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Unseen Pentagon Footage?!!?! Wow


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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 06:14 PM by arizonascott


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Show me your sources Sparky, prove to all these fine members on ATS that what you are spewing is not just more disinfo smoke!

Come on, lets see the information that verfies what you say, otherwise its just more BS

Mod Edit: Civility and Decorum are Required


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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 06:16 PM by arizonascott


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Yeah, again no visuals on wreckage - look at any old video of a plane crash - look how much is left intact - total BS

Smell - who was there to smell it and verify that sense

Come on



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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 06:18 PM by arizonascott





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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 06:21 PM by arizonascott


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Again, where is the proof in what you say. You just redirect people with empty words - look at the evidence - there is no question - other than the ones you instill in American minds

Poor Phsyops

For the guy below: Ok dude, whatever you say

I am looking out for my country, what are you looking out for?

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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 06:27 PM by Swampfox46_1999


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Your the one that believes the Pentagon was some heavily fortified building prior to 9/11. Thats your right, to believe something that is patently untrue.

I will stick with reality.



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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 06:30 PM by The Undertaker


Can someone explain to my how a 757 doing 500mph apparently maintains a level flight path apparently a few feet off the deck? According to cctv video flight 77 does just this. That video never made sense to me and I find it highly questionable. Also, regarding the smell of jet fuel, I read just the opposite somewhere that the smell of cordite was in the air after the explosion. Can anyone confirm that?

The Undertaker



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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 06:30 PM by anotherdad


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Sounded good until "20 seconds after impact explosion" NO thats not normal. Think of a plane hitting a building.....count to 20. An explosion would have happened.

Why so long to get footage? oh i dont know maybe the building was evacuated. He had me for a few until he himself doctored it to prove his point.

Still feel the same. Bad people flew planes into buildings.



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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 06:31 PM by Swampfox46_1999


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So click on my name and review my posts. Plenty of links to be found.

As for your other posts wanting to know who was there, I have several friends that were there that day. One, spent three days at Bethesda being treated for the wounds he suffered that day. The others, got to help in the clean up, and since they have spent most of their careers in military aviation, I am pretty sure they recognize plane wreckage and bodies when they see them. But again, review my posts and you will find what you seek.



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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 06:37 PM by GenRadek


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Ahh so wreckage found inside the Pentagon, confirmed by all first responders and clean up crews and firefighters, police, military, Red Cross, etc etc etc, is not enough for you? I see. So you expect to find entire pieces of an airplane, whole, just after it has plowed into a building at nearly 500mph, and burned for hours afterwards AND got a part of the Pentagon collapsed on it? Boy you sure do ask a lot, when already in front of you you have the engines, the landing gear, the wheels, dead bodies, and a host of other info.



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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 06:46 PM by arizonascott


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How do you explain the chair and computer untouched on the second floor of that same area, there are images of the fact!



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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 06:50 PM by arcnaver


2nd video, or Helicopter video is the one that looks fake to me. I mean, blatantly fake. It looks like a digital rendition of something streaking across the lawn.

I think this guy is a fraud.
I have seen better evidence that supports a plane hit it. Like actual pieces of a plane. Also the hole is consistent with a impact from that type of plane, the damage was consistent and on and on.



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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 06:51 PM by arcnaver


Originally posted by The Undertaker
Can someone explain to my how a 757 doing 500mph apparently maintains a level flight path apparently a few feet off the deck? According to cctv video flight 77 does just this. That video never made sense to me and I find it highly questionable. Also, regarding the smell of jet fuel, I read just the opposite somewhere that the smell of cordite was in the air after the explosion. Can anyone confirm that?

The Undertaker


Easy, they crash.

Solved.



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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 06:52 PM by Insolubrious











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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 06:58 PM by Jezus


www.metacafe.com...

Is this the same exact video?



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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 07:04 PM by AnAbsoluteCreation


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DeltaBoy, you are notorious for subjective thinking. Look at your post for proof. Why must you visit threads and put your input that is only surface conjecture?

To hell with the Helicopter footage, what about the footage with the firebomb before the plane even hits?

AAC



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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 07:04 PM by seabisquit


Star & Flag.

Further proof that it truly was an inside job.

The next shoe to fall may be another false flag.



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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 07:06 PM by angel of lightangelo





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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 07:09 PM by synyster.


the helicopter vid is clearly fake to me, you see the explosion shaking with the building and its CGI.

i don't know where he got that vid.


looks shady.



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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 07:13 PM by die_another_day


Meh, the plane is too fast and the camera is too slow causing a blur effect. The aerial footage was fake because the projectile was simply hand drawn.

I doubt that this video has any truth.

Pentagon could have easily been struck by a missile or plane. The biggest question on 9/11 was building 7. That's about it.



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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 07:21 PM by GenRadek


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As for the cordite smell, the one problem with equating this with any explosives or missiles or whatever, is this: Cordite was used in the British Navy for their cannons. It was never used in the US (save for the explosives in the two A-bombs dropped on Japan). Other than that, Cordite has never been used for any missiles/bombs/guns/etc in the US military.

However, there are other sources that can smell like cordite. For one thing, imagine how much stuff was burning in the crash site. You have fuel, plastics, wood, people, paper, you have pulverized concrete, steel, god only knows what else.

Since cordite was used in the British Navy and this was WAAAAY back in WWI-WWII, I highly doubt any cordite was used here.



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