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Topic started on 18-11-2008 @ 08:01 PM by GamerGal
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ANCHORAGE, Alaska – Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens has lost his bid for a seventh term. The longest-serving Republican in the history of the Senate
trailed Anchorage Mayor Mark Begich by 3,724 votes after Tuesday's count. That's an insurmountable lead with only about 2,500 overseas ballots left
to be counted. news.yahoo.com...
And so it ends. Another senate election done and another Republican gone. I guess seven felonies will do that to you. I guess bridges to no where,
record pork barreling, and recieving bribes from oil companies tends to hurt your reelection bid.
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reply posted on 18-11-2008 @ 08:38 PM by RRconservative
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Great News!
Now if Failed Radio Talk Show Host, Al Franken, can steal Minnesota, and if Saxby Chambliss losses Georgia. We are one step closer to
Obama/Reid/Pelosi having no excuses to impose their will on the American people with no opposition from Republicans!
That means they get all the blame! And since this is Jimmy Carters 2nd Term...you know what comes next????? The next Ronald Reagan!!!!
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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 09:51 AM by GamerGal
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Steal? Bias much? How would he steal it? By getting the most votes? Second, the run off election is getting heated in Georgia. McCain, Clinton,
Obama, all going down to campaign for the candidates. We'll see what happens. But... If they don't get a fillibuster proof Congress it will be
gridlock. Although what I find funny is the GOP said fillibusters were Anti American and evil and support terrorism, when they held both Senate and
the House. Now its Anti American and evil and supports terrorism to block fillibusters... No bias here.
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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 06:04 PM by RRconservative
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Originally posted by GamerGal
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Steal? Bias much? How would he steal it? By getting the most votes?
By going to court to have the recount include disqualified ballots? How's that for stealing? They were disqualified for a reason.
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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 07:08 PM by GamerGal
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Yeah, much like in Florida for committing the crime of being black, or Jewish. Or some other form of Democrat.
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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 07:12 PM by jam321
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All I got to say is that corrupt politicians deserve to lose.
I hope many more are investigated to see how clean they really are.
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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 07:18 PM by RRconservative
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Originally posted by GamerGal
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Yeah, much like in Florida for committing the crime of being black, or Jewish. Or some other form of Democrat.
I had to quote you on this in case it is ever modified for some reason.
This is the funniest thing I have heard all day!
Other form of Democrat??? Like...uneducated? Like ex-cons???
Is being black or jewish really forms of Democrats. If it is....I'd really like to know what form Republicans take?
I always thought Republicans and Democrats were forms of ideaology not forms of race?
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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 07:21 PM by Sonya610
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I would be surprised if Saxby Chambliss lost in Georgia. It was a very tight race, and a heck of a lot of the Democratic voters showed up at the
poles specifically to support their homeboy Obama. Lots of new registered voters for that very reason, they voted Obama and then checked democrat down
the rest of the ballot regardless of the individual candidates.
Will they really show up to vote in a run-off? If Obama personally ran ads asking them too then maybe, but I have not seen any ads like that. I
don't think they are going to show.
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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 07:36 PM by GamerGal
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The majority of people not allowed in Florida in 2000 were black. And had committed no crime, except in the eyes of Republicans for being black.
Same in Minnesota. Types of Democrats are black, gay, Jewish, Muslim, Hispanic, Asian, Women, Middle Class whites, Lower Class Whites, and youth.
Republican voters are mostly rich white males, racists, bigots(Like the kind that strike a voter from the voting registration for being black) and
poor rednecks.
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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 07:40 PM by Johnmike
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Hey Gamergal, can we talk about how Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens lost his re-election bid instead of listening to your whining about the 2000 election?
Best wishes.
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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 07:55 PM by Sonya610
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Originally posted by GamerGal
The majority of people not allowed in Florida in 2000 were black. And had committed no crime, except in the eyes of Republicans for being black.
Same in Minnesota.
Gamegirl please post your reference for that. As in website that references legitimate newspaper articles or government statistics.
I suppose it is possible that they were not convicted felons, that they just wandered up to the polling places and were rejected because they were not
registered voters, or because they did not reside in that state...or because the polling staff decided to turn away black people. But really, let the
truth be known. Post the source.
This is your chance to educate the masses and reduce ignorance/prejudice.
[edit on 19-11-2008 by Sonya610]
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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 08:06 PM by GamerGal
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No, the names were struck by an "independent" group ran by the GOP. en.wikipedia.org... Secretary of State
Katherine Harris hired a firm to vet the rolls for felons, but that may have wrongly kept thousands, particularly blacks, from casting ballots.
archive.salon.com... www.washingtonpost.com... Amazingly
enough the majoirty of people removed had one thing in common, being black.
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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 08:22 PM by Sonya610
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Originally posted by GamerGalThe majority of people not allowed in Florida in 2000 were black. And had committed no crime, except in
the eyes of Republicans for being black. Same in Minnesota.
Thank you for responding with references.
However, you say “they committed no crime” except for being black. LOL. The poll staff did not mark the ballots as they came in and say “black
person”. The names were simply compared to a list of FELONS and other CRIMINALS and they matched. Some were in fact convicted felons that had
petitioned to have their voting rights reinstated, some were convicted criminals with misdeamor offenses, and some were completely innocent that
happened to have the exact same name as a convicted felon.
It was NOT about barring “black voters” but it just so happened most of the people that had criminal histories were black, or had names identical
to persons barred from voting due to criminal convictions.
From Wikipedia: In May 2000, DBT discovered that approximately 8,000 names were erroneously placed on the exclusion list, mostly those of former
Texas prisoners who were included on a DBT list that turned out never to have been convicted of more than a misdemeanor identified as felons.
From Salon.com: In the process, however, the list invariably targets a minority population in Florida, where 31 percent of all black men cannot
vote because of a ban on felons. In compiling a list by looking at felons from other states, Florida could, in the process, single out citizens
who committed felons in other states but, after serving their time or successfully petitioning the courts, had their voting rights returned to them.
According to Florida law, felons can vote once their voting rights have been reinstated.
Washington Post -- Kelvin King was turned away from the polls here in November when records showed that he was ineligible to vote as a convicted
felon. County election officials learned days later that King's civil rights had been restored eight months earlier.
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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 08:37 PM by Sonya610
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LOL..okay I did a bit more research. For instance you stated the MAJORITY of those that were removed from FL and MN were black. And I showed
paragraphs from your sources showing they were removed due to past criminal history, or identical name matches to felons.
Well it turns out 3.8% of the population of MN is black! Yet blacks made up the majority of votes removed due to criminal backgrounds or identical
names of ALL MN voters?
Better yet, blacks make up 11% of registered voters in FL, yet they make up 88% of those removed after the fact due to criminal backgrounds or because
their name matches that of a convicted felon!
Amazing how even when they are the minority, they always stand out in some regards.
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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 08:39 PM by GamerGal
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Because they're name matches... How many white people's whose named matched a felons but weren't that felon were scrubbed? None.
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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 08:45 PM by Sonya610
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Originally posted by GamerGal
Because they're name matches... How many white people's whose named matched a felons but weren't that felon were scrubbed? None.
I see after your posted references it is back to business as usual huh Gamergirl?
You forgetting you said their ballots were trashed "because they were black and not because of any crime?"
Yeah you forgot. Okay then.
Seriously we both know there is NO WAY you are reading the Washington Post or Salon.com. You are getting your info from an Afro-American site. Good
luck with that. Good luck with all of that, and you know exactly what I mean.
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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 08:48 PM by GamerGal
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I didn't know it was a crime to have the same name as a felon. I didn't know it was a crime to be a minority. I'm a woman, I'm a minority, how
long is my jail sentence?
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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 08:52 PM by Sonya610
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Originally posted by GamerGal
I didn't know it was a crime to have the same name as a felon. I didn't know it was a crime to be a minority. I'm a woman, I'm a minority, how
long is my jail sentence?
In fact the articles said (but you wouldn't know because you probably did not READ THEM) that some names were included, not that ANY VOTES were
discounted because the names matched.
But nevermind all that stuff. You had best focus on how long you will be in prison for being female. You worry on that.
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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 08:53 PM by GamerGal
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"or identical name matches to felons" YOU! So once again I didn't know it was a crime to have the same name as a felon. I guess all people named
Ted Stevens will no longer be allowed to vote.
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reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 11:10 PM by southern_Guardian
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Originally posted by GamerGal
ANCHORAGE, Alaska – Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens has lost his bid for a seventh term. The longest-serving Republican in the history of the Senate
trailed Anchorage Mayor Mark Begich by 3,724 votes after Tuesday's count. That's an insurmountable lead with only about 2,500 overseas ballots left
to be counted. news.yahoo.com...
And so it ends. Another senate election done and another Republican gone. I guess seven felonies will do that to you. I guess bridges to no where,
record pork barreling, and recieving bribes from oil companies tends to hurt your reelection bid.
Democrat or Republican zero tolerance towards those who abuse the laws they have been entrusted with...
Its a shame, ted stevens was like a father to the senators, both Democrat and Republican. The longest-serving U.S. Senator and it ends like this. In
my opinion there is only so long a politician can last without being tainted by corruption...
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