Embarrassed BNP admits its members list has been published online

Embarrassed BNP admits its members list has been published online

www.timesonline.co.uk
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[edit on 18-11-2008 by masonwatcher]


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The complete list of this British Nazi group includes members of the military, university lecturers, local authorities and more than the one police officer to which the article refers. Other online newspapers and antifascist groups have identified many more officials masquerading as normal citizens. Some of the activist community have also found links with such organisations as American Renaissance, an ultra-fascist that rans a website of the same name.

The tentacles of nazi organisations have gone underground and formed links with Redwatch and various US and European mainland racist groups.

www.timesonline.co.uk
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[edit on 19-11-2008 by 12m8keall2c]

I wouldn't call them British Nazis. There is unfortunately a left a middle and a right in most political systems. No matter whose sides private information is published, it is annoying that this happens in general. I don't think they're hiding as is portrait, as anybody likes their political leaning to keep to themselfs.

reply to post by Benarius

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HUH!!! Let me assure you they are nazi like. The may not wear uniforms and goose step down the high street but they are fascists. Just because a corporatised skin head wears a suit, it doesn't mean that he is any less a skin head.

How do you recognize a racist?

Only in their own country.

Question: How are the British National Party "nazis"? Or are you just throwing out the ol' "they want Britain to - OMG - STAY BRITISH? NAZI!" trick, you Commie? (Note: Since you seem a tad Leftist, screw any balanced analysis of your views - you're a Commie! in my books )



Again, how is American Renaissance "ultra-facist"? Is it because they do not want Europe to resemble Brazil in twenty years? Would prefer that Islam did not become the only religion in Europe? Are concerned with the rampant hypocrisy in the "anti-racist" movement, in which majority-white countries are the only ones told to "embrace diversity, multi-culturalism and mass immigration"?

But seriously, if persons are found to be BNP members they may be expelled from unions, not to mention possible expulsion from employment in the military or civil service:
Would you feel the same if the Scottish National Party, or Democratic Unionist Party members faced expulsion for merely supporting their party, and the member lists for said organisations were leaked? That members of the aforementioned could face violence at the hands of "anti-racists/facists" like you?

Ah, the intolerance of the tolerant!


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when their leader and people
compare others to cockroaches and other vermin
i would say they are racists

news.bbc.co.uk...

there are other sources and events

No offence meant but I can't help it. When a racist vomits a racist comment, you usually think your are clever and forth right; when in fact most racists are primarily recognised by their habits of invading other countries. Remember Hitler and Mussolini? What about the colonials powers colonising territories around the equator. Racists can't live without people of colour, if you can't invade you bring them over by the boat load to service your wives and do a spot of cotton picking in the spare time.

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I find it hard to criticise a country like Brazil that creates the most beautiful football in the world.

And what about the HOT mulatto women?

You are just jealous.

This is a little off of subject maybe, but I was at the restore the republic site and they had alot of info, long info. Anyhow one I read said, this was just released not long ago, all of Bush's money came from Grandpa Bush's Nazi affiliations before WWII.

Stay On Topic

Unsurprisingly, this thread has degenerated quickly.

For anyone who may not already know, please be aware that name-calling and other forms of personal commentary are off-topic and unwelcome on ATS.

Please post accordingly. Thanks.

Like Genghis Khan? Tarik ibn Ziyad? Shaka?

Also, this is ignoring the simple fact that racial "superiority" justified colonialism and the trans-Atlantic slave trade, and did not cause
those events.



Reductio Ad Hitlerum - Hitler was a vegetarian/dog owner - therefore vegetarianism/dog owning is EVIL!.



Right - the ol' white women can't keep their hands off black men/European, and majority-European countries would be nothing without non-whites - screw the fact that Iceland, Russia etc never had slaves! fallacies.

Keep it classy man.



Obama's rise forces Brazil to look at racial divide.

So:
If "racism" stems from a lack of ethnic diversity, why does "racism" still exist in a country that is ethnically diverse?

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You are equating the worst of the worst (Hitler, et al) with historical figures and it is a bit extreme. Why did you leave Alexander the Great when referring to Tarik ibn Ziyad? As for Shaka Zulu, his activities was strictly limited to controlling grazing land and competing local tribes and did not include the use of death camps and trans-Atlantic slavery.

I think you are drawing a line between white folks and the rest of the human race. Please understand that our technology is built on the shoulders of predecessor civilizations and whites have only been in domination for the past 500 years. Modern science is the direct progeny of Arabian hard sciences; everything from optics to medicine. Knowledge is accumulative and exponential. Isaac Newtons had access to Arabian journals and books and so did Galileo. In fact the colleges of Oxford built buildings aspired to look like the Arabian centres of learning along with adopting peer review concepts.




Amicule, deliciae, num is sum qui mentiar tibi? Nevertheless, that pointless statement quoted above is wholly yours and has nothing to do with me.




Regarding the first part of your comment, have you actually seen women around a silky skinned, lean, black man delivering some cool? Funny you used the words 'white women can't keep their hands off black men'.'

Regarding Russia and Iceland; Russia was known as an empire. Although it was extremely backwards until the Soviets turned up, it was very wealthy. Do you know why? Because it colonised the Caucasus and the Far East. It was a land Empire dude. It relied upon the dark people of the south and the Asiatics of the East.

Iceland is a poor country in the North Atlantic with an umbilical cord to Norway and Denmark; what of it?




A yank talking about class?! Nah, just joking. What is so un-classy about football? I don't get it. I consider myself cultured yet I am puzzled about your snobby comment regarding football. How can that be?

Finally, I don't know what is your problem with Brazil. Might I suggest you completely ignore that country instead of obsessing about it?

[edit on 19-11-2008 by masonwatcher]

can the OP change the headline to that of the actual article please - adding the word `nazi` wasn`t in any of the links provided

As stated in the other ATS thread on this subject,www.abovetopsecret.com...' (most confusing), the BNP are not Nazi's.

Yes, there are racists within the BNP but to compare them to Nazi's is ridiculous.

And again, most skinheads nowadays are true to Skinhead origins and are anti-racist or are apolitical.

en.wikipedia.org...

A little bit of research can easily enable people to see through the lies which MSM offersup to help feed peoples fears.


Edit to add:
Please read with an open mind and decide yourself if these people are 'Nazi's':
bnp.org.uk...

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reply to post by Freeborn

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I think you are confusing Ska skinheads with neonazi skinheads. I am not talking about peace loving Ska types but likes of Combat 18.

You know the National Front and old school BNP are considered freaks and unelectable and that is why Nick Griffin is trying to bring respectability with plausible arguments to his movement.

If you ask me, I'll take a hard working Asian Ugandan immigrant over a beer swilling, illiterate and criminal Englishman. My GP, his wife and his daughter are all physicians in the same practice. These people are the salt of the earth and have dedicated their lives to the well being of my community.

The BNP are not Nazis.

They are just idiots who follow other idiots including one who produced and directed " Marxist gay cinema". Richard Barnbrook was his name.

www.independent.co.uk...

Defintely BNP through and through despite homosexuality being a sordid practice.

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Baby, sweetheart, would I lie to you? ermmmmmm...

To make this not a one-liner. How come in the UK the BBC are allowed to broadcast BBC 1Xtra - a radio channel for black music only? I believe if I were to start a white music only channel I would be declared a racist and the channel would never get permission to air.

Just a thought.

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Radicitus, comes! Operor vos narro latin meus amicus. This is what I like about ATS. Lots of smart people lurk here.

As you for your thought. The radio channel plays music from black pop traditions. It is of a type only and white folks are not banned from listening to it. In fact some of the music may also be made by white artists but it is of the black culture.

Normally music by musicians who happen to be white are exclusively played on several other channels . These channels are not called white although they only play white music. You don't find anyone griping because it is the convention and the baseline from which other tastes are defined.