Various sources, whether reliable or not, including but not limited to Alex Collier, suggest that the behind the scenes operatives of the hidden government will be staging a fake Alien attack to help usher in their NWO. Such a situation may, or may not, coincide with the biological terrorist attack scheduled for this coming January or February.

Does anyone here know more specific information regarding said plans to scare the population with a Technicolor full-blown 3D phony martian attack similar to the Pentagon tested War of the Worlds scenario modernized with secret technology?

And HOW can we, the folks in the know at ATS, succeed in debunking this when and if it occurs?

GetSmart

It won't be an alien attack, but rather more and more sightings that would possibly lead to "so called contact" with world leaders, learning of secret knowledge to pass on to our fellow man, once people get caught up in a new idea the ball will roll and people will become much easier to control.

How easy would it be to tell a community if they want to meet the aliens in person, all they have to do is get on one of those handy fema trains or busses and just wait in the blue or red line depending if you are going on a flight or just shaking hands.

They don't call people sheeple for nothing.

Ok,let's play. IF they were going to do something like that,they'd have to blow a few things up. Then when they come round and say "come with us,it's for your own saftey" everyone goes with them withoiut question. So,we won't be able to debunk it.Because it would have gone too far. Only thing you'll be able to do is move away from any army vehichles and personel. Go live in a tunnel somewhere and start a new life as a hobbit.

Hmmm 3D holographic UFO's

Won't do much good if a bird flies through it. Or a plane. Or a cloud....


Holographic invasion? Absurd!

If the gov't truly had UFO technology since the 30s or 40s and they figured how to reengineer these craft, then who is to say the gov't might fake a UFO invasion by using human-made UFOs. With astounding alien technology, just a handful could wreck havoc on the global scale. They don't even have to land.

I like this thread. Starred. Good question.

Even if most people knew these were holograms, many are sure to freak out. The real questions are:

Can our govt. really pull it off?

Would benevolent E.T. forces prevent this from happening in the 1st place?

What happens afterward?


In my mind, the only way to prevent it would be it have an insider come forward (someone within the invasion plot) and thwart the plan through disclosure or other means.

Hologram or not, I'm sure most people wouldn't sit around to take a look at it.
And even if a bird were to fly through it, the government could say they have technology that allows things to fly through them.
Fire a missile at it and it doesn't blow up.. it goes straight through, now that's intimidating!
Besides, you or I might know it's a hologram, but a large group of sheeple won't, like their going to listen while their busy looting and being a pack of animals.

They'll run to the government before they take the advice of some John Smith.
The government will win no matter what, you can tell a few people, family, friends. The majority of people in this world will believe it's a hostile alien craft.

Originally posted by JH80
It is an interesting theory, but do you really think that the government could pull off a stunt like that? There have been so many recent cases which highlight the government's incompetenacy, but still some people believe they are all-seeing and all-knowing...

Ah, but that's done deliberately to make people think they're incompetent...

No, you're quite right. It's absurd on a hundred different levels to think that so many people in so many countries have been acting in precise co-ordination over a period of decades, involving the dissolution and formation of entire countries, the replacement of presidents and prime-ministers, without a single slip-up for ... well, what? The most ludicrously convoluted and improbable plan in the history of the universe.

Coups happen with guns and tanks, not holograms.

Originally posted by Getsmart
Various sources, whether reliable or not, including but not limited to Alex Collier, suggest that the behind the scenes operatives of the hidden government will be staging a fake Alien attack to help usher in their NWO. Such a situation may, or may not, coincide with the biological terrorist attack scheduled for this coming January or February.

Does anyone here know more specific information regarding said plans to scare the population with a Technicolor full-blown 3D phony martian attack similar to the Pentagon tested War of the Worlds scenario modernized with secret technology?

And HOW can we, the folks in the know at ATS, succeed in debunking this when and if it occurs?

GetSmart

Let me put it this way: if a government ever attempted something that risky, then you could bet that it'd be virtually impossible, if not impossible to debunk initially. I think the idea of something like that happening is ridiculous, but I don't think it'd be all that hard to pull off. Use a hologram, or a man-made aircraft that looks like a UFO, then blow some things up using demolitions or missiles, and then finally manipulate the media into reporting it as an ET attack.

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i read a similar thread somewhere in this forum.my thoughts are that something that vast is hard to be carried out without any flaws.but lets say 9-11 was indeed staged then i think they are able to pull something like this.we have to ask ourselves.why aliens with vast technology would like to wage war to us primitives.and if they did,they wouldnt storm the place with myriads of ufos.one two motherships provided these kind of ships exist would suffice.

Originally posted by IMSAM
i read a similar thread somewhere in this forum.my thoughts are that something that vast is hard to be carried out without any flaws.but lets say 9-11 was indeed staged then i think they are able to pull something like this.we have to ask ourselves.why aliens with vast technology would like to wage war to us primitives.and if they did,they wouldnt storm the place with myriads of ufos.one two motherships provided these kind of ships exist would suffice.

I don't know what to think in regards to 9/11, but maybe the government knew the twin towers were going to be attacked, but decided to do nothing. Some believe that's what happened with Pearl Harbor.

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Explanation: Its less a case of debunking it and more a case of surviving it!

Even if long afterwards it could be shown to be "fake" what good would that do us?

Personal Disclosure: If it is going to be a Blue Beaming that we get I'm hoping for a pantomime..... ..... "Look out! ET's behind you!"..."Oh No ET isn't"..."Oh Yes ET is!"...

P.S. As it will be sponsored by satellite TV there's guaranteed to be ads!

Originally posted by Getsmart
Various sources, whether reliable or not, including but not limited to Alex Collier, suggest that the behind the scenes operatives of the hidden government will be staging a fake Alien attack to help usher in their NWO. Such a situation may, or may not, coincide with the biological terrorist attack scheduled for this coming January or February.

Does anyone here know more specific information regarding said plans to scare the population with a Technicolor full-blown 3D phony martian attack similar to the Pentagon tested War of the Worlds scenario modernized with secret technology?

And HOW can we, the folks in the know at ATS, succeed in debunking this when and if it occurs?

GetSmart

With todays rapid technological progress i assume they would use a combination of holograms from space, robots and drones. That would make a solid impression on people having any doubt its the real deal.

The Earth's atmosphere consists, from the ground up, of the troposphere (which includes the planetary boundary layer or peplosphere as lowest layer), stratosphere, mesosphere, thermosphere (which contains the ionosphere and exosphere) and also the magnetosphere. Each of the layers has a different lapse rate, defining the rate of change in temperature with height.

(Wikipedia, Atmosphere#Composition)

I wonder in what atmospheric layer the holograms would be displayed and what kind of technology capable of making it look real. I cant remember when i heard about Project Bluebeam first but it must have been many years ago. Much more advanced ideas today i am sure. Terrorism is the last stage before a faked alien invasion (Werner von Braun, NASA). Ok.

Originally posted by Getsmart

Such a situation may, or may not, coincide with the biological terrorist attack scheduled for this coming January or February.

Plans were made a very long time ago, to force humanity into an accellerating spiral of vast experience from all polarities that is planned to culminate in the coming years to coencide with the availability and precense of a highly charged energy field that our "portion" of the galaxy is passing through right now.

Correctly utilized this energy can be used for all sorts of neat stuff in the human body. Since our brains already are tuned into 4 dimensions we can tap into this field directly och channel it into whatever we wish.

2 powers "strive" for dominance in the universe as You know it. The positive polarity and the negative polarity. They themselfes probably doesn't even know that they can never meet in 3D and they can also never get complete dominance since a completely polarized cosmos in the current tiomeframe would cause problems on the higher planes.
All the can really do is to strive for dominance ón a 3-dimensional playing field that looks much like the "yin & yang"-symbol when you observe it from a 5-dimensional perspective.

Sure, the "plate" can always be completely grey. That's the optimal configuration to allow for fast and quick evolution. But if there are to be emotions involved this configuration and following evolution would probably become the most violent one in all publicly unknown human history.

So, instead we get the "yin&yang"-configuration.

Anyway, the plans were made several thousands of years ago and this whole 3-dimensional existence of yours can actually be described as one big game.

There is a choice thouh. Every living being has been given full control over their destiny in which they can choose wether to belive in what they are told or they can seek information elsewere. You don't have to play the game if you don't want to. There are 6 billion ways of living a life. Plenty to choose from if one doesn't want to invent a new one.

Does anyone here know more specific information regarding said plans to scare the population with a Technicolor full-blown 3D phony martian attack similar to the Pentagon tested War of the Worlds scenario modernized with secret technology?

There are 2 projected scenarios in this coming "change". There are also 2 parts of the plan coming together in this and that's what the "spiral" is all about.

The thought is this : Now that we've separated humanity so gravely so that she have even forgotten her own divine heritage and also forgotten that what she does to other particles she's also doing to herself (the outside world reflects your inner world, not the other way around. Not many people appreciate the true potential of that insight), a big threat is being planned to be introduced.

When this big threat is being introduced the thought is to unite humanity against a common cause making us forget all our differences and come together in some form of global unification. What happens next is up to the participants. It all comes down to what perspective to use when observing a situation. Those who want to live in hell will be tgiven the opportunity while those who expect "paradise" will get the option to take themselfs there.

And HOW can we, the folks in the know at ATS, succeed in debunking this when and if it occurs?[/quot]

As long as people gets impressed by visual and audio stimuli there's nothing we can do. The lightshow will be HUGE.
I know what tech is going to be used so i'll just explain to everyone right there on the spot if it happens. + that you shouldn't watch the skies when it happens, watch where noone else does at the time. That's where all the "magic" happens.

I have studied and read on Project Blue Beam, and the technology is real, and they have had it for a long time now, and...it has been tested. I think when the real ET gets here, they will take over the TV and radio airwaves, and the NWO won't have a chance to try and fool us. I have read from many online sources that our American government has their own UFOs, and that any triangular UFO you see is theirs. Personal intuition will play for one here, and although many will be fooled, many more will not. Education is the key, tell everyone about Blue Beam, and let the chips fall where they may. And don't go running out the the first UFO you see to say Hi.