the pentagon video is so fake, you can tell when the camera moves the object is out of sync and it looks so blatantly super imposed by an amateur I can't believe this thread even got a reply, and how the hell this thread got so many flags I don't know. Perhaps that is the spookiest thing in this whole topic.

Come on, I hope no one really believes that the helicopter footage is genuine. The footage is 100% fake. Anyone can see that the "explosion" is poorly tracked onto the footage.

[edit on 20-11-2008 by Krollspell]

It doesn’t sound like you are a video editor or Electronic Security expert; your explanation fails to setup or provided sufficient background information on the type of video system making the original recording, thereby making your conclusions as presented shaky. 1) You are pressing the key 30+ times because you are looking at NBC's feed and rebroadcast of the footage which is typically 30 frames per second for live TV. 2) If the original recording system was CCTV encoded and compressed prior to recording to hard drive, compression algorithm only updates portions of the screen that change and can result in ghosts for high speed objects for older formats. 3) The original footage appears to be in time lapse mode where only 2-5 frames are recorded every second, so yes, there are frames missing. This is typical for security video recording. 4) Given the resolution of the video, the only way to tell if it were edited is if the original were watermarked and you could examine it.

Nothing to see here really. The camera's frame rate is much slower than the events it is recording. It would not be unusual to see the plane and the explosion on the same frame if the two events are milliseconds apart.

Just basic photography guys...

I have said on here before that I have been flying for 14 odd years half of which has been in heavy jet commercial airliners B747 & B777's ....

The white streak "What ever it is" is flying level just above the ground .... impossible to do in a commercial jet considering the fences , light poles , over passes , buildings descent paths etc.... you would need a long clear run up with out any obstructions to get a large aircraft that level and precise above the ground.

The streak has a sharp pointed nose ... large airliners do not ... if a large airliner had its belly that close to the ground the engines would be scraping in the dirt.... so you would see two huge track marks in the dirt right before impact.

It could have been a plane .. ie: like a laser guided ex military jet that had been converted for the purpose of an attack "remoted controled"/ or a UAV drone or some type of missile.

THIS IS NOT A COMMERCIAL AIRLINER ... I e-mailed the CIA yesterday expressing my concerns on their judgment and evaluation of the footage I have yet to hear back from them. Funny That

I would testify in court as would many of the Pilots for 911 Truth movement.

THIS WAS AN INSIDE JOB.........PERIOD.

Saw the video and frames of it a long time ago, could easily be fake since even in the frames all they show is the head of the plane on the right of the frame. So they freeze a plane frame of the pentagon and do some Zapruder film editing and their good to go...the frame after that is the explosion...never is there an entire plane even shown in the frames I saw coming from the same video.

Well the security cameras used that day did not shoot video at 30 frames per second, which means that the video is not going to show much byond what it could capture, and can explain why at one moment we see the plane on the far right, and then nothing, then the explosion.

The video from the helicopter is shooting at 30 frames per second, which is why more can be seen.

What is intriquing to me is the helicopter footage, not so much the footage itself, but how the "plane" seems to swoop into the frame on the far left, and then stop suddenly for a few frames, then suddenly zipps across the lawn and slam into the pentagon.

Definately strange for a plane going 300 mph to suddenly stop and then streak across the yard and then hit the building. Almost as if the "plane" hesitated for a second or two and then proceeded to hit the pentagon.

No plane or even a missile can just stop mid flight at 300+ mph.

Something definately strange about that.


Cheers!!!!

The DoD film is from a security camera, like the ones used in convenience stores, etc. Trying to analyze this as if it were from a high resolution, high speed camera is idiotic! What's more amazing than the fools who offer these off-the-wall theories are the fools who treat them as they were the least bit credible.

Lets forgetthe corny Helicopter fake footage which is obviously being posted to sidetrack the main point.

Which is The terrible technology of the pentago survellance cameras. Whiz as my friend IvanZanna said amounts to about a slide show.

Now I would like to know how long it was before they released that extra 4th or 5th frame showing a "supposed" plane in one frame? Wasn't it like 6 months or a yar later.

This is not to mention all the other roof surrvellance cams ect, I mean

C'mon Pentagon~!

Your supposed to be the most secured, camera covered building in the USofA, yes we get for slides, and another shady one some 6 months to a year later showing a smoke trail, no wait, a fuselage, no wait...

You know what it shows it shows 6 months of hurried Computer graphics, that were decent enough for the mass of sheep to believe.

Now this helicopter crap. Listen, take that and chuck it in the trash, it does nothing but bad for 9/11 truth it makes us look like fools. Cause its obviously poorly done,and fake.

Just look at te damage, and the neat"punchout hole. Planes don't do this after going through 3 well four reinforced concrete rings(since two intecect), and left a perfect circel. Only Missiles mostlikely the kind shown in that Avatar, comparison, man I love that thing, It's so exact.

But please for whats good of 9/11 truth enough of the helicopter cdoctored footage, and lets lobby to get all the stolen survellience cameras, from nearby hotels, freewats, rooftop of pentagon, at least 3 must have must have caught this things aproach (but thier top of the line equipment , being the US security center), may not be able to catch but one frame of a plane heading at it from a couple miles out at 500 mph. C'mon now this has turned into BS, straight into a joke, and Now Bush wants Full pardons for warcrimes. Mostly ones commited upon his own people no doubt.

Can't want to see Him, Condalisa,and DICK Cheny, swinging ropes.

What I found strange , that building area was unoccupied, under repair, this is good nothing to interfer with biz. And on picture before roof fell, things are laying there, big spools like nothing big came thru there. Ever see like in movie ,one guy is out side waiting for the guy inside to give him something to carry , I don't how to do big engine unless was already in building or wheels?