I feel ya worldisblind,I guess we're all headed for a showdown.
I think when the time comes you will surprised to discover who your allies are
keep your head up you aren't alone help will come from where you least expect it
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reply posted on 18-11-2008 @ 09:26 PM by hinky
This is just one of those opening post that ramble around and have several disjointed thoughts thrown together and then someone want to see the big
picture, while looking at random bits.
Okay, lets start with the Civilian Labor Inmate Program. Man, this even sounds scary. Official document based on a couple of reasons, first and foremost it is on a .mil server and it is in the proper format.
Source document
A civilian is anyone who is not in the military and it has inmate in the title. Let's read a little bit of the document and see what legal actions they can do or fall under.
Notice the mention of Federal Bureau of Prisons and the inmate must be under their control. I guess the public at large would have to be under arrest and then incarcerated with established FBOP before being utilized by the military for nefarious reasons; OR, this is a document that the military uses for guidance for contracting out federal inmates for work on military posts and bases that the current civilian workforce does in an effort to cut costs of operation.
A bold statement on my part, but why. Let's look at who is eligible for this program; again to the document in question.
Seems to me that there would be many people not eligible for this Civilian Inmate Program if used for mass arrests.
The standard Memorandum of Agreement is Appendix B. I'd read that for clarity of the type of work that is allowed for the inmates. The work is mostly labor intensive which is why there are competitive bids between federal employees and the private sector for work such as this. This is just a part of a much large drive by the US Government to shed employees and convert government jobs to private sector jobs with the Department of Defense.
Now onto the microwave generators. Yeah, they are and can produce a maximum temperature of 300 C in an area the size of 0.11 inches. It goes down in temperature as the diameter spreads out to the maximum beam of just under 6 inches. You know, they have much better stuff than this. This is just some industrial microwave array for small time usage. Not much to be concerned about here.
Sorry to hear about your water shortage. A friend of mine just started his life over by moving himself and daughter to Melbourne. He is absolutely in love with the place.
Now on to the credit crunch. This is much more to worry about than the other news you read about everything else. This is the story behind the story. The bailouts given by all the nations really don't meet, really don't come to close, to the amount of money needed to loosen the credit. Banks are sitting on the bailout funds because they have no faith of the system continuing. Credit is what drives everything. When you write a check, it is a credit agreement between you and the merchant, his bank and your bank. Even this simple transaction has had problems in some parts of the USA with bank closures and mergers. Letters of credit are used by companies to buy products for resale, some companies are finding it next to impossible for this. This causes and will cause shortages for different items in the coming weeks and months as local inventories are sold but not restocked.
There are more than several aspects of this and many threads already on this site. I just read the ones about bailouts and economy to see what interests you.
Okay, lets start with the Civilian Labor Inmate Program. Man, this even sounds scary. Official document based on a couple of reasons, first and foremost it is on a .mil server and it is in the proper format.
Source document
A civilian is anyone who is not in the military and it has inmate in the title. Let's read a little bit of the document and see what legal actions they can do or fall under.
2–1. Policy statement a. With a few exceptions, the Army’s Civilian Inmate Labor Program is currently limited to using inmates from facilities under the control of the Federal Bureau of Prisons (FBOP). Section 4125(a), Title 18, United States Code allows the Attorney General to make available to other Federal agencies the services of Federal inmates and defines the types of services inmates can perform. The FBOP provides civilian inmate labor free of charge to the Army. b. The Army is not interested in, nor can afford, any relationship with a corrections facility if that relationship stipulates payment for civilian inmate labor. Installation civilian inmate labor program operating costs must not exceed the cost avoidance generated from using inmate labor (see para 4–3 for a discussion of cost avoidance). c. Guidelines in this regulation for establishing installation civilian inmate labor programs pertain to negotiating with Federal corrections facilities only. Currently, there is no overarching law that addresses establishing State and/or local civilian inmate labor programs on Department of Defense (DOD) military facilities when these programs use inmates from off–post corrections facilities. d. However, there are 3 exceptions to using State or local civilian inmate labor from off–post corrections facilities— (1) Section 1065, PL 103–337, allows the Army to conduct a demonstration project. This demonstration project tests the feasibility of providing prerelease employment training to nonviolent offenders in a State corrections facility. The demonstration project is limited to 3 Army installations. The 3 Army installations participating in the demonstration project may use inmates from an off–post State corrections facility. (2) Army National Guard units leasing facilities from the Army or occupying State–owned land or facilities may use inmates from an off–post State and/or local corrections facility. (3) The prohibition against use of State and/or local civilian inmate labor from off–post corrections facilities does not apply to Civil Works projects where the Army has statutory authority to accept voluntary contributions in the form of services from State or local governments. If contributed, inmate services are combined with materials or services paid for with Federally appropriated funds; the use of civilian inmate labor must also comply with the provisions of EO 11755. The use of civilian inmate labor under these exceptions must still comply with the requirements of this regulation. e. Installation commanders must address, in memoranda of agreement with the corrections facilities, all items in the governing provisions (para 2–3 below). f. Section 4125(a), Title 18, United States Code and EO 11755 are incorporated into this regulation at appendix E.
Notice the mention of Federal Bureau of Prisons and the inmate must be under their control. I guess the public at large would have to be under arrest and then incarcerated with established FBOP before being utilized by the military for nefarious reasons; OR, this is a document that the military uses for guidance for contracting out federal inmates for work on military posts and bases that the current civilian workforce does in an effort to cut costs of operation.
A bold statement on my part, but why. Let's look at who is eligible for this program; again to the document in question.
e. Participants. Only inmates classified as minimum level security will participate in the Civilian Inmate Labor Program. Minimum level security inmates do not need constant guard. Corrections facilities will be responsible for ensuring that only minimum level security inmates participate in the inmate labor program and for selecting inmate participants. (1) Memoranda of agreement with the corrections facility will state that the installation commander will direct the removal of any inmate deemed undesirable or detrimental in any way to the mission, soldiers, family members, or civilian employees of the installation. (2) Under no circumstances will the following types of inmates be permitted in the Civilian Inmate Labor Program: (a) A person in whom there is a significant public interest as determined by the corrections facility superintendent in coordination with the installation commander. (b) A person who has been a significant management problem in their current corrections facility or in another facility. (c) A principal organized crime figure. (d) An inmate convicted of a sex offense or whose criminal history includes such conduct. (e) An inmate convicted of a violent crime or whose criminal history includes such conduct. (f) An inmate convicted of the sale or intent to distribute illegal drugs who held a leadership position in any drug conspiracy, or has been involved with drugs within the last 3 years while in prison. (g) An escape risk. (h) An inmate who poses a threat to the general public as determined by the corrections facility superintendent in coordination with the installation commander.(i) An inmate declared or found insane or mentally incompetent by a court, administrative proceeding, or physician,or under treatment for a mental disease or disorder. (j) An inmate convicted of arson. (k) A Federal inmate convicted while on active duty, presently serving a sentence for that conviction. f. Army personnel. Department of the Army personnel will not be involved with custodial aspects of inmate labor details.
Seems to me that there would be many people not eligible for this Civilian Inmate Program if used for mass arrests.
The standard Memorandum of Agreement is Appendix B. I'd read that for clarity of the type of work that is allowed for the inmates. The work is mostly labor intensive which is why there are competitive bids between federal employees and the private sector for work such as this. This is just a part of a much large drive by the US Government to shed employees and convert government jobs to private sector jobs with the Department of Defense.
Now onto the microwave generators. Yeah, they are and can produce a maximum temperature of 300 C in an area the size of 0.11 inches. It goes down in temperature as the diameter spreads out to the maximum beam of just under 6 inches. You know, they have much better stuff than this. This is just some industrial microwave array for small time usage. Not much to be concerned about here.
Sorry to hear about your water shortage. A friend of mine just started his life over by moving himself and daughter to Melbourne. He is absolutely in love with the place.
Now on to the credit crunch. This is much more to worry about than the other news you read about everything else. This is the story behind the story. The bailouts given by all the nations really don't meet, really don't come to close, to the amount of money needed to loosen the credit. Banks are sitting on the bailout funds because they have no faith of the system continuing. Credit is what drives everything. When you write a check, it is a credit agreement between you and the merchant, his bank and your bank. Even this simple transaction has had problems in some parts of the USA with bank closures and mergers. Letters of credit are used by companies to buy products for resale, some companies are finding it next to impossible for this. This causes and will cause shortages for different items in the coming weeks and months as local inventories are sold but not restocked.
There are more than several aspects of this and many threads already on this site. I just read the ones about bailouts and economy to see what interests you.
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