up.


Thanks for playing . . . next time learn how to read before you start insulting people.



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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 01:23 PM by nerbot


Originally posted by ThichHeaded
Originally posted by nerbot
Which he did anyway by killing himself. "der"




Dude stfu..

You know people work their asses off to get a house, then when these bankers get retard or a government wants to rape the people, you call them crazy cause they cant figure out how to deal with a said situation. really go away..



No I won't "go away"! If you can't handle anothers personal opinion why are you here?

If you had taken the time to read the article you would have realised this WAS a "crazy" person with mental illness.

He was making a pointless statement in a desperate state of mind in a situation that was unchangable....his flat was to be demolished and he refused to accept alternative accomodation on 11 seperate occasions!

He could have visited the bank in question with said chainsaw and made more of a statement there don't you think AND lived to tell the tale with 3 square meals a day and all the accomodation he needed....free!

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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 01:35 PM by HunkaHunka


Originally posted by ConservativeJack
Now you gotta love a story like this. Man buys home he can't afford. Man sees neighbor get a new Benz. Man leases new Benz he can't afford. Man sees neighbor get a pool, Man buys pool he can't afford.

Man can't pay his bills. So man slices his head off with a chainsaw.

Americans, gotta love them. Everyone thinks they're entitled to the best, the biggest, the fastest. Except not everybody can be a movie star. Only some people.

Who's at fault more? Democrats for pushing the banks to give out loans to poor people or the poor people for thinking they deserved to live better than their neighbor who's a doctor or a lawyer?


Hey Jack! He wasn't American!

Also... he was mentally ill and suicidal to begin with.

So take your self-righteous anti-American rhetoric elsewhere.

And oh yeah.. try "READING THE ARTICLE" next time before spewing venom.



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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 01:43 PM by SailorinAZ


Today upon hearing of this Obama announced that he will be raising the tax on Chain Saws and Chain Saw Oil.
Remember that chainsaws kill people, people do not kill people.
Obama also went on to say that he will be doing everything possible to restrict the use of chainsaws in America.

After this announcement sales of Chain Saws and Chain Saw oil skyrocketed.



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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 01:46 PM by depth om


He was obviously enraged and wanted to leave a mess and message.



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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 01:48 PM by Malfeitor


Sounds like a smart man to me.
Look up the statistics on how many people kill themselves daily, and how. If he'd simply cut himself or taken a bunch of pills, he would have been a statistic. But a chainsaw...well, that raises some eyebrows and gets plenty of attention. The man wanted attention to be called to his death, and why he did it. Mission accomplished, I'd say; most suicidal people don't have enough forethought to make their deaths count for something. Now everyone who hears this story is going to actually think about the economic crisis, especially within the housing market. And since most people who watch the news have the delusion that the world doesn't affect them, this man's suicide might bring the issue a little closer to home.

Personally, I'd pick a quicker way, though; perhaps a stick of dynamite.



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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 01:50 PM by HunkaHunka


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Where would you put that stick of dynamite?





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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 01:50 PM by pause4thought


I pity anyone who gets that desperate.

Maybe if he'd had a few more friends, or if his neighbours had been a bit more concerned about how the situation might affect the mental state of those in the same boat as they were (rather than focussing on their own tragedy), things could have turned out differently. At the end of the day some people cope better with stress than others. Most of us need a little help from our friends, at least.

I see this an an indictment against our society.

And I'm ashamed to say, as a member of that society, it's an indictment on me.



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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 01:54 PM by jibeho


The man clearly put some thought into how he would behead himself.

I guess he ruled out the butter knife taped to the ceiling fan.



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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 02:00 PM by logician magician


OMG! IS HE ALL RIGHT?

Well, at least the guy got what he wanted. They can't take his house now, those suckers! He really pulled a fast on on them rotten bankers! Whose house are they gonna take now, huh? huh?

WHOSE, I TELL YOU?!? NOT HIS THAT'S FOR SURE! HE'S DEAD. WHAT IS HE DOING? YOU CAN'T OWN ANYTHING WHEN YOU'RE DEAD!

Good for him - defeating the evils of the world one suicide at a time!



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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 02:01 PM by Malfeitor


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I can think of two places it would fit, and a few more where it wouldn't; the latter choices would arouse more attention, I think. I can hear it now... "last night some crazy Texan shoved a stick of dynamite up his nose..."
But seriously, this economic situation for which the man killed himself is getting out of hand. When I look at the bills, I see numbers much larger than my rapidly diminishing paycheck. More disturbing is that I can't go near the hunting department of Wal-Mart without hearing nine people talking about buying guns to defend their properties. I've even heard a few idiots talking about gunning for the White House; normally I would laugh and wait for the guys in black to jump out of nowhere, but I keep hearing this more and more. I don't know how it is elsewhere, but here around my town things are turning bad, and fast. Not to say that I'm looking to buy dynamite, mind you.



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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 02:05 PM by Dulcimer


It was an electric chainsaw too. That certainly would not be my first choice.

What a world. What ever happened to blowing your face off? Oh yeah... gun control.



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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 02:08 PM by DDay


I know exactly where this guy got that idea. I was waiting on a report that someone would take a chainsaw to their head.

I saw it on that redone version of the Andromedia Strain with Benjamin Bratt. There was a guy in a drug store and they are watching him on camera and he takes the chainsaw and beheads himself. TV even showed it and I remember thinking WOW...that's a hell of a way to go and quick too. Someone is bound to see this and think yep that's the way I am going to do it.

And here we are....



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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 02:20 PM by sos37


If this man put as much thought into making money or his job as he did engineering a gruesome way to kill himself ... he might not have had anything to worry about with respect to money problems.

I say he had mental issues way before his house was on the chopping block (no pun intended).



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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 02:27 PM by grover


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Reread the article or reread my revised OP... the whole block was slated for demolition... he was offered alternatives and he refused to leave. Plus he was mentally ill.



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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 02:29 PM by psychedeliack


Originally posted by ThichHeaded
Originally posted by nerbot
Which he did anyway by killing himself. "der"




Dude stfu..

You know people work their asses off to get a house, then when these bankers get retard or a government wants to rape the people, you call them crazy cause they cant figure out how to deal with a said situation. really go away..

This guy didn't want to lose his house, didn't want to lose everything he owned, and everything he worked his whole life for.. give some respect, its not our fault the PTB feel like raping the crap out of our country.

[edit on 11/19/2008 by ThichHeaded]


Yes it is sad and I do have sympathy, but still, I think its more sad the dude didnt have the mental or spiritual tools or philosophy to cope with such an unsurprising and common event. I mean really, all one has to do is look at a homeless crack head and realize they have it good even if they too are on the streets. People put so much value into their possessions, you would think they were possessed by them, what makes you cut your own head off with a chainsaw? Objects? society? or a lack of understanding of what truly matters? I think its simply personal problems. Especially if you would do this, what about your family and friends, very shallow and selfish no matter how you slice it. I dont blame the guy though, its just more evidence the television programming is working so well.



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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 02:41 PM by aleon1018


I can imagine the Late night jokes on this one. Electric chain saw pictures and instructions sent as seasons greetings to a former boss or broker along with the article.

It reminds me of people jumping out of buildings when the stock market crashed in 1929......No doubt more bizarre news like this to come. One of the worst I've heard is people setting themselves on fire. Let's not give them any ideas like in some polls and surveys either. Worst and most memorable painful ways to die etc.



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