Unseen Pentagon Footage?!!?! Wow , page 4

reply to post by ofhumandescent

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The fact that the Pentagon is the most heavily fortified and most secure building in America if not the World tells me there must be dozens if not over a hundred surveillance cameras around it hitting every single angle.

Yet, not one clear piece of attack footage from any of those cameras?

COME ON!!!

Not even a video from the convenience gas mart or bank across the street, which they moved in on extremely fast to take their CC camera footage from that time period. Why did they go out of their way to take those videos?

And the supporters of the original Government story haven't figured that out yet or questioned that fact, they still deny anything fishy is going on.

No wonder America is falling into the abyss of fascist control and American stupidity.

Edited: Point taken - you're right lets not go over the top

[edit on 19-11-2008 by arizonascott]

reply to post by matrix911

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Two things just don't make sense!

1. Why is there only 3 still images being released from this stupid angel when they have thousands of cameras in the premises and the buildings around.

2. The explosion dose not reflect a plane crash but an explosion... the flame/smoke shoots out (even in that odd one frame) which in fact should be spread through the building coming out from the other side... like the 2 towers

3. lastly, how can you trust ANY of the words coming from MS and this corrupt government, use your common sense and see look at the evidence on how many times we have been lied to, yet like sheep we put our heads down and walk in to the butcher shop.

[edit on 19-11-2008 by freighttrain]

[edit on 19-11-2008 by freighttrain]

Originally posted by crmanager
If Jesus himself told you that a plane hit the building you would reply "How do I know you are not working for the Bush/Halliburton war machine?"

Mythical religious figures aren't credible sources.
Heck this isn't even a one line post.

- Lee

Mod Edit: Saying a post isn't a 1-line post doesn't make it any less of a 1-liner.
One Line Post – Please Review This Link.


[edit on 20-11-2008 by Gemwolf]

reply to post by freighttrain

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..thousands no.. hundreds yes.. There would simply be no need to have a thousand or more cameras looking at the pentagon. There are some very advanced cameras out there that can zoom a loooonnnnng way and cover a vast distance. While i agree that they are withholding many many angles of the impact i tend to lean on the side of there only being a few hundred at the most... Lets try to not be sensational it makes you look bad..

reply to post by arizonascott

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I'd have to ask you a few questions on that.

First off, what kind of missile has the wingspan of a 757?
Second, what kind of missile has landing gear?
Third, what kind of a missile has two jet engines?
Fourth, what kind of a missile has passenger seats and luggage and people on it?
Fifth, what kind of a missile has so much fuel so as to create such a massive fuel fireball and smoke?

Originally posted by arizonascott
reply to post by ofhumandescent

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The fact that the Pentagon is the most heavily fortified and most secure building in America if not the World tells me there must be hundreds if not over a thousand surveillance cameras around it hitting every single angle.

Yet, not one clear piece of attack footage from any of those cameras?

COME ON!!!

Not even a video from the convenience gas mart or bank across the street, which they moved in on extremely fast to take their CC camera footage from that time period. Why did they go out of their way to take those videos?

And the supporters of the original Government story haven't figured that out yet or questioned that fact, they still deny anything fishy is going on.

No wonder America is falling into the abyss of fascist control and American stupidity.

[edit on 19-11-2008 by arizonascott]

Would you be so kind as to provide some sort of evidence that the Pentagon is so heavily fortified and protected? Anything at all. Where did you get this notion that it is nearly impenetrable and well protected? If this is so, then why is it just a few miles from the end of Ronald Regan Airport's runway? Shouldn't they keep aircraft away from it? And where are the "defenses" in and around the Pentagon that make it so defended?

www.youtube.com...

Can someone get a higher (than youtube) quality of the helicopter video and share it with everyone? That would be a good thing to spread.

reply to post by arizonascott

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Heavily fortified, whatever. People assumed the White House is heavily fortified yet a small plane was able to hit the place back in the 90s.

Do you know why terrorists use passenger planes instead of fighter bombers? Do you know why American troops get killed by VBIEDs instead of enemy tanks? Because its hard to distinguish between civilian and military. We prefer conventional warfare, not unconventional. Even after Vietnam, the Pentagon brass has a narrow minded view. We were attacked with unconventional tactics.

reply to post by Retikx

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It's not about the numbers of the camera, you're loosing focus on the point I was trying to make and if that makes me look bad then so be it, the point is that there are more then "one" camera showing what has happened and that itself should bring up many questions why are we not allowed to see more of these videos (and not just still images), specially since they know how suspicious this has made people.

As long as "they" can push majority of people around and people won't stand up for their rights, they will keep screwing us all over.

Originally posted by GenRadek
reply to post by arizonascott

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I'd have to ask you a few questions on that.

First off, what kind of missile has the wingspan of a 757?
Second, what kind of missile has landing gear?
Third, what kind of a missile has two jet engines?
Fourth, what kind of a missile has passenger seats and luggage and people on it?
Fifth, what kind of a missile has so much fuel so as to create such a massive fuel fireball and smoke?

Looking over all the stuff released by the gov on the pentagon. Something is missing that kind of puts a little hole in your whole argument.

What is missing you might ask?
any evidence of...
A wingspan of a 757
Landing gear
two 757 jet engines
passenger seats, luggage, and people.

5th-what kind of missle creats and explosion? Seriously? Do you know what missles usually do?

reply to post by GenRadek

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Yeah...I am not sure where some of the people on this board get their delusions. The Pentagon is FAR from the most secure, most fortified building in the world. If anything, prior to 9/11 it was one of the LEAST fortified buildings in the US military. That was one reason they were busy trying to remodel it...add steel supports, kelvar blankets, blast proof windows etc....

The Pentagon relied more on the HUMANS in its security force for defense rather than cameras, fortifications etc....

reply to post by GenRadek

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First off, what kind of missile has the wingspan of a 757?
Second, what kind of missile has landing gear?
Third, what kind of a missile has two jet engines?
Fourth, what kind of a missile has passenger seats and luggage and people on it?
Fifth, what kind of a missile has so much fuel so as to create such a massive fuel fireball and smoke?

What gives you the idea there was anything at the site that indicates a 757 wingspan

Landing gear - planted or an attack drone has landing gear

Where do you see two engines from a 757 - pfffffffft

Where do you see any luggage, seats or body parts?

A missle would create the fireball itself so no fuel needed, but what fuel was left it helped in the dramaitics.

Here is one for you, and think about this: A 6' 4" terror suspect who had a brother who was in the energy business with George W. Bush was in a cave (on dialysis I might add) and so-called Saudi terrorists that were on military record and seen training at military bases as well as partying on casino houseboats owned by Washington connections: Where did they get the info to hit the exact section of the Pentagon that has been recently upgraded and fortified for just such an attack?

And why was the family of that terrorist "Osama bin Laden" having breakfast on that 9/11 morning with George Bush Sr. flown out of the country while every flight in the U.S. was grounded without being water boarded or even questioned?

The holes are there, no matter what you try to do, they just keep getting bigger!

Why was a relative of George W. Bush in charge of World Trade Center Security just a short time before 9/11?

Why did they pull bomb sniffing dogs out of the buildings just a few weeks before 9/11 as strange construction was going on in closed off floor levels?

Don't ask questions, it just wakes more people up when we have to answer!

[edit on 19-11-2008 by arizonascott]

Originally posted by angel of lightangelo

Originally posted by GenRadek
reply to post by arizonascott

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I'd have to ask you a few questions on that.

First off, what kind of missile has the wingspan of a 757?
Second, what kind of missile has landing gear?
Third, what kind of a missile has two jet engines?
Fourth, what kind of a missile has passenger seats and luggage and people on it?
Fifth, what kind of a missile has so much fuel so as to create such a massive fuel fireball and smoke?

Looking over all the stuff released by the gov on the pentagon. Something is missing that kind of puts a little hole in your whole argument.

What is missing you might ask?
any evidence of...
A wingspan of a 757
Landing gear
two 757 jet engines
passenger seats, luggage, and people.

5th-what kind of missle creats and explosion? Seriously? Do you know what missles usually do?

Sure, I know what missiles usually do, but heres a hint, they do NOT leave a plane shaped hole in their targets, nor do they spew pieces of wreckage with American Airlines markings on them.

reply to post by Swampfox46_1999

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The only one delusional - is you my friend

Go ahead and try to keep the lid on as it gushes with more lies and fabrication.

Mod Edit: Civility and Decorum are Required


[edit on 20-11-2008 by Gemwolf]

reply to post by angel of lightangelo

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Plenty of aircraft debris. Pictures, video, eyewitness accounts. All points to a 757 impact. Not to mention the overwhelming smell of jet fuel in the building and all around. Sounds like a plane crash site to me than a missile strike.
(Unless the 757 was used as a missile by the hijackers)

www.rense.com...
www.rcfp.org...
www.pentagonresearch.com...

Once again I ask, what kind of missile in the US inventory has landing gear, jet engines, a 757's wingspan, and an AA paint job and aluminum skin?

reply to post by arizonascott

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Where did they get the info to hit the exact section of the Pentagon that has been recently upgraded and fortified for just such an attack?

Well first, the fact that the Pentagon was being upgraded was not a secret. Second, it was more of a "lucky" break for us that it did hit there.

And why was the family of that terrorist "Osama bin Laden" that having breakfast that 9/11 morning with George Herbert Walker Bush flown out of the country while every flight in the U.S. was grounded?

One member of the Bin Laden family was at a shareholder's meeting for the Carlyle Group that day, in addition to George HW Bush (of course, there were over 100 people ALSO there). THEN, as has been shown time and again on ATS, the Bin Laden family was allowed to leave the US, on Sept, 20, 2001, AFTER flights had resumed in our country.

Why was a relative of George W. Bush in charge of World Trade Center Security just a short time before 9/11?

BZZZT wrong answer again. John O'Neill was in charge of WTC security, along with the PA Police. You are thinking of Marvin Bush, who at one time was on the board of directors for Securacom, a company that HAD installed some security systems in the complex. However, Marvin left Securacom in June of 2000, before his brother was even the GOP nominee for President.

Why did they pull bomb sniffing dogs out of the buildings just a few weeks before 9/11 as strange construction was going on in closed off floor levels?

Another wrong answer, your batting average...sucks. The Port Authority Police Department's K-9 department still had bomb sniffing dogs at the WTC on 9/11/2001. You are thinking about the EXTRA dogs that had been brought into the complex for a period of time and then were returned to their normal duties.

reply to post by spender

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Why when our special Illuminati Ops who did this are connected with MI6 who did both the Spain bombings and the London train bombings?

If it is that far reaching who is going to oppose?

You have the politicians who will not force this issue or ask critical questions demanding a new investigation because it would mean the end of their political careers.

Same thing with the media, they like their paychecks. Kieth Olberman spoke his feelings about the McCain Republican Convention that brought up 9/11 and the lives lost due to terror and said how disgusting it was for a campaign to use terror to scare people into voting for McCain, he was pulled from any further campaign coverage.

And the lower people can't even get close to Washington to force the issue - they have lawyers on top of lawyers as well as new law enforcement directives to keep people away.

Free speach zones - yeah!

So who is going to challenge?

There have been top level retired security officers from other Nations that have come out and said this was an inside job!

My God, what more do you so called "Americans" need?


[edit on 19-11-2008 by arizonascott]

reply to post by arizonascott

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For one thing:
Missiles are high explosive. The fireball at the Pentagon and the jet fuel smell was created by exploding and burning jet fuel from a large 757. In fact, You can see how a passenger jet looks like when it crashes and explodes here:

www.youtube.com...

Mind you this plane only hits trees, yet the fireball and smoke are nearly the same.

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