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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 11:07 PM by spinkyboo
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I have never doubted that it was something other than a plane that caused the damage at the Pentagon.
Wasn't it clearly impossible that the body of that plane could fit into the hole it was suppose to have left in the building?
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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 11:18 PM by Atlantican
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Second clip toward the end is completely fake. The fireball moved with the camera. It's definitely doctored much the same way the crappy "popcorn"
ufo vids have been every other night this past summer. The moving object "swells" as well. Fake fake fake 100%.
His theory on the first (officially released) clip warrants a further review but that might have been tampered with too. I will try it out myself
tomorrow and see what's up.
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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 11:40 PM by angel of lightangelo
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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 11:40 PM by hooptie
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As far as if any of the video presented is fake or not, I do not know. I am not an expert nor claim to be one. I'm just JAFO.... just another
observer.
What has me perplexed are the odds that a helicopter would be positioned flying in close proximity of the pentagon with a camera pointed perfectly to
view only the path of that object flying 4-600 mph into the pentagon at that precise moment. Does that scream bs to anyone or am I full of it? I
think I have a better chance of sitting at a 9 player no limit texas holdem poker table for 9 hands with everyone going all in every hand and winning
every single one of them.
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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 11:43 PM by angel of lightangelo
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Originally posted by geemony
reply to post by kyleplatinum
Could it be the plane hit at an angle and NOT straight and level, wow what a concept!!! Look at the top of the roof chard beyond the impact area.
Could that have been the right side engines and wing being thrown across the roof top?
I dont know use your imagination seems to me alot of people are doing that.
I keep using my imagination but it does not explain what happend to that wing or where the wing damage is. Care to delve your imagination for a theory
that matches the evidence? I will give you a hint, start with where the wings are.
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reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 12:29 AM by MadSigntist
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Here's one that I'm not sure anyone has touched yet;
In the frames shown in the video, the fire ball appears to be superimposed on top of the
image of the building. Meaning, the building is still intact behind the first frame of the
big fire ball. That is poor editing by the clowns that be.
Also, if that was NOT a plane full of passengers and fuel, where the hell is the plane and
all the freakin' passengers?? The bottom of the mighty Atlantic?
This thing stinks, man.
MS
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reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 12:33 AM by TruthTellist
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It looks like they fired the missile off the back of a truck as it drove down the highway (launched perpendicularly).
A transport truck would suffice, even the favourited U-Haul van would likely suffice.
But I am leaning towards the remote controlled plane theory.
*On 9/11 in 1941 the Freemasonic Cornerstone Laying Ceremony was held at the Pentagon.
*On 9/11 1963 the Freemasonic Cornerstone Laying Ceremony was held at the WTC Towers.
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reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 12:35 AM by cashlink
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You make all these claims now show your sources.
This is a debating forum; you need to show where you got your info from thank you.
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reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 12:38 AM by defcon5
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I don’t claim to be a CGI expert, but man that video is the worst CGI I have ever seen, and that is saying A LOT. If I can clearly see it’s a CGI
fake, then I don’t understand why this discussion of it is 7 pages long.
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reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 12:48 AM by Malfeitor
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There is no way to verify the authenticity of such a low-grade film. If someone could produce a high-def version, or the original, it would be much
easier to make accurate judgements; I don't think the truth will be found with grainy youtube footage.
Not to say that I have a solution, mind you; I'm simply pointing out that most of the debating on this thread are based upon the idea that
internet-grade film is capable of proving that the government lied.
That aside, you can bet your life that the government has documents, recordings, and testimony of all sorts regarding 9-11 which nobody will ever
hear; at least, nobody will hear any of it until some snoop gets lucky in fifty years or so. When it happens, said snoop will be lucky to move ten
feet before being detained or gunned down; the government protects its secrets, and doesn't let sensitive film footage leak to the world-wide web.
That we know of, anyway.
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reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 12:50 AM by TruthTellist
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Are you also of the opinion that this video is a red herring, of sorts?
If so, it is something that can be effectively debunked when mentioned along with Real evidence in order to dissuade the audience from engaging in
further independent investigation.
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reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 12:57 AM by defcon5
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reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 12:58 AM by cashlink
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The damage to the Pentagon was roof to ground.
How dose that prove the video is a fake?
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reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 01:08 AM by cashlink
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that the cameras run on time delay to save FPS.
I just want to ask you a little question who said the cameras run on time delay to save FPS. I will happy for your help thank you.
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reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 01:13 AM by cogburn
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From my perspective, this video is fantastic.
Check this out. It's a plot of the path the "Icke Object" took when it struck the Pentagon.
Not only is that video consistent with the North-side theory, it also is consistent with mine and with the damage inflicted on the Pentagon.
Is the video a hoax? Is CIT a hoax? Am I a hoax?
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reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 01:19 AM by angel of lightangelo
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Sorry that I asked for proof of the crash scene everyone. Sorry.
Not a one line appology.
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reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 01:37 AM by razorvocals
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Here is the original clip of the fake pentagon footage!
As for what really hit the pentagon I don't know. I tend to think it was 77 the real conspiracy is what happened to allow the plane to get there to
begin with!
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reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 01:55 AM by angel of lightangelo
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Originally posted by razorvocals
As for what really hit the pentagon I don't know. I tend to think it was 77 the real conspiracy is what happened to allow the plane to get there to
begin with!
That is the part that certain people do not get.
There are two choices to this argument.
I am right and it was not a plane or
You all were right and it was a plane, now explain how the hell that did happen that moring without implicating the government in at the very least,
willfull negligence.
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