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Al-Qaida No. 2 insults Obama in new audio message


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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 11:09 AM by ColoradoJens


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And all this time I thought Obama was a Muslim terrorist himself? Jeeze, with friends like those...



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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 11:11 AM by robertnesta


i have a question for anyone, do you think this anti-obama al-qaida link will be used to discredit us normal americans that dislike obama

i can just see someone on fox/cnn/nbc/msnbc saying they dont like obama and list off problems and the MSM will just be able to compare your "crazy" ideas to the "crazy" ideas of al-qaida

what im saying is, maybe this video was made by the cia, and the goal was to make the comparison that those who are against obama are al-qaida or terrorist like people who are against the government and use this as another tool to gather support behind our new commander in chief

whatever let me hear what you think



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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 11:17 AM by mybigunit


Originally posted by sos37

Nah, I hear what you're saying and I agree with it. Al Qaida's goal is the destruction of America. They hate Democracy, they hate free markets, they basically hate anyone and anything that isn't Islam. I understand they would be making statements at Palin right now most likely aimed at her gender if McCain/Palin had won. I'm just all about taking potshots at the Obamatrons today in light of the new Zogby poll. It makes the recent GOP defeat in the election that much sweeter to know that while Obama won the election, he won because the majority of his supporters didn't know what the hell he actually stood for.


With all due respect I dont think you do understand what Im saying. I agree that there is a small group of thugs and that is all they are is thugs that do hate a liberal European and American society in their eyes. But a majority of the people we fight just dont want us on their lands. They dont like our bases in Saudi Arabia, Yemen, UAE, Egypt, and so on and so forth. They dont want us there. We would do ourselves a great justice by just getting the hell out of there and letting them all ride around on camels again. If they dont like how things are going they can blame their own governments instead of us. But as long as we are there we are going to create more and more of these haters against us. The vast majority dont hate us for our freedoms they immigrate in droves here because of our freedoms.


What Im saying is the two party crime family has full intentions on staying. Why? Because there is a lot of money to be made in the business of war and in the business of energy. On top of that the strong Israeli and Saudi Arabian lobby who BOTH dont like Iran we will be going to war with Iran soon. I just hope they give me a few years to prepare before Obama takes us there. We live in a nation of sheep period. As long as the powers keep us fighting then they can continue with their agenda and that agenda is simple. World Conquest.



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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 11:17 AM by HunkaHunka


Originally posted by sos37

Nah, I hear what you're saying and I agree with it. Al Qaida's goal is the destruction of America. They hate Democracy, they hate free markets, they basically hate anyone and anything that isn't Islam. I understand they would be making statements at Palin right now most likely aimed at her gender if McCain/Palin had won. I'm just all about taking potshots at the Obamatrons today in light of the new Zogby poll. It makes the recent GOP defeat in the election that much sweeter to know that while Obama won the election, he won because the majority of his supporters didn't know what the hell he actually stood for.



Thanks for being honest.

Problem is, that there is a huge difference between what he symbolizes and what his policies might be.

That's the beauty of democracy, we get to choose what matters most to us. it really doesn't matter why anyone voted for Obama, what matters is that we won! :-)




As you mentioned, earlier, Al-Qaidia hate democracy... but why? Because it isn't based on any reasoning.. and they fear that.

Go irrational democracy!!!!

[edit on 19-11-2008 by HunkaHunka]



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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 11:20 AM by HunkaHunka


Originally posted by robertnesta
i have a question for anyone, do you think this anti-obama al-qaida link will be used to discredit us normal americans that dislike obama






Do you mean the same way the Bush Administration said that Terrorists wanted Demorats to win?


heh...



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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 11:23 AM by mybigunit


Originally posted by HunkaHunka


Thanks for being honest.

Problem is, that there is a huge difference between what he symbolizes and what his policies might be.

That's the beauty of democracy, we get to choose what matters most to us. it really doesn't matter why anyone voted for Obama, what matters is that we won! :-)




As you mentioned, earlier, Al-Qaidia hate democracy... but why? Because it isn't based on any reasoning.. and they fear that.

Go irrational democracy!!!!

[edit on 19-11-2008 by HunkaHunka]



What have we won? Will Obama repeal the patriot act? Will he get rid of all the dictoral executive orders issued by Bush? Will he pull us out of Iraq? Will he get rid of the FED the root to our financial issues? Will he get rid of the illegal 16th amendment? No he wont do any of this. If he tries he will be killed by the powers. The powers want war so we will have it. They want involuntary serfdom so they will get it and it wouldnt make a difference if McCain or Obama was elected.



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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 11:35 AM by HunkaHunka


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I don't know about you, but I won a defeat over FUD.


This election, to me, was a defeat of those who would pander to the stupid and fear based via character assisnation.


Having grown up in rural areas, I can tell you that both fear and stupidity run deep there. And I'm glad to see that it was defeated.


So, that's all that mattered to this voter.



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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 11:48 AM by Leo Strauss


Originally posted by ColoradoJens
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And all this time I thought Obama was a Muslim terrorist himself? Jeeze, with friends like those...


Dude that was funny! Thank you!

Did they use the formal "House Negro" ??

That doesn't seem nearly offensive enough for Al Queda!



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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 12:14 PM by ConservativeJack


Ron Paul was argue they don't hate us because we're free. They hate us because we build military bases in their Holy Land and we bomb them.

I would say he is 75 percent right.

I think their is some aspect of Islamic extremism which wishes to control the world.

I think they are sadly mistaking because we have a few hundred years on them. Which is why we should be targeting their leaders and let the sheep live. The sheep are poor, ignorant, and have no voice but that given to them by the barrel of a gun.

So, these Muslim countries are in their adolescent stages. I expect drama for a while.



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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 12:25 PM by ColoradoJens


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I believe they did use the formal. The Onion is bursting with self-written stories...here are a few just for levity sake.

Eighty Percent Of Al-Qaeda No. 2s Now Dead
February 1, 2006 | Issue 42•05

March 14, 2001
WASHINGTON, DC—The Pentagon announced Monday that 80 percent of Osama bin Laden's seconds-in-command have been eliminated. "Nearly 1,600 al-Qaeda leaders ranked number two have been wiped out," Lt. Col. Mark Allison said. "That leaves only 400 of Osama bin Laden's right-hand men in the organization." Following the apparent failure to kill bin Laden's No. 2 man Ayman al-Zawahri in a missile strike on a Pakistani border town on Jan. 13, American forces intensified the search for al-Qaeda second-in-command Ahmed Al-Zahnami, or, failing that, No. 2 man Amman al-Zaharani, or No. 2 man Ahmed al-Zafarani.


or

Local Sheriff Suspects Al-Qaeda Or Teens
August 18, 2004 | Issue 40•33
BARABOO, WI—Sauk County Sheriff Virgil "Butch" Steinhorst announced Tuesday that he believes a recent rash of Baraboo-area crimes was perpetrated by the al-Qaeda terrorist network or teenagers.

"In this day and age, it's important for law-enforcement officials to consider global threats as well as local ones," Steinhorst said. "We could be dealing with an al-Qaeda sleeper cell attempting to collect information that they could use to plan a terrorist strike or some of those goth kids who knocked over that mailbox. Neither group has any respect for the law."


Al-Qaeda's No. 114 Killed On Office Depot Run
August 31, 2006 | Issue 42•35
February 19, 2003

BALTIMORE—The FBI has announced that Jalal Dawoud, a suspected al-Qaeda lieutenant, was killed in a single-car accident while en route to procure miscellaneous office supplies Tuesday. "The DHS is proud to announce that this man, ranked No. 114 in al-Qaeda's terrorist organization, was fetching some toner and a box of gel pens, but was struck and killed before he could carry out his orders," said FBI Agent Lloyd Hopkinsen, who led a team of 36 investigators to the accident scene. "This is an important victory in the war against terror." The driver who struck Dawoud, livery cab driver and al-Qaeda's suspected No. 54 man Stefan Abu Ali, was treated for minor injuries and released from a Baltimore hospital.


Bush To London Bombers: 'Bring It On'
July 27, 2005 | Issue 41•30
August 10, 2005

WASHINGTON, DC—President Bush officially responded to the latest round of London transit bombings Monday, challenging terrorists to "do their worst." Said Bush, in a televised statement from the Oval Office: "The proud and resilient people of London can take anything the forces of evil and cowardice can throw at them. They will never live in fear of you. Bring it on." Prime Minister Tony Blair thanked Bush for his comments, inviting him to visit London and ride the Underground in a show of solidarity


Police Search Of Backpack Yields Explosive Bestseller
August 10, 2005 | Issue 41•32
November 16, 2007
NEW YORK—Officers from the New York City Police Department evacuated the Union Square subway station and suspended all train service Monday after a random search of a passenger's backpack revealed an explosive bestseller.


www.theonion.com...

ColoradoJens



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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 12:30 PM by grover


I hate bigots.

Of course what do you expect from the likes of Ayman al-Zawahri and his ilk.

The funny thing about this is his citing of Malcolm X since Malcolm X renounced the bigotry of the Nation of Islam after going on Hajj to Mecca and seeing how diverse true Islam was. And of course he was killed for it as well.

Ayman al-Zawahri and the other leaders of radical Islam do their faith no favors with their ignorance and violence... its hard to believe the man was a Doctor but then so was Joseph Mengle and I believe Pol Pot.



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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 01:09 PM by Velvet Death


The terrorist can be as upset as they want about our presence in the middle east or anywhere else. I imagine they are right about BHO in that he will stay in the middle east.

For me it boils down to when I turn on the light switch I expect light, when I drive my car I expect gas to be available, when I go to the store I expect goods on the shelf and I expect jobs to be available with money in the bank.

I expect my government to do what ever is necessary so that I, my kids and my grand kids have a bright, bountiful future in America. Take care of America first and then we can share our excess bounty with others.

The citizen of the world crap, kumbaya with people who want to see America fall isn't for me. America first every time. I don't consider it selfish at all.



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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 06:01 PM by Question


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wait, wait, wait, WAIT! Did we not kill this guy already? I could've sworn that we had this guy killed because I remember it actually making it into the news... or is this the guy that was sentenced to life???? If he's the one that we killed, then who's the d*ck sorceror that keeps bringing these idiots back to life? If he's the one that we sentenced to life, then why are we even concerned what he says?



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reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 02:19 AM by sonyasrectum


I don't need no one to tell me about hell. I look at myself, and I believe.

Is that guy obama here?




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reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 02:43 AM by neformore


The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.



Originally posted by robertnesta
i have a question for anyone, do you think this anti-obama al-qaida link will be used to discredit us normal americans that dislike obama

i can just see someone on fox/cnn/nbc/msnbc saying they dont like obama and list off problems and the MSM will just be able to compare your "crazy" ideas to the "crazy" ideas of al-qaida



You mean in the same manner as Fox News has done, ever since 9/11, condeming anyone who didn't tow the Neocon Republican (as opposed to just Republican, because there is a difference) party line as "cranks", "morons", "lunatics" and "terrorist sympathisers" ?

Entirely possible, because it seems that - from a distance - that US politics is slowly losing its mind, becoming more polarised and bogged down in smear tactics.



As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



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reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 09:47 AM by sos37


Originally posted by neformore


Originally posted by robertnesta
i have a question for anyone, do you think this anti-obama al-qaida link will be used to discredit us normal americans that dislike obama

i can just see someone on fox/cnn/nbc/msnbc saying they dont like obama and list off problems and the MSM will just be able to compare your "crazy" ideas to the "crazy" ideas of al-qaida



You mean in the same manner as Fox News has done, ever since 9/11, condeming anyone who didn't tow the Neocon Republican (as opposed to just Republican, because there is a difference) party line as "cranks", "morons", "lunatics" and "terrorist sympathisers" ?

Entirely possible, because it seems that - from a distance - that US politics is slowly losing its mind, becoming more polarised and bogged down in smear tactics.




Let's not forget the same manner that the Democratic party did with anyone who disagreed with Obama during the campaign - they must all be racists. Even those who disagreed with Obama's policies. Racists.



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reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 10:34 AM by Skydancer


I'm sick and tired of the bad attempts to spin the fear via wag the dog tactics.
If you want to believe that Ayman al-Zawahiri has read anything by Malcom X
I've got a diamond mine for sale.



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reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 10:39 AM by HunkaHunka


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SOS, you evidently can't read.


Nefermore was talking about Dems being labeled terrorists for not cowtowing to the Neo-Con agenda. Which is tantamount to calling Dems traitors and enemies of the state.

That's a far cry from the false allegations that Obama supporters somehow think republicans are racist.

Even if that were true, it's still worlds apart.

Anway nice attempt to get this thread off topic which is TERRORISTS TROLLS POLITICALLY BAIT BHO.

Can we get back to the topic please? I'm sure there is another thread where you can spew your anti-obama trolling.



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reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 12:24 PM by LiquidMirage


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Zawahri insults obama...

maybe these al-qaida guys aren't so bad after all.



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reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 02:18 PM by HunkaHunka


Originally posted by LiquidMirage
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Zawahri insults obama...

maybe these al-qaida guys aren't so bad after all.





Really? The miscreants who flew airplanes into the Twin Towers, and the Pentagon, and attempted to hijack flight 93 aren't so bad after all?

You are beyond contempt with that suggestion.



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