I have never doubted that it was something other than a plane that caused the damage at the Pentagon.

Wasn't it clearly impossible that the body of that plane could fit into the hole it was suppose to have left in the building?

[edit on 19-11-2008 by spinkyboo]

Second clip toward the end is completely fake. The fireball moved with the camera. It's definitely doctored much the same way the crappy "popcorn" ufo vids have been every other night this past summer. The moving object "swells" as well. Fake fake fake 100%.

His theory on the first (officially released) clip warrants a further review but that might have been tampered with too. I will try it out myself tomorrow and see what's up.

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As far as if any of the video presented is fake or not, I do not know. I am not an expert nor claim to be one. I'm just JAFO.... just another observer.

What has me perplexed are the odds that a helicopter would be positioned flying in close proximity of the pentagon with a camera pointed perfectly to view only the path of that object flying 4-600 mph into the pentagon at that precise moment. Does that scream bs to anyone or am I full of it? I think I have a better chance of sitting at a 9 player no limit texas holdem poker table for 9 hands with everyone going all in every hand and winning every single one of them.

Here's one that I'm not sure anyone has touched yet;

In the frames shown in the video, the fire ball appears to be superimposed on top of the
image of the building. Meaning, the building is still intact behind the first frame of the
big fire ball. That is poor editing by the clowns that be.

Also, if that was NOT a plane full of passengers and fuel, where the hell is the plane and
all the freakin' passengers?? The bottom of the mighty Atlantic?

This thing stinks, man.

MS

It looks like they fired the missile off the back of a truck as it drove down the highway (launched perpendicularly).

A transport truck would suffice, even the favourited U-Haul van would likely suffice.

But I am leaning towards the remote controlled plane theory.

*On 9/11 in 1941 the Freemasonic Cornerstone Laying Ceremony was held at the Pentagon.

*On 9/11 1963 the Freemasonic Cornerstone Laying Ceremony was held at the WTC Towers.

[edit on 20-11-2008 by TruthTellist]

I don’t claim to be a CGI expert, but man that video is the worst CGI I have ever seen, and that is saying A LOT. If I can clearly see it’s a CGI fake, then I don’t understand why this discussion of it is 7 pages long.

There is no way to verify the authenticity of such a low-grade film. If someone could produce a high-def version, or the original, it would be much easier to make accurate judgements; I don't think the truth will be found with grainy youtube footage.
Not to say that I have a solution, mind you; I'm simply pointing out that most of the debating on this thread are based upon the idea that internet-grade film is capable of proving that the government lied.

That aside, you can bet your life that the government has documents, recordings, and testimony of all sorts regarding 9-11 which nobody will ever hear; at least, nobody will hear any of it until some snoop gets lucky in fifty years or so. When it happens, said snoop will be lucky to move ten feet before being detained or gunned down; the government protects its secrets, and doesn't let sensitive film footage leak to the world-wide web. That we know of, anyway.

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From my perspective, this video is fantastic.

Check this out. It's a plot of the path the "Icke Object" took when it struck the Pentagon.



Not only is that video consistent with the North-side theory, it also is consistent with mine and with the damage inflicted on the Pentagon.

Is the video a hoax? Is CIT a hoax? Am I a hoax?

Sorry that I asked for proof of the crash scene everyone. Sorry.

Not a one line appology.

Originally posted by razorvocals
As for what really hit the pentagon I don't know. I tend to think it was 77 the real conspiracy is what happened to allow the plane to get there to begin with!

That is the part that certain people do not get.

There are two choices to this argument.

I am right and it was not a plane or

You all were right and it was a plane, now explain how the hell that did happen that moring without implicating the government in at the very least, willfull negligence.